https://gab.com/TheEpochTimes/posts/108026364559488112

QuoteThe Epoch Times
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Nazism and #fascism are framed as far-right ideologies. Yet, both systems are rooted in #communism . We'll unravel these misunderstandings about the political dichotomies of left and right.

I thought this was a very important point to make, that fascism and communism are both big government and thus both left wing ideologies.
However I have been surprised by the number of right wingers who seem to try to support fascism and claim it is not only right wing but good. 
I have to wonder if such people are not FBI plants, trying to lead the right down the wrong path.

Quote from: T Hunt on March 27, 2022, 09:12:17 AMhttps://gab.com/TheEpochTimes/posts/108026364559488112

I thought this was a very important point to make, that fascism and communism are both big government and thus both left wing ideologies.
However I have been surprised by the number of right wingers who seem to try to support fascism and claim it is not only right wing but good. 
I have to wonder if such people are not FBI plants, trying to lead the right down the wrong path.

Yep, and so is Nazism, and bigots who try and blame Joooos for everything, these are all rooted in Marxism!
Conservatism believes in limited Govt and personal freedoms, but all the aforementioned, are solid left.

Quote from: Solar on March 27, 2022, 10:10:33 AMYep, and so is Nazism, and bigots who try and blame Joooos for everything, these are all rooted in Marxism!
Conservatism believes in limited Govt and personal freedoms, but all the aforementioned, are solid left.

Ive got a couple arguments going on gab under that article and was surprised to see people defending fascism and nazism. I wonder if they are not FBI plants trying to get the right to go radical.

Quote from: T Hunt on March 27, 2022, 09:28:14 PMIve got a couple arguments going on gab under that article and was surprised to see people defending fascism and nazism. I wonder if they are not FBI plants trying to get the right to go radical.

Good question, makes GAB very suspect on its own, as maybe setup by the CIA?
Torba is a huge antisemite and so is at least a third of those posting on GAB.
It's why I quit going there, for anything other than memes. And even then, I usually wind up blocking at least two or three accounts a day over their bigotry and hate.

People don't realize these bigots who claim to support Trump are in fact Nazi, thing is, they're too damn young and stupid to see what they're advocating.
Like all bigots in the world, they lump everyone together over the actions of small groups or individuals.

I'll look for your posts.

I've always considered fascism right wing or alt-right. The element of fascism that is alt right for me is its racism. BLM and immigrants are evil/bad in the minds of today's alt right and thus I still consider fascism right. Stanley is an interesting historian on this topic. Read his short on Fascism.


midcan, you have other threads you've ignored, so this one gets edited until you respond to replies.

https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/ccp-virus-and-vaccine-bio-weapon/covid-19-vaccines-98-times-worse-than-the-virus/msg494982/?boardseen#new

https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/history/political-theory-and-readings/new/#new

Quote from: midcan5 on September 19, 2022, 06:03:11 AMI've always considered fascism right wing or alt-right. The element of fascism that is alt right for me is its racism. BLM and immigrants are evil/bad in the minds of today's alt right and thus I still consider fascism right. Stanley is an interesting historian on this topic. Read his short on Fascism.


midcan, you have other threads you've ignored, so this one gets edited until you respond to replies.

https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/ccp-virus-and-vaccine-bio-weapon/covid-19-vaccines-98-times-worse-than-the-virus/msg494982/?boardseen#new

https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/history/political-theory-and-readings/new/#new

Of course you do. That's why you are a leftist.

Quote from: midcan5 on September 19, 2022, 06:03:11 AMI've always considered fascism right wing or alt-right. The element of fascism that is alt right for me is its racism. BLM and immigrants are evil/bad in the minds of today's alt right and thus I still consider fascism right. Stanley is an interesting historian on this topic. Read his short on Fascism.


midcan, you have other threads you've ignored, so this one gets edited until you respond to replies.

https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/ccp-virus-and-vaccine-bio-weapon/covid-19-vaccines-98-times-worse-than-the-virus/msg494982/?boardseen#new

https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/history/political-theory-and-readings/new/#new

Quote from: midcan5 on September 19, 2022, 06:03:11 AMI've always considered fascism right wing or alt-right.

So you subscribe to the lefts revisionist history then? Because there is nothing right wing about fascism.

QuoteThe element of fascism that is alt right for me is its racism.

When has racism EVER been a right wing trait? Who were the KKK? Why does the left make up the southern swithc myth? Do you have ANY evidence of racism on the right?

QuoteBLM and immigrants are evil/bad in the minds of today's alt right and thus I still consider fascism right.

Why are you defending BLM when they are a communist organization? Thats why CRT isnt allowed anymore, the idea that blacks have it worse than whites is communist, not rooted in reality.

QuoteStanley is an interesting historian on this topic. Read his short on Fascism.

Why? He is a leftist and leftists never have anything to add. Its a tried and failed ideology of the past, not the future.

Quote from: T Hunt on September 20, 2022, 11:43:28 AMSo you subscribe to the lefts revisionist history then? Because there is nothing right wing about fascism....

I'll address each of your comments and save space. Everything about fascism is right wing.

"What are the 5 main ideas of fascism? Common themes among fascist movements include: authoritarianism, nationalism (including racial nationalism), hierarchy and elitism, and militarism. Other aspects of fascism such as its "myth of decadence", anti-egalitarianism and totalitarianism can be seen to originate from these ideas." Do you see the similarity?

The KKK are white supremacists and right wing. Their values and goals are outlined in link below.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/ku-klux-klan

Racist attitudes are all over the place but primarily on the right. This link covers my point.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/2332649214555031

Black Lives Matter is not a communist organization. If you think it is, prove it, document it. CRT is just an attempt to understand racism. Reality: BLM is just an acknowledgement of the fact blacks are killed by police and others indiscriminately. Check out the KKK history of lynching.

https://lynchinginamerica.eji.org/report/

Race is actually a social construct but humans hate each other for all sort of reasons, religion is a big one too. And calling a historian leftist just because you disagree and most likely have not read is not proof of anything.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis

Quote from: midcan5 on September 23, 2022, 05:33:43 AMI'll address each of your comments and save space. Everything about fascism is right wing.

"What are the 5 main ideas of fascism? Common themes among fascist movements include: authoritarianism, nationalism (including racial nationalism), hierarchy and elitism, and militarism. Other aspects of fascism such as its "myth of decadence", anti-egalitarianism and totalitarianism can be seen to originate from these ideas." Do you see the similarity?

The KKK are white supremacists and right wing. Their values and goals are outlined in link below.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/ku-klux-klan

Racist attitudes are all over the place but primarily on the right. This link covers my point.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/2332649214555031

Black Lives Matter is not a communist organization. If you think it is, prove it, document it. CRT is just an attempt to understand racism. Reality: BLM is just an acknowledgement of the fact blacks are killed by police and others indiscriminately. Check out the KKK history of lynching.

https://lynchinginamerica.eji.org/report/

Race is actually a social construct but humans hate each other for all sort of reasons, religion is a big one too. And calling a historian leftist just because you disagree and most likely have not read is not proof of anything.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis

Seriously? Everyone knows BLM is a Soros created Marxist movement designed to divide races.
I know you know better, and it's your job to promote lies on their behalf, but no one on this forum is that stupid, and our readership knows it as well.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/\

As to your ludicrous claim about the KKK being right wing? Again, everyone knows hate and hiding behind masks is what leftists have always done, and are still doing today under the guise of anti fascists.
They are the epitome Democrat, ANTIFA supporters could actually donate to the DNC, and no, don't give me that shit that anyone could have created that link, it's the fuckin Marxist DNC after all!

Oh, and SPLC is a Marxist/Fascist organization, has been for decades, just like your beloved ACLU.

You can post all the lies you like, but there's a price to be paid, you have to prove your own bull shit!
I bet you even think planned parenthood was all about helping families, Right?

Quote from: midcan5 on September 23, 2022, 05:33:43 AMI'll address each of your comments and save space. Everything about fascism is right wing.

Actually there isnt a single thing about fascism that is right wing....

Quote"What are the 5 main ideas of fascism? Common themes among fascist movements include: authoritarianism, nationalism (including racial nationalism), hierarchy and elitism, and militarism. Other aspects of fascism such as its "myth of decadence", anti-egalitarianism and totalitarianism can be seen to originate from these ideas." Do you see the similarity?

Authoritarianism=Left wing (think socialism and the covid hoax)
Racial Nationalism=Left wing (think BLM)
Heirarchy and elitism=Left wing (ya def left wing  think hollywood and the media and Epstein)
Militarism=Left wing (think RINOs and endless useless wars like ukraine)
Myth of Decadence=??? not sure what that is
Anti-egalitarianism=Leftwing (the left hates everyone being equal, thats why they attack the middle class)
Totalitarianism=Literally leftwing (think communism and socialism and of course fascism)

So thanks for that, you just proved beyond any doubt that fascism is left wing, thanks 

QuoteThe KKK are white supremacists and right wing. Their values and goals are outlined in link below.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/ku-klux-klan

If they are white supremacist then they are literally left wing. Look at how racist BLM is today and look at how there is no examples of trump ever saying anything racist. Remember, the southern switch never happened...

https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2020/06/23/larry-elders-uncle-tom-debunks-myth-political-parties-switched-on-racism/

https://www.pressveritas.com/post/systematic-racism-by-the-democrats

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1447240242341992

QuoteRacist attitudes are all over the place but primarily on the right. This link covers my point.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/2332649214555031

Actually that link doesnt give any examples of racism on the right. You need to post a quote from the article giving the relevant information because its not in there.....
So no examples of right wing racism so far, yet the left owns racist BLM and CRT.

QuoteBlack Lives Matter is not a communist organization. If you think it is, prove it, document it. CRT is just an attempt to understand racism. Reality: BLM is just an acknowledgement of the fact blacks are killed by police and others indiscriminately. Check out the KKK history of lynching.

Actually BLM has come out and admitted they are communist. No worming your way out of that one 
https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

Actually if you look at the facts you see all KKK lynching were dems on blacks, no conservatives involved.
Sorry CRT is know for pushing lies like the idea that blacks had it worse than whites, a debunked communist hoax that we are doing away with.
Actually the idea that 'blacks are killed by police and other indiscriminately' is another racist communist lie not backed up by any facts or science.
So again, thanks for showing us the connection between the left and racism.

Quotehttps://lynchinginamerica.eji.org/report/

again with known left wing sources that dont say what you claim they say. Why dont you paste the relevant parts in a quote so we know what you are talking about...

QuoteRace is actually a social construct but humans hate each other for all sort of reasons, religion is a big one too.

Wrong again, race is actually biological, just as gender is. But for some reason the left wants people to hate each other over race and gender.
Religion is actually supported by science, just not the religion of atheism. 

QuoteAnd calling a historian leftist just because you disagree and most likely have not read is not proof of anything.

Defending leftist historians just because they confirm your revisionist history is not proof of anything. However, if a historian is a leftist, then just like leftist scientists, they are not interested in facts, but in pushing their narrative. The right never does anything like that, no examples like there is for the left. But thanks for confirming that FACISM IS LEFT WING     

Quote"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis

    Imagine thinking that just because someone says something and someone quotes it, that automatically gives it weight         

Quote"Watch me...the proof of the pudding is in the eating." -Biden

Quote from: Solar on September 23, 2022, 06:27:13 AMSeriously? Everyone knows BLM is a Soros created Marxist movement designed to divide races.
I know you know better, and it's your job to promote lies on their behalf, but no one on this forum is that stupid, and our readership knows it as well.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/\

As to your ludicrous claim about the KKK being right wing? Again, everyone knows hate and hiding behind masks is what leftists have always done, and are still doing today under the guise of anti fascists.
They are the epitome Democrat, ANTIFA supporters could actually donate to the DNC, and no, don't give me that shit that anyone could have created that link, it's the fuckin Marxist DNC after all!

Oh, and SPLC is a Marxist/Fascist organization, has been for decades, just like your beloved ACLU.

You can post all the lies you like, but there's a price to be paid, you have to prove your own bull shit!
I bet you even think planned parenthood was all about helping families, Right?

He gives all these links but none of them say what he claims they say. He thinks if he claims that the right are racist and then posts a link about a journalist whining about the right that that will somehow give weight to his baseless claim.

Oh have I mentioned that pigs can fly? Sure, thing have a look....
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods/pork

See, I posted a link so my claim MUST be true       

Quote from: T Hunt on September 26, 2022, 12:17:14 PMHe gives all these links but none of them say what he claims they say. He thinks if he claims that the right are racist and then posts a link about a journalist whining about the right that that will somehow give weight to his baseless claim.

Oh have I mentioned that pigs can fly? Sure, thing have a look....
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods/pork

See, I posted a link so my claim MUST be true       

When a lib posts a link to other libs, they call him an intellect. When a lib posts a link to conservatives, they research it and call him a dumbass.

Quote from: Possum on September 26, 2022, 12:23:50 PMWhen a lib posts a link to other libs, they call him an intellect. When a lib posts a link to conservatives, they research it and call him a dumbass.

    
They dont seem to realize the right has a much better history and reputation for truth telling than the left who is literally paying millions for lying about Sandmann, and soon Rittenhouse.

Quote from: midcan5 on September 19, 2022, 06:03:11 AMI've always considered fascism right wing or alt-right. The element of fascism that is alt right for me is its racism. BLM and immigrants are evil/bad in the minds of today's alt right and thus I still consider fascism right. Stanley is an interesting historian on this topic. Read his short on Fascism.

Quotefascism
făsh′ĭz″əm
noun

    A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.Oppressive, dictatorial control.

Well, lets look at this, which party wants stringent governmental controls over business? Ain't conservatives.

Which party is using the FBI and the DOJ to violently suppress the opposition?  It ain't the conservatives.

Which party has a history of racism?  It ain't the conservatives.

Which party has a dictator want to be in office?  It ain't the conservatives.

Midcan, you ever read before you post?