Testifying on Capitol Hill Wednesday about the failure of the Obamacare rollout, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius was grilled about President Obama's false promise that millions of Americans could keep their insurance plans. Sebelius and Obama repeatedly stated plans held prior to Obamacare passing and going into effect would be grandfathered in. What they didn't mention is the "grandfathering" process comes with caveats, meaning if plans didn't meet new Obamacare standards, they would be cancelled. Because of those caveats, millions of Americans in the individual health insurance market have lost their health insurance plans despite being promised they could keep them. Today, Sebelius admitted employer based insurance plans will also be cancelled as a result of grandfathering caveats and government requirements making plans illegal under Obamacare.

"Employer based grandfathered plans will have the same caveats," Sebelius said under questioning from Republican Senator John Thune.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/11/06/sebelius-bombshell-employer-based-plans-will-face-same-grandfathering-caveats-as-lost-plans-n1740097

This is becoming a major scandal for the administration.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 06, 2013, 03:54:56 PM
Testifying on Capitol Hill Wednesday about the failure of the Obamacare rollout, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius was grilled about President Obama's false promise that millions of Americans could keep their insurance plans. Sebelius and Obama repeatedly stated plans held prior to Obamacare passing and going into effect would be grandfathered in. What they didn't mention is the "grandfathering" process comes with caveats, meaning if plans didn't meet new Obamacare standards, they would be cancelled. Because of those caveats, millions of Americans in the individual health insurance market have lost their health insurance plans despite being promised they could keep them. Today, Sebelius admitted employer based insurance plans will also be cancelled as a result of grandfathering caveats and government requirements making plans illegal under Obamacare.
"Employer based grandfathered plans will have the same caveats," Sebelius said under questioning from Republican Senator John Thune.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/11/06/sebelius-bombshell-employer-based-plans-will-face-same-grandfathering-caveats-as-lost-plans-n1740097

This is becoming a major scandal for the administration.

Now you know b o will cover the unions ass on this. 

Unions will end  up just  fine.

This is where the Kenyan screwed up in a very big way.

Next year, a month or two before a very important mid-term election, tens of millions of employer-insured citizens are going to be getting the same kind of letters in the mail that are being received by individuals now. Sorry about your luck, John Q. Public -- your health care plan just got cancelled.

The Kenyan slid this one back a year, figuring that 10 or 15 million pissed off Americans could be handled in the short term, while the website debacle gets sorted out. But come next September-October, things are going to get interesting, just in time for the 2014 election.

I can't wait. 

Quote from: TboneAgain on November 07, 2013, 09:13:04 AM
This is where the Kenyan screwed up in a very big way.

Next year, a month or two before a very important mid-term election, tens of millions of employer-insured citizens are going to be getting the same kind of letters in the mail that are being received by individuals now. Sorry about your luck, John Q. Public -- your health care plan just got cancelled.

The Kenyan slid this one back a year, figuring that 10 or 15 million pissed off Americans could be handled in the short term, while the website debacle gets sorted out. But come next September-October, things are going to get interesting, just in time for the 2014 election.

I can't wait. 

One of the biggest scandals of the century, and the Dims are in a panic as to what to do about it.
I'm eating this up, because even a leftist media can't ignore the ensuing anger pointed directly at the party of sole ownership over this fiasco.

Quote from: Solar on November 07, 2013, 09:16:46 AM

One of the biggest scandals of the century, and the Dims are in a panic as to what to do about it.
I'm eating this up, because even a leftist media can't ignore the ensuing anger pointed directly at the party of sole ownership over this fiasco.

Exactly. That has to be our message. Dems = sole ownership of KenyaCare. Every day, every time, every chance, spread the word!

Quote from: TboneAgain on November 07, 2013, 09:23:27 AM
Exactly. That has to be our message. Dems = sole ownership of KenyaCare. Every day, every time, every chance, spread the word!

I love the fact that they have sole ownership. They're even start to mention, in the media, that's what the government slowdown was all about - delaying ObozoCare. Now we have Democraptic Senators begging for exactly the same thing Republicans were called "terrorists" and "extortionists" for. If you don't notice that, you really are a LIV, and we really need to remove your type from the voting rolls.

Quote from: TboneAgain on November 07, 2013, 09:23:27 AM
Exactly. That has to be our message. Dems = sole ownership of KenyaCare. Every day, every time, every chance, spread the word!

Sooo much, so little time.

It's why Sebilius is front and center, they need a scapegoat, but it's only a temporary distraction.

Quote from: Solar on November 07, 2013, 09:35:09 AM
Sooo much, so little time.

It's why Sebilius is front and center, they need a scapegoat, but it's only a temporary distraction.

You notice that the media has stopped calling it "ObamaCare" and has gone to the Affordable Care Act.

Quote from: mdgiles on November 07, 2013, 09:39:29 AM
You notice that the media has stopped calling it "ObamaCare" and has gone to the Affordable Care Act.

Yep like clockwork, just like renaming global warming, to climate change, but no one bought that either.
It will always be commiecare tax to me.

Quote from: Solar on November 07, 2013, 09:42:22 AM
Yep like clockwork, just like renaming global warming, to climate change, but no one bought that either.
It will always be commiecare tax to me.

Progressive --> Liberal --> Progressive

Quote from: TboneAgain on November 07, 2013, 09:55:51 AM
Progressive --> Liberal --> Progressive = Marxist.

FIFY

Quote from: Solar on November 07, 2013, 09:59:37 AM
FIFY

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