So says Pat Murphy, Democrat state representative from Iowa.  He espoused this brilliance on Iowa Public Radio.

Read this in The Daily Caller per link from Drudge Report today.  Sorry, my daughter is not here to post the link for me!

This guy proudly calls himself "the liberal's liberal."  That should tell you something.  He's part of a group that is trying to draft Elizabeth Warren to run.

I think he even gave an analogy to the Brit that supposedly beheaded Mr. Foley.  They are nuts, and SOME people agree with them.

DaisyJane     

Quote from: DaisyJane on August 24, 2014, 03:06:31 PM
So says Pat Murphy, Democrat state representative from Iowa.  He espoused this brilliance on Iowa Public Radio.

Read this in The Daily Caller per link from Drudge Report today.  Sorry, my daughter is not here to post the link for me!

This guy proudly calls himself "the liberal's liberal."  That should tell you something.  He's part of a group that is trying to draft Elizabeth Warren to run.

I think he even gave an analogy to the Brit that supposedly beheaded Mr. Foley.  They are nuts, and SOME people agree with them.

DaisyJane     

I think THIS is what you're referring to.

Quote from: TboneAgain on August 24, 2014, 04:48:29 PM
I think THIS is what you're referring to.

Yes, it is.  Many thanks!

DaisyJane     

Amnesty isn't necessary, nor would it even work on its own. Just as it didn't work in '86.

QuoteMurphy said he supports the immigration reform bill that passed in the Senate last year, which creates a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants

I can't even call that bill a "good start", it fails to address the cause, while making certain symptoms worse.

Quote from: DaisyJane on August 24, 2014, 03:06:31 PM
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Quote from: Alaska Slim on August 24, 2014, 05:25:53 PM
Amnesty isn't necessary, nor would it even work on its own. Just as it didn't work in '86.

I can't even call that bill a "good start", it fails to address the cause, while making certain symptoms worse.
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Whenever I hear those few words, "a pathway to citizenship", I want to smack whoever started  them the first time to explain away the simple give-away of the safeguards in place to insure that America is kept a safe place to work and raise families.  All these liberals are doing is endangering law-abiding citizens and their families.  But, wait.....lest I forget that this is the age when black is white, wrong is right, and there is no right or wrong answer.   

Quote from: keyboarder on August 24, 2014, 05:42:22 PM
Whenever I hear those few words, "a pathway to citizenship", I want to smack whoever started  them the first time to explain away the simple give-away of the safeguards in place to insure that America is kept a safe place to work and raise families.

We don't even need that. Many who come here have no desire to be a citizen, either because they plan to go back, or because being an American citizen makes it harder to send money back home due to trade & finance restrictions.

All we need, is an immigration policy that tailors itself around people's desire to come and work or sell their wares here. If we had that, we could snuff out what's growing the illegal population. If it's not growing, it'll melt away of its own accord.

Quote from: Alaska Slim on August 24, 2014, 06:14:27 PM
We don't even need that. Many who come here have no desire to be a citizen, either because they plan to go back, or because being an American citizen makes it harder to send money back home due to trade & finance restrictions.

All we need, is an immigration policy that tailors itself around people's desire to come and work or sell their wares here. If we had that, we could snuff out what's growing the illegal population. If it's not growing, it'll melt away of its own accord.

BS, as usual.

Quote from: DaisyJane on August 24, 2014, 03:06:31 PM
So says Pat Murphy, Democrat state representative from Iowa.  He espoused this brilliance on Iowa Public Radio.

Read this in The Daily Caller per link from Drudge Report today.  Sorry, my daughter is not here to post the link for me!

This guy proudly calls himself "the liberal's liberal."  That should tell you something.  He's part of a group that is trying to draft Elizabeth Warren to run.

I think he even gave an analogy to the Brit that supposedly beheaded Mr. Foley.  They are nuts, and SOME people agree with them.

DaisyJane     

THIS sure sounds like a terrorist threat to me. Arrest that libtard!

Quote from: Alaska Slim on August 24, 2014, 06:14:27 PM
We don't even need that. Many who come here have no desire to be a citizen, either because they plan to go back, or because being an American citizen makes it harder to send money back home due to trade & finance restrictions.

All we need, is an immigration policy that tailors itself around people's desire to come and work or sell their wares here. If we had that, we could snuff out what's growing the illegal population. If it's not growing, it'll melt away of its own accord.

I have a couple friends from Honduras. They are decent, hard working guys, and I consider them friends, but they aren't interested in citizenship. They're only interested in working here, sending a few bucks home to their family, retiring and MOVING BACK to Honduras to retire on their Social security.  I really don't blame them (they're not here illegally).

I do wonder how many Illegals really do care about becoming American citizens. I doubt very many UNLESS there is some economic benefit in doing so. Right now, they can get a lot of goodies without citizenship.

Quote from: keyboarder on August 24, 2014, 06:30:12 PM
BS, as usual.

Tell that to Eisenhower, who lowered illegal immigration by 95% in his time through just this logic.

Quote from: Alaska Slim on August 24, 2014, 06:14:27 PM
We don't even need that. Many who come here have no desire to be a citizen, either because they plan to go back, or because being an American citizen makes it harder to send money back home due to trade & finance restrictions.

All we need, is an immigration policy that tailors itself around people's desire to come and work or sell their wares here. If we had that, we could snuff out what's growing the illegal population. If it's not growing, it'll melt away of its own accord.

Alaska you're on to a solution.
When a multinational firm establishes legal residence in Nation X and wishes to remit earnings
earned in that Nation, to its Nation of origin (Nation A); it is subject to with a holding tax by
Nation X; per the tax treaty agreed between the two countries.
Therefore, have the remitting bank w/h, say, 40% of every dollar sent to Mexico, Honduras etc.
Then when the individual sender files his tax return the following year, he can claim a tax
credit for the amount w/h. This is exactly what multinationals do every day when they need
to move cash by repatriating earnings, interest, dividends, royalties, etc. and the FX markets
facilitate these transactions by buying and selling foreign exchange!
And as a bonus, such a system would enable the US Treasury to track these individuals!!!

Quote from: Walter Josh on August 24, 2014, 07:26:45 PM

Alaska you're on to a solution.
When a multinational firm establishes legal residence in Nation X and wishes to remit earnings
earned in that Nation, to its Nation of origin (Nation A); it is subject to with a holding tax by
Nation X; per the tax treaty agreed between the two countries.
Therefore, have the remitting bank w/h, say, 40% of every dollar sent to Mexico, Honduras etc.
Then when the individual sender files his tax return the following year, he can claim a tax
credit for the amount w/h. This is exactly what multinationals do every day when they need
to move cash by repatriating earnings, interest, dividends, royalties, etc. and the FX markets
facilitate these transactions by buying and selling foreign exchange!
And as a bonus, such a system would enable the US Treasury to track these individuals!!!

If I'm understanding your plan, I don't believe I'm opposed.

As to DotT tracking, they... already do... the IRS is just not allowed to talk to DHS or INS about them.

Quote from: Alaska Slim on August 24, 2014, 08:42:22 PM
If I'm understanding your plan, I don't believe I'm opposed.

As to DotT tracking, they... already do... the IRS is just not allowed to talk to DHS or INS about them.

Alaska,
The dynamic behind this concept is to force all immigrants into the open
where they will have to comply w/ our laws or they will be unable to
transfer money to their nation of origin; rules any serious nation enforces.
This means these immigrants will first have to get a valid SS# before they
can get an IRS Tax# to effect any FX transactions.

Quote from: Walter Josh on August 24, 2014, 10:35:09 PM

Alaska,
The dynamic behind this concept is to force all immigrants into the open
where they will have to comply w/ our laws

Well that's a non-starter unless you're going to change the law.

Most by our current law had no way of entering in legally. We don't have a process for them.