This is something I've been thinking about since the election. Despite what Obama and his party tells you, they really only won by a few small percentage points.

There are MILLIONS that don't get the news we do via the internet. They live in a world where the "news" has degenerated into Entertainment Tonight.  They have no idea what's really going on.  How would you reach them?

Today, Rush said he was toying with the idea of purchasing 30 minutes of air time on THEIR media.  Who knows, he might sway his tens of thousands.

I've been thinking I could reach my HUNDREDS if I created a monthly newsletter and simply distributed in door-to-door in 'da hood.'  It wouldn't have to be much, just some of the serious news that the Low-Information Voter doesn't get.  I'm thinking the stories in the newsletter could simply offer links back to the original news sources.

You will never convert 100% into smart voters, but I actually have more faith in these people than I do in converting the Lib to Conservatism. Their minds haven't been poisoned and they are open to what the Left is doing to the country--if they only have the FACTS. 

That's my plan.  What are your ideas to duplicate yourself at least once before the next election?

Good idea and most likely very effective, especially if it's short and to the point, especially when you consider your audience lives on soundbites.

That's one of the reasons I started this forum, so I could give people a voice in hopes of getting the message out.

Though I'm open for new ideas about creating other avenues on the web if you have any.

Not sure how effective this would be, given that I personally never read any of the free local newspaper / mags stuffed in my mailbox every week / month. The thing is, your target audience here do not currently seek for information (why else would they sit out the election?). And if they do, they turn to the likes of Jon Stewart, Colbert, Leno, etc. for entertainment with a bit of perverted news. Until these guys come to a point where it concerns them to know the truth / the facts, I'm afraid your newsletter will once again fall to deaf ears. Then again, never say never, it might just work!

I personally think a better target would be the younger voters, especially those who will be eligible to vote for the first time in 2014. The question is how to reach these greenhorns? Facebook?

Can they be reached? they are low information voters because there's really no reason for them to be high information voters. When your needs are small to non existent - and most of those are seen to by Nanny Government, why bother to spend the effort earning anything. It's much more important to see what's on the tube tonight. Do you really think the "Obama phone woman" or "voting is like sex woman" really give any deep thought to anything?

Quote from: mdgiles on December 03, 2012, 11:45:41 AM
Can they be reached? they are low information voters because there's really no reason for them to be high information voters. When your needs are small to non existent - and most of those are seen to by Nanny Government, why bother to spend the effort earning anything. It's much more important to see what's on the tube tonight. Do you really think the "Obama phone woman" or "voting is like sex woman" really give any deep thought to anything?

You're referring to the groups that are beyond fixing, there is no way in hell obama-phone-woman will ever educate herself with the facts. One she's perfectly content living off other's tax money, second her head will explode from over information. 
There might still be hope to those who are completely clueless, or at least are not biased towards the left so much if they are willing to accept facts, not opinions.

These people are hopless...the main problem is many are young, dumb and don't care. As they age as they deal with the problems this adminstration creates as it impacts them more negatively they MIGHT start to wise up.

In a nutshell thing got to get worse for them before they get it.

Just an example....on "the other board" there was this idiot Bambot who
was compalining about us "obama haters" as we were outlining the negative aspects of increased taxes on Capitol gains in one thread.

Then in another thread he comes in and asks an amazingly stupid question "Do you have to pay a tax when you invest in something"
The guy really didn't know, here's this 20 something who probably doesn't even have a check book and probably can't balance it if he did
discussing taxes and their impact and doesn't know basic facts....

That is what is voting folks Beavis and Butthead come to life.

Billy

Quote from: rocca on December 03, 2012, 11:53:01 AM
You're referring to the groups that are beyond fixing, there is no way in hell obama-phone-woman will ever educate herself with the facts. One she's perfectly content living off other's tax money, second her head will explode from over information. 
There might still be hope to those who are completely clueless, or at least are not biased towards the left so much if they are willing to accept facts, not opinions.

Yeah. These are NOT the people I would target.  I have one brother that listens to talk radio and the "alternative" media. He's well aware of what's going on. 

My elderly mother (voted the right way in November--probably her last election) and a sister who vote, but they would never be able to tell you about what happened in Libya, or any of the other nonsense of this president. They vote based on how the "like" a candidate.  They vote by feelings. 

There are millions like this, and I think they can be reached. I would feel wildly successful if I could lead 100 in our direction on voting day. 

I would be satisfied with 10 in the next 2 years. I guess I'd settle with duplicating myself ONCE.  If all Conservatives could simply duplicate themselves once, we'd win in a landslide--JUST ONE OTHER!  It seems doable to me.

There's another big problem..............................

Nobody considers themselves a "low information" voter. As far as they are concerned, they have all of the information they need to make an educated decision.

Anyone that attempts to tell them anything different will be labeled a neo-con, Fox loving, teabagger, racist, homophobic piece of crap, that only wants the rich to get richer.

I reject the negativity.  I'm going to work this plan.  Besides, the newsletter wouldn't be called "The Low-Information Voter News"  Just a bit the news they don't get if they're not regular internet users but can be steered that way.  I will even include some of my Peerfly ads (Win a free iPad) to get them to look over the news.

I'm feeling excited about this. I will probably convert it to PDF and upload is to www.issuu.com  besides distributing it in my local area.

I don't expect to convert everyone.  My main goal is to reach ONE (but I intend to do better)--to "poison" their minds against their beloved messiah. That should be your goal too.

Quote from: Yawn on December 03, 2012, 04:36:34 PM
I reject the negativity.  I'm going to work this plan.  Besides, the newsletter wouldn't be called "The Low-Information Voter News"  Just a bit the news they don't get if they're not regular internet users but can be steered that way.  I will even include some of my Peerfly ads (Win a free iPad) to get them to look over the news.

I'm feeling excited about this. I will probably convert it to PDF and upload is to www.issuu.com  besides distributing it in my local area.

I don't expect to convert everyone.  My main goal is to reach ONE (but I intend to do better)--to "poison" their minds against their beloved messiah. That should be your goal too.

It wasn't intended to be negative, it's just reality.

Also, getting people to wake is my goal. Has been for quite a while.

I think your idea has merit, and wll probably work for some. I keep thinking about how to get into the cities. Considering that many of the democrat run cities have become cesspools, it should be easy to change minds. That's the only place that dems win. In the big cities.

Before you can reach them, you have to get past the wall of stupidity erected by the media, the arts and the educational establishment.

It is not rational to be anything but a low information voter, for the impact of our individual vote is one out of thousands, or millions, depending on the state.

With such a little impact made voting one way or the other, it does not make any sense to incur the costs and burdens of seeking knowledge.

If the outcome was something that we could affect through the voting process and if there was a real choice presented at the ballot box, then perhaps taking the time and energy to learn and become informed would be rational.

The benefits would be tangible- a more enlightened state.

The costs would be minimal- only a few hours a week of our time.

But this is not the case.

The reverse is true.

The benefits are illusive. You can be the most informed voter ever and you still only have a 1/n impact.

While the costs are huge! Our time!

As the state taxes our incomes and steals our savings we literally are losing the time we worked.

In effect, it is not money that is being stolen, it is our labor and time. So we highly value what we have left of it. And most of us seek leisure after working half our day to keep Washington DC warm and full.

So the incentive to become informed is non-existent. This is an entirely rational ignorance- the costs are greater than the benefits.

The second one becomes informed they also become apathetic to politics for they see the state for what it is- a slave master.

Over at Ricochet (http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Bob-Costas-Goes-Keith-Olbermann-And-Not-In-A-Good-Way) today, they were commenting on Bob Costas' comments during the Cowboys vs Eagles game. Many noted how Libs often interject political comments into venues that - ostensibly - have nothing to do with politics at all. Indeed Libs interject their liberal politics into everything - which is how you they reach the low information voters. It's not that they are running politcal commercials or learned seminars; it's that every corporate character on Hollyweird or TV is a thief or a murderer. Or trying to pollute the environment. Or every Christian is a joke. Or every Muslim is the target of bias. To get to the low info types, we need to gain control of some of the entertainment, or arts, or news outlets. We've already made some inroads with Fox - which isn't conservative, merely balanced - it just seems right wing compared to the rest of the "news" we receive. So there are billionaires on the right, shouldn't they have recognized by know what Fox and talk radio did; that their is an absolute hunger for "The View" from our side? Why hasn't Sarah Palin become the "Oprah" of the right, yet? Why haven't they produced any MAJOR movies recently with openly pro American themes? As opposed to trying to sneak the themes in (you had to sit half through the Dark Knight Returns, before you realize what you're looking at)?

That's fine for the big guys with money.  But do you think you're powerless on your own level?  In your own neighborhood? Among your own circle of acquaintances?

That's why I say all you need to do is get information to a FEW that they normally don't get from the "news" sources they normally watch.

Some of you guys make this way too hard when it's easy.  You put up obstacles before you even begin.

Just ask yourself, "How can I duplicate myself--JUST ONCE, before the election of 2014?"  Then do it and stop poisoning your mind with excuses as to why you can't do anything.

Quote from: Yawn on December 04, 2012, 08:14:58 AM
That's fine for the big guys with money.  But do you think you're powerless on your own level?  In your own neighborhood? Among your own circle of acquaintances?

That's why I say all you need to do is get information to a FEW that they normally don't get from the "news" sources they normally watch.

Some of you guys make this way too hard when it's easy.  You put up obstacles before you even begin.

Just ask yourself, "How can I duplicate myself--JUST ONCE, before the election of 2014?"  Then do it and stop poisoning your mind with excuses as to why you can't do anything.

Yawn, I fully feel the desperation that so many are feeling since this last election. 

I haven't offered much in the way of debate but I do have the opinion that we don't need to give up even in the face of defeat.  Maybe we haven't been bold enough in our efforts.  It seems that every time a conservative has an opinion, that opinion has to have a certain format to be heard when all a liberal has to do is open their mouth and their opinions aren't questioned enough.  They are fully defined by their radical rhetoric and dismissed as unimportant at the same time by cons.  I'm not saying that we should adopt their crazy ways but rather learn different ways to counter them.  Your idea may work if you don't get discouraged to start with.  I plan to attend as many town hall meetings in my area as I possibly can so as to familiarize myself with the issues of the folks that are attending as well.  Factually, these meetings did alot of good for the cons in 2010.  My main objective is to somehow get questions raised about our electoral voting system.  It needs  to be kicked to the curb.  I'll never believe that this last election was not stolen.  I can't prove it and they know we can't.  When my husband served his 20 in the AF, he said that there were 3-4 times that he didn't get to vote and this not by any fault of his own.  Ballots are not getting to their designations on time to be in time to be counted.  That's question #2 for the town hall gatherings.  These two issues should keep me busy. 
I watched the debates and the conventions.  I read the news and watched the news and tried to vary what I was listening to as far as the news goes.   Fox was the most dependable for me.  Turnout at most of the debates was better for Romney than Obama.  Visuals of the different visits by each candidate clearly put Romney in front as far as turnout was concerned yet Obama won.  Reports that Romney didn't get as much as one vote in some cities was unbelievable to me. 
Not meaning to be glib but i will offer this, Paul Revere wanted to get the word out of a horrible event so out of necessity more than anything else, he jumped on a horse and went house to house shouting his warnings to the township.  I am saying that where we have sit on our rears and just had opinions, we should go out and engage in talking to folks that seem interested but don't have enough facts to make an informed action, say at the voting booths.  Who knows?  There may be some at those town hall meetings just like me, wanting to learn and needing to get information to the good.  The most informed of us should make every effort to let our voice be heard at such meetings.  It worked in 2010 and should work in 2014 but what I fear is the unscrupulous many that don't mind vote tampering that we know goes on.  If we don't change the electoral system we will run into this same mess in 2014-16.  Also, if I define myself as less than adequately informed on the issues but willing to attend to be able to learn, shouldn't our more learned folks be willing to attend to be of help?