Nikola Tesla
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Nikola Tesla (Serbian Cyrillic: Никола Тесла; 10 July 1856 – 7 January 1943) was a Serbian American inventor, electrical engineer, mechanical engineer, and futurist best known for his contributions to the design of the modern alternating current (AC) electricity supply system. In 1960 the General Conference on Weights and Measures named the SI unit of magnetic field strength the "tesla" in his honor.
Nikola Tesla was born on 10 July (O.S. 28 June) 1856 to Serbian parents in the village of Smiljan, Austrian Empire (modern-day Croatia). His father, Milutin Tesla, was an Orthodox priest. Tesla's mother, Đuka Tesla (née Mandić), whose father was also an Orthodox priest, had a talent for making home craft tools, mechanical appliances, and the ability to memorize Serbian epic poems. Đuka had never received a formal education. Nikola credited his eidetic memory and creative abilities to his mother's genetics and influence.
On 30 July 1891, at the age of 35, Tesla became a naturalized citizen of the United States, and established his South Fifth Avenue laboratory, and later another at 46 E. Houston Street, in New York. He lit electric lamps wirelessly at both locations, demonstrating the potential of wireless power transmission. In the same year, he patented the Tesla coil. Tesla served as vice president of the American Institute of Electrical Engineers, the forerunner (along with the Institute of Radio Engineers) of the modern-day IEEE, from 1892 to 1894.
Mihajlo Pupin
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Mihajlo Idvorski Pupin, Ph.D., LL.D. (Serbian Cyrillic: Михајло Идворски Пупин; 9 October 1858 – 12 March 1935), also known as Michael I. Pupin, was a Serbian and American physicist and physical chemist. Pupin is best known for his numerous patents, including a means of greatly extending the range of long-distance telephone communication by placing loading coils (of wire) at predetermined intervals along the transmitting wire (known as "pupinization"). Pupin was a founding member of National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (NACA) on March 3, 1915, which later became NASA.
Mihajlo Pupin was born on 9 October (27 September, OS) 1858 in the village of Idvor (in the modern-day municipality of Kovačica, Serbia) in Banat, in the Military Frontier in the Austrian Empire. After his father died in March 1874, the twenty-year-old Pupin decided to cancel his education in Prague due to financial problems and to move to the United States:
"When I landed at Castle Garden, forty-eight years ago, I had only five cents in my pocket. Had I brought five hundred dollars, instead of five cents, my immediate career in the new, and to me perfectly strange, land would have been the same. A young immigrant such as I was then does not begin his career until he has spent all the money which he has brought with him. I brought five cents, and immediately spent it upon a piece of prune pie, which turned out to be a bogus prune pie. It contained nothing but pits of prunes. If I had brought five hundred dollars, it would have taken me a little longer to spend it, mostly upon bogus things, but the struggle which awaited me would have been the same in each case. It is no handicap to a boy immigrant to land here penniless; it is not a handicap to any boy to be penniless when he strikes out for an independent career, provided that he has the stamina to stand the hardships that may be in store for him."
Karl Malden
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Karl Malden (born Mladen George Sekulovich; March 22, 1912 – July 1, 2009) was a Serbian American actor. In a career that spanned more than seven decades, he performed in such classic films as A Streetcar Named Desire, for which he won the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor; On the Waterfront; and One-Eyed Jacks. Among other notable film roles were Archie Lee Meighan in Baby Doll, Zebulon Prescott in How the West Was Won, and General Omar Bradley in Patton. His best-known role, though, was on television as Lt. Mike Stone on the 1970s crime drama, The Streets of San Francisco. During the 1970s and 1980s, he was also the spokesman for American Express.
Karl Malden, the eldest of three brothers, was born Mladen Sekulovich in Chicago, Illinois on March 22, 1912, and was raised in Gary, Indiana. His Bosnian Serb father, Petar Sekulović (1886–1975), worked in the steel mills and as a milkman, and his mother, Minnie (née Sebera) Sekulovich (1892–1995), was a Czech seamstress and actress. He changed his name from Mladen Sekulovich to Karl Malden at age 22. He anglicized his first name by swapping its letters "l" and "a" and making the result, Malden, his last name; then he proceeded to take his grandfather's first name of Karl and make it his first name. This was because the first theatre company he was in wanted him to shorten his name for its marquee. He thought that they wanted to fire him and were using his name as an excuse; although that wasn't the case, he still changed his name to give them no excuse.
Malden often found ways to say "Sekulovich" in films and television shows in which he appeared. For example, as General Omar Bradley in Patton, as his troops slog their way through enemy fire in Sicily, Malden says "Hand me that helmet, Sekulovich" to another soldier. In Dead Ringer, as a police detective in the squad room, Malden tells another detective: "Sekulovich, gimme my hat." In Fear Strikes Out, Malden, playing Jimmy Piersall's father John, introduces Jimmy to a baseball scout named Sekulovich. In Birdman of Alcatraz, as a prison warden touring the cell block, Malden recites a list of inmates' names, including Sekulovich. (Malden's father was not pleased, as he told his son "Mladen, no Sekulovich has ever been in prison!") In On the Waterfront, in which Malden plays the priest, among the names of the officers of Local 374 called out in the courtroom scene is Mladen Sekulovich, Delegate. Perhaps the most notable usage of his real name, however, was in the TV series The Streets of San Francisco. Malden's character in the program, Mike Stone, employed a legman (played by Art Metrano) with that name, who did various errands.
Tesla shares the top in a list of greatest inventors in history, despite the fact he was a hardcore socialist.
Simply a Brilliant man!
You left out a few notables...
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Sasha Alexander is an actress who has appeared in films like Yes Man (2008) and She's Just Not That Into You (2009), and television shows like Dawson's Creek, NCIS, and (currently) Rizzoli & Isles. She was born Suzana S. Drobnjaković (Serbian: Сузана Дробњаковић) in Los Angeles, CA in 1973; both her parents are Serbian.
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Peter Bogdonavich (Serbian: Петар Богдановић, Petar Bogdanovićis) is a Hollywood producer, director, actor, author, film historian, and critic. Best know as a director, his film credits include Paper Moon, Nickelodeon, Mask, What's Up, Doc? and most famously The Last Picture Show. Though Bogdonavich was born in New York in 1939, his father was Serbian.
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Milla Jovovich (born Milica Jovović) was born in 1975 in Kiev, Ukrainian SSR, then part of the Soviet Union, the daughter of Bogić Jovović, a Serbian pediatrician; her mother is an ethnic Russian. Besides being a knockout babe, Jovovich is a model, an actress, a musician, and a fashion designer. She has acted in a number of Hollywood films, and is best known for her role as the alien Leeloo in The Fifth Element, opposite Bruce Willis.
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Yeah, I saved the best for last. Divine, also known as Harris Glenn Milstead, was an actor, singer, and famous drag queen. He/she was once described by People magazine as "the drag queen of the century." His/her mother, Frances Milstead (née Vukovich) was a child of immigrant Serbian parents.
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Going to have to watch Fifth Element again, damn thats a good movie (even without hot Jovovich in tight outfit)
Bruce Willis is a conservative/libertarian as well, just makes it better :thumbup: Watched Looper the other day, very good movie.
Quote from: Solar on August 22, 2014, 11:01:22 AM
Tesla shares the top in a list of greatest inventors in history, despite the fact he was a hardcore socialist.
Simply a Brilliant man!
Why do you say he was a socialist, because he wanted to invent free energy supply, or because he didn't want to earn money out of his inventions?
I think he was just a pure scientist and philosopher, maybe even an artistic type of person, who has been constantly obsessed by his ideas 24/7, and so lacking the time and will to make some business or do anything else. He never slept more than two hours a day, and the rest of the time he was spending on thinking and working out his ideas and inventions.
Speaking of free energy supply, it could actually never be completely free, because some infrastructure or devices are needed in any case, but if it could be much cheaper or almost free, that would do a great boost to small businesses and economy. I believe it would be possible to make electricity directly out of Sun rays. I have read somewhere that the Sun is not made of hydrogen and helium, but it is actually a kind of a collector of cosmic electricity.
Quote from: TboneAgain on August 22, 2014, 02:27:51 PM
You left out a few notables...
Sasha Alexander
Peter Bogdonavich
Milla Jovovich
Divine
I wanted to mention Milla Jovovich later. I think I've never heard of Sasha Alexander and Peter Bogdanovich before, thank you for that info. And I think I've heard of Divine somewhere some time ago, but can't remember where or when.
Quote from: milos on August 25, 2014, 02:35:40 PM
Why do you say he was a socialist, because he wanted to invent free energy supply, or because he didn't want to earn money out of his inventions?
I think he was just a pure scientist and philosopher, maybe even an artistic type of person, who has been constantly obsessed by his ideas 24/7, and so lacking the time and will to make some business or do anything else. He never slept more than two hours a day, and the rest of the time he was spending on thinking and working out his ideas and inventions.
Speaking of free energy supply, it could actually never be completely free, because some infrastructure or devices are needed in any case, but if it could be much cheaper or almost free, that would do a great boost to small businesses and economy. I believe it would be possible to make electricity directly out of Sun rays. I have read somewhere that the Sun is not made of hydrogen and helium, but it is actually a kind of a collector of cosmic electricity.
I wanted to mention Milla Jovovich later. I think I've never heard of Sasha Alexander and Peter Bogdanovich before, thank you for that info. And I think I've heard of Divine somewhere some time ago, but can't remember where or when.
Yes, because there is no such thing as free. Who do you suppose would set up a system that carries no profit?
The govt via the tax payer.
Quote from: Mountainshield on August 25, 2014, 04:10:17 AM
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Going to have to watch Fifth Element again, damn thats a good movie (even without hot Jovovich in tight outfit)
Bruce Willis is a conservative/libertarian as well, just makes it better :thumbup: Watched Looper the other day, very good movie.
Tight outfit?! Heck, in at least one scene she was essentially naked, with just strips of tape over her nipples. That's a tight enough outfit for me! :tounge:
You know, I've tried several times to watch
Looper, but I've never been able to plod through it. As for Willis' conservative views, um, he doesn't really have many. He supported Dukakis in 1988 and took no stand either way in 2008. Here's a quote from the horse's mouth I pulled off his Wikipedia page:
QuoteIn February 2006, Willis appeared in Manhattan to talk about 16 Blocks with reporters. One reporter attempted to ask Willis about his opinion on the current government, but was interrupted by Willis in mid-sentence: "I'm sick of answering this fucking question. I'm a Republican only as far as I want a smaller government, I want less government intrusion. I want them to stop shitting on my money and your money and tax dollars that we give 50 percent of... every year. I want them to be fiscally responsible and I want these goddamn lobbyists out of Washington. Do that and I'll say I'm a Republican... I hate the government, OK? I'm apolitical. Write that down. I'm not a Republican."
Quote from: TboneAgain on August 25, 2014, 05:27:20 PM
Tight outfit?! Heck, in at least one scene she was essentially naked, with just strips of tape over her nipples. That's a tight enough outfit for me! :tounge:
You know, I've tried several times to watch Looper, but I've never been able to plod through it. As for Willis' conservative views, um, he doesn't really have many. He supported Dukakis in 1988 and took no stand either way in 2008. Here's a quote from the horse's mouth I pulled off his Wikipedia page:
Quote:
In February 2006, Willis appeared in Manhattan to talk about 16 Blocks with reporters. One reporter attempted to ask Willis about his opinion on the current government, but was interrupted by Willis in mid-sentence: "I'm sick of answering this fucking question. I'm a Republican only as far as I want a smaller government, I want less government intrusion. I want them to stop shitting on my money and your money and tax dollars that we give 50 percent of... every year. I want them to be fiscally responsible and I want these goddamn lobbyists out of Washington. Do that and I'll say I'm a Republican... I hate the government, OK? I'm apolitical. Write that down. I'm not a Republican."
Did he just call out the RINO's?
Quote from: supsalemgr on August 25, 2014, 05:45:25 PM
Quote:
In February 2006, Willis appeared in Manhattan to talk about 16 Blocks with reporters. One reporter attempted to ask Willis about his opinion on the current government, but was interrupted by Willis in mid-sentence: "I'm sick of answering this fucking question. I'm a Republican only as far as I want a smaller government, I want less government intrusion. I want them to stop shitting on my money and your money and tax dollars that we give 50 percent of... every year. I want them to be fiscally responsible and I want these goddamn lobbyists out of Washington. Do that and I'll say I'm a Republican... I hate the government, OK? I'm apolitical. Write that down. I'm not a Republican."
Did he just call out the RINO's?
Maybe we need a new acronym -- CINO. It means Conservative In Name Only.
Quote from: TboneAgain on August 25, 2014, 06:00:31 PM
Maybe we need a new acronym -- CINO. It means Conservative In Name Only.
Oh well that was sad to read, then again if all Hollywood was libertarian they would still be self-righteous condescending assholes, but at least they wouldn't cause any damage and leave us alone instead :laugh:
Quote from: Mountainshield on August 26, 2014, 06:41:58 AM
Oh well that was sad to read, then again if all Hollywood was libertarian they would still be self-righteous condescending assholes, but at least they wouldn't cause any damage and leave us alone instead :laugh:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I doubt it, they'd still want to impose their "non-morality" on us. :biggrin:
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Quote from: Solar on August 25, 2014, 04:41:37 PM
Yes, because there is no such thing as free. Who do you suppose would set up a system that carries no profit?
The govt via the tax payer.
I think this is a misunderstanding of Tesla's intentions, and that by the "free energy" Tesla meant an energy system which would need no natural resources to refill, except for the energy of the Sun, which is constantly present during the daylight. Tesla wanted to invent a self-acting engine which would gather solar energy from the air and broadcast it wirelessly around the world. That probably meant anyone could produce or buy these engines. It would be much cheaper and more efficient and reliable energy system. Today, to make energy, we mostly use energy systems which need coal, oil, gas, or water refilling. And sometimes we use wind or Sun but very rarely. But this Tesla's self-acting engine would use only the energy of the Sun, and would need no other resources to refill. It would lower the production costs, meaning a cheaper energy for machines and transportation, so it would boost small businesses and every individual would benefit and profit out of it. So, for example, companies could build or buy such engines to cover their energy needs. Or municipalities could gather the money to buy one such engine to cover the energy needs of every home in their area. There is no need for this to be a government program supported by taxpayers money.
Here is an article on this subject.
http://www.free-energy.ws/nikola-tesla.html (http://www.free-energy.ws/nikola-tesla.html)
Nikola Tesla was a multi-disciplinary genius. His discovery of the rotating magnetic field in 1882 lead to a series of US Patents in 1888, which gave us the AC electric power system still in use today. This one achievement earned him the honor of being called "The Man Who Invented the 20th Century".
But his research went way beyond what has found its way into everyday use. He is the recognized inventor of the brushless AC induction motor, radio, remote control by radio, super-conductivity, fluorescent lighting, the bladeless turbine engine and pump, the capacitor discharge ignition system for automobile engines, the mechanical oscillator, and dozens of other inventions. But he also discovered that useful energy could be extracted from the heat of the ambient air, and that electric power in the form of Radiant Energy could be broadcast to everyone in the world through the ground.
In his masterful article
The Problem of Increasing Human Energy, first published in Century Illustrated Magazine in June 1900, Tesla discusses the "energy situation" like never before. After discussing every known method of gathering energy from the Natural World, Tesla departs into the unknown. His first discussion is about a machine that can gather heat from the ambient air. He calls it a "Self-acting Engine" since it could run indefinitely from the solar energy stored in the air. He called it "the ideal way of obtaining motive power".
Tesla worked for years trying to solve all of the technical issues presented by the idea. His work with liquified air, his discovery of super-conductivity at ultra-low temperatures, his bladeless turbine and mechanical oscillator were all
spin-offs from his work on the ambient air engine. He was convinced the system could work and that it was absolutely the best way to harness solar energy.
On a world that is warming up, tapping ambient sources of heat in the air, water and ground are the most important technologies to develop at this time.
But Nikola Tesla's most famous attempt to provide everyone in the world with free energy was his World Power System, a method of broadcasting electrical energy without wires, through the ground. His Wardenclyffe Tower was never finished, but his dream of providing energy to all points on the globe is still alive today.
Quote from: Solar on August 22, 2014, 11:01:22 AM
Tesla shares the top in a list of greatest inventors in history, despite the fact he was a hardcore socialist.
Simply a Brilliant man!
Ha, I was going to say the same exact thing... He's the exception to the rule.
Here are some Tesla's quotes which explain that by "free energy" he meant "free energy sources".
http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Quotes/ (http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Quotes/)
Electric power is everywhere present in unlimited quantities and can drive the world's machinery without the need of coal, oil, gas, or any other of the common fuels.
All peoples everywhere should have free energy sources.
I can now state that I have succeeded in operating a motive device by means of cosmic rays. I will tell you in the most general way, the cosmic ray ionizes the air, setting free many charges - ions and electrons. These charges are captured in a condenser which is made to discharge through the circuit of the motor.
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/quotes.htm (http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/quotes.htm)
. . . there is a possibility of obtaining energy not only in the form of light, but motive power, and energy of any other form, in some more direct way from the medium. The time will be when this will be accomplished, and the time has come when one may utter such words before an enlightened audience without being considered a visionary. We are whirling through endless space with an inconceivable speed, all around us everything is spinning, everything is moving, everywhere is energy. There must be some way of availing ourselves of this energy more directly. Then, with the light obtained from the medium, with the power derived from it, with every form of energy obtained without effort, from the store forever inexhaustible, humanity will advance with giant strides. The mere contemplation of these magnificent possibilities expands our minds, strengthens our hopes and fills our hearts with supreme delight. . . . — "Experiments With Alternate Currents of Very High Frequency and their Application to Methods of Artificial Illumination", 1891
When the great truth accidentally revealed and experimentally confirmed is fully recognized, that this planet, with all its appalling immensity, is to electric currents virtually no more than a small metal ball and that by this fact many possibilities, each baffling imagination and of incalculable consequence, are rendered absolutely sure of accomplishment; when the first plant is inaugurated and it is shown that a telegraphic message, almost as secret and non-interferable as a thought, can be transmitted to any terrestrial distance, the sound of the human voice, with all its intonations and inflections, faithfully and instantly reproduced at any other point of the globe, the energy of a waterfall made available for supplying light, heat or motive power, anywhere — on sea, or land, or high in the air — humanity will be like an ant heap stirred up with a stick: See the excitement coming! — "The Transmission of Electric Energy Without Wires", 1904
. . . a few years hence, it will be possible for nations to fight without armies, ships or guns, by weapons far more terrible, to the destructive action and range of which there is virtually no limit. Any city, at a distance, whatsoever, from the enemy, can be destroyed by him and no power on earth can stop him from doing so. If we want to avert an impending calamity and a state of things which may transform the globe into an inferno, we should push the development of flying machines and wireless transmission of energy without an instant's delay and with all the power and resources of the nation. — "My Inventions", Electrical Experimenter, 1919
. . . I gave to the world a wireless system of potentialities far beyond anything before conceived. I made explicit and repeated statements that I contemplated transmission, absolutely unlimited as to terrestrial distance and amount of energy. But, altho I have overcome all obstacles which seemed in the beginning unsurmountable and found elegant solutions of all the problems which confronted me, yet, even at this very day, the majority of experts are still blind to the possibilities which are within easy attainment. — "The True Wireless", Electrical Experimenter, May 1919
I am most interested, however, in the perfection of broadcasting which is now carried on with unfit apparatus and on a commercially defective plan. The transmitters have to be greatly improved and the receivers simplified and in the distribution of wireless energy for all purposes the precedent established by the telegraph, telephone and power companies must be followed, for while the means are different the service is of the same character. Technical invention is akin to architecture and the experts must in time come to the same conclusions I have reached long ago. Sooner or later my power system will have to be adopted in its entirety and so far as I am concerned it is as good as done. If I were ever assailed by doubt of ultimate success I would dismiss it by remembering the words of that great philosopher, Lord Kelvin, who after witnessing some of my experiments said to me with tears in his eyes: "I am sure you will do it." — "World System of Wireless Transmission of Energy", Telegraph and Telegraph Age, October 16, 1927
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Nikola Tesla was a great visionary and technological genius, I can't begin to comprehend his unique and higher intellect when it comes to technology and science.
That being said he was a utopian fool in economics, and insane when it came to his social life (married a pigeon or something). I wouldn't trust him in any government position, the government is not science despite what utopian communists believe one expert or even 100,000 experts are not as smart as 1,000,000 citizens and it is wholly impossible to predict the needs and consumer patterns to a degree you could plan in it all in a state owned economy and make it work. We have been there before, it's called socialism.
Besides we already basically have a energy that is practically limitless and nearly free by the laws of economics, and that is oil. First they said in 20 years we would run out of oil, then 50 years, then 100 years, then 200 years, and now they finally admit they don't know. Lets use oil and bring about economic prosperity instead of just talking about hypothetical utopias.
Quote from: milos on August 26, 2014, 09:11:01 AM
I think this is a misunderstanding of Tesla's intentions, and that by the "free energy" Tesla meant an energy system which would need no natural resources to refill, except for the energy of the Sun, which is constantly present during the daylight. Tesla wanted to invent a self-acting engine which would gather solar energy from the air and broadcast it wirelessly around the world. That probably meant anyone could produce or buy these engines. It would be much cheaper and more efficient and reliable energy system. Today, to make energy, we mostly use energy systems which need coal, oil, gas, or water refilling. And sometimes we use wind or Sun but very rarely. But this Tesla's self-acting engine would use only the energy of the Sun, and would need no other resources to refill. It would lower the production costs, meaning a cheaper energy for machines and transportation, so it would boost small businesses and every individual would benefit and profit out of it. So, for example, companies could build or buy such engines to cover their energy needs. Or municipalities could gather the money to buy one such engine to cover the energy needs of every home in their area. There is no need for this to be a government program supported by taxpayers money.
Here is an article on this subject.
http://www.free-energy.ws/nikola-tesla.html (http://www.free-energy.ws/nikola-tesla.html)
Nikola Tesla was a multi-disciplinary genius. His discovery of the rotating magnetic field in 1882 lead to a series of US Patents in 1888, which gave us the AC electric power system still in use today. This one achievement earned him the honor of being called "The Man Who Invented the 20th Century".
But his research went way beyond what has found its way into everyday use. He is the recognized inventor of the brushless AC induction motor, radio, remote control by radio, super-conductivity, fluorescent lighting, the bladeless turbine engine and pump, the capacitor discharge ignition system for automobile engines, the mechanical oscillator, and dozens of other inventions. But he also discovered that useful energy could be extracted from the heat of the ambient air, and that electric power in the form of Radiant Energy could be broadcast to everyone in the world through the ground.
In his masterful article The Problem of Increasing Human Energy, first published in Century Illustrated Magazine in June 1900, Tesla discusses the "energy situation" like never before. After discussing every known method of gathering energy from the Natural World, Tesla departs into the unknown. His first discussion is about a machine that can gather heat from the ambient air. He calls it a "Self-acting Engine" since it could run indefinitely from the solar energy stored in the air. He called it "the ideal way of obtaining motive power".
Tesla worked for years trying to solve all of the technical issues presented by the idea. His work with liquified air, his discovery of super-conductivity at ultra-low temperatures, his bladeless turbine and mechanical oscillator were all spin-offs from his work on the ambient air engine. He was convinced the system could work and that it was absolutely the best way to harness solar energy.
On a world that is warming up, tapping ambient sources of heat in the air, water and ground are the most important technologies to develop at this time.
But Nikola Tesla's most famous attempt to provide everyone in the world with free energy was his World Power System, a method of broadcasting electrical energy without wires, through the ground. His Wardenclyffe Tower was never finished, but his dream of providing energy to all points on the globe is still alive today.
Funny, we already have that, it's called nuclear power generation, and every home has a meter to measure their individual usage and pay accordingly.
Unlike the dream of a socialist, where you pay the same as the corporation down the street using 100 times the energy you are.
That's how Capitalism works, the Mkt decides what works, not the Govt.
Quote from: Mountainshield on August 27, 2014, 05:05:02 AM
Nikola Tesla was a great visionary and technological genius, I can't begin to comprehend his unique and higher intellect when it comes to technology and science.
That being said he was a utopian fool in economics, and insane when it came to his social life (married a pigeon or something). I wouldn't trust him in any government position, the government is not science despite what utopian communists believe one expert or even 100,000 experts are not as smart as 1,000,000 citizens and it is wholly impossible to predict the needs and consumer patterns to a degree you could plan in it all in a state owned economy and make it work. We have been there before, it's called socialism.
Besides we already basically have a energy that is practically limitless and nearly free by the laws of economics, and that is oil. First they said in 20 years we would run out of oil, then 50 years, then 100 years, then 200 years, and now they finally admit they don't know. Lets use oil and bring about economic prosperity instead of just talking about hypothetical utopias.
I am not a scientist either, but when a man like Tesla said there is a way for us to produce electric power using the energy of cosmic rays, then I must believe him. Just two hundred years ago, people thought human flight was a hypothetical fantasy. Today it is normal for people to fly. A hundred years ago, people thought space flight was a hypothetical fantasy. Today it is normal that people fly into universe. Fifty years ago, cell phones were science fiction. Now everyone has a cell phone. (And I don't mean free cell phone, lol.) So, I am sure it would be completely normal each man and woman have their own little wireless electric power device using the energy of cosmic rays or solar rays one day, just like they have cell phones today. And it will be economically smart and efficient and reliable and clean and cheap power, made from an energy source which is directly available to every individual, because it is present everywhere around us in limitless quantities, and it would make every individual more independent. Could you imagine what boost in economy would that make? Oil, as an energy source, besides the fact it makes pollution, is not directly available to all private individuals, but private individuals depend on oil producers and suppliers instead. And oil will be useless one day we have technology to fly deep space, in that order we simply must develop power devices which use some energy present in the universe, such as cosmic rays.
Tesla didn't marry a pigeon, he just stated he had a dove which was like his spouse. He never married, nor had a social life, because he was completely dedicated to scientific work, and he thought a wife would distract him from his science. He didn't have any political aspirations. As far as I know, Tesla never proposed a state owned economy.
Quote from: Solar on August 27, 2014, 05:31:20 AM
Funny, we already have that, it's called nuclear power generation, and every home has a meter to measure their individual usage and pay accordingly.
Unlike the dream of a socialist, where you pay the same as the corporation down the street using 100 times the energy you are.
That's how Capitalism works, the Mkt decides what works, not the Govt.
Just like with the oil, nuclear power is an energy source which is not directly available to every private individual, but private individuals depend on nuclear power producers and suppliers. And nuclear power is also very dangerous, we saw what happened in Chernobyl and Fukushima. Electric power made from cosmic or solar rays would be an energy source directly available to each individual, and it would make every individual more independent. This is not a question of politics, but a question of scientific and technological advance. Does anyone believe people will stick to today's energy sources, like coal, oil, gas, or nuclear power, forever? Science will and shall advance, that is a law of human history.
Quote from: milos on August 28, 2014, 02:33:01 AM
in that order we simply must develop power devices which use some energy present in the universe, such as cosmic rays.
Electric power made from cosmic or solar rays would be an energy source directly available to each individual, and it would make every individual more independent. This is not a question of politics, but a question of scientific and technological advance. Does anyone believe people will stick to today's energy sources, like coal, oil, gas, or nuclear power, forever? Science will and shall advance, that is a law of human history.
Tesla lost because the world wanted viable energy now, and what Tesla proposed was still in it's infancy.
Would you not assume had his dream been a reality, that we wouldn't be using it today on some scale?
Quote from: Solar on August 28, 2014, 06:21:21 AM
Tesla lost because the world wanted viable energy now, and what Tesla proposed was still in it's infancy.
Would you not assume had his dream been a reality, that we wouldn't be using it today on some scale?
People idolize Tesla, no one is denying his technological genius, but as far as the modern information society go we owe far more to Edison for the real world application of electricity than to Tesla. And yet people despise Thomas Edison, sure he was a bully but at least he made it happen.
But I wouldn't trust Edison to govern either. Why do we care so much about the political views of scientists, when scientists are probably more clueless than a barmaid in the field of political science?
Quote from: Mountainshield on August 28, 2014, 09:05:45 AM
People idolize Tesla, no one is denying his technological genius, but as far as the modern information society go we owe far more to Edison for the real world application of electricity than to Tesla. And yet people despise Thomas Edison, sure he was a bully but at least he made it happen.
Actually Tesla brought AC power.
But I agree, it was Edison that opened the door for great minds like Tesla to succeed.
Honestly, there wouldn't be an Internet if not for Edison, not that he played a direct part in it's birth, but he set the ball in motion far sooner by his inventions.
QuoteBut I wouldn't trust Edison to govern either. Why do we care so much about the political views of scientists, when scientists are probably more clueless than a barmaid in the field of political science?
Bingo! Like the AGW group attempting to set policy regarding Capitalism.. The agenda behind the push is blatantly communist.
Quote from: Solar on August 28, 2014, 06:21:21 AM
Tesla lost because the world wanted viable energy now, and what Tesla proposed was still in it's infancy.
Would you not assume had his dream been a reality, that we wouldn't be using it today on some scale?
Yes, Tesla was far beyond his era. But his time is still to come. As he stated:
"It seems that I have always been ahead of my time. I had to wait nineteen years before Niagara was harnessed by my system, fifteen years before the basic inventions for wireless which I gave to the world in 1893 were applied universally."
"The scientific man does not aim at an immediate result. He does not expect that his advanced ideas will be readily taken up. His work is like that of the planter - for the future. His duty is to lay the foundation for those who are to come, and point the way."
"Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine."
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/n/nikola_tesla.html (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/n/nikola_tesla.html)
And something on Edison: :wink:
"If Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found the object of his search. I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety per cent of his labor."
http://thinkexist.com/quotes/nikola_tesla/ (http://thinkexist.com/quotes/nikola_tesla/)
Today, I watched a "Pawn Stars" episode with a poem written by Nikola Tesla. I found a video of it on You Tube, but it is of a poor quality, recorded from TV screen.
Pawn Stars -nikola's poem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNquAizLUb0#ws)
And another interesting video on Nikola Tesla.
https://curiosity.com/video/nikola-tesla-great-minds-scishow/ (https://curiosity.com/video/nikola-tesla-great-minds-scishow/)
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Quote from: milos on August 29, 2014, 02:13:47 AM
Yes, Tesla was far beyond his era. But his time is still to come. As he stated:
"It seems that I have always been ahead of my time. I had to wait nineteen years before Niagara was harnessed by my system, fifteen years before the basic inventions for wireless which I gave to the world in 1893 were applied universally."
"The scientific man does not aim at an immediate result. He does not expect that his advanced ideas will be readily taken up. His work is like that of the planter - for the future. His duty is to lay the foundation for those who are to come, and point the way."
"Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine."
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/n/nikola_tesla.html (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/n/nikola_tesla.html)
And something on Edison: :wink:
"If Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found the object of his search. I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety per cent of his labor."
http://thinkexist.com/quotes/nikola_tesla/ (http://thinkexist.com/quotes/nikola_tesla/)
What Tesla waited on was mostly the taming of the falls by mechanical means. There is much more to hydroelectric power generation than simply dropping a magic generator into a river.
The hydro business is one of the most capital-intensive fields yet devised by humans. Almost all the capital must be invested up front because that's where the money gets spent -- dams and diversion canals and penstocks and massive powerhouses designed for much more than merely holding generators in place. For every dollar earned from a hydro venture, at least 90 cents are spent up front. The generators that Tesla designed were just icing on a cake he had nothing to do with.
This one is an ethnic Hungarian, but she's a Serbian pride. Her name is still a synonym for tennis in Serbia.
Monika Seleš
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Seles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Seles)
Monica Seles (Serbian: Monika Seleš, Моника Селеш; Hungarian: Szeles Mónika, pronounced [sɛlɛʃ], born December 2, 1973) is the former Yugoslav world no. 1 professional tennis player and a member of the International Tennis Hall of Fame. She was born and raised in Novi Sad, SR Serbia, SFR Yugoslavia. She became a naturalized United States citizen in 1994 and also received Hungarian citizenship in June 2007. She won nine Grand Slam singles titles, winning eight of them while a citizen of Yugoslavia and one while a citizen of the United States.
In 1990, Seles became the youngest-ever French Open champion at the age of 16. She went on to win eight Grand Slam singles titles before her 20th birthday and was the year-end World No. 1 in 1991 and 1992. However, on April 30, 1993 she was the victim of an on-court attack, when a man stabbed her in the back with a 9-inch-long knife. Seles did not return to tennis for over two years. Though she enjoyed some success after rejoining the tour in 1995, including a fourth Australian Open success in 1996, she was unable to consistently reproduce her best form. She played her last professional match at the 2003 French Open, but did not officially retire until February 2008.
In June 2011, she was named one of the "30 Legends of Women's Tennis: Past, Present and Future" by Time.
Zolbol's Tennis Special 66 - A Young Monica Seles.avi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YKh-dRp3cw#)
Monica Seles Interview (April 17 2009) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2bsYSOYRic#ws)
Here is another one. This one was involved in Texas Revolution.
George Fisher
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Fisher_%28settler%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Fisher_%28settler%29)
George (Jorge) Fisher (April 1795 - June 11, 1873) was a customs officer and early leader of the Texas Revolution.
Fisher was originally named Đorđe Šagić/Ђорђе Шагић, and also known as Đorđe Ribar/Ђорђе Рибар, which translated into English is George Fisher. He was born to Serbian parents in Székesfehérvár, Hungary in April 1795. Following his father's death Đorđe was sent to the Serbian Orthodox Church seminary in Sremski Karlovci, to train as a priest. He left in 1813 to join the Serbian revolutionary forces during the First Serbian Uprising. He traveled to Philadelphia in the United States in 1814 before heading to Mexico. In 1825, Fisher helped found the first York Rite Masonic Lodge in Mexico. He became a naturalized Mexican citizen in 1829 and contracted to settle five hundred families on lands in Texas formerly held by Haden Edward.
Fisher later was in charge of a customs house at the far north end of Galveston Bay, succeeding the very unpopular John Davis Bradburn in this post. Fisher demanded that all ships landing at the mouth of the Brazos River pay their customs duties to him at Anahuac. This was a great hardship to area boat captains due to the great distances between that port and other Texas seaports. Fisher was forced to resign his post in early 1832 after a military confrontation with Texian settlers.
Later that year, Fisher began publishing the liberal newspaper Mercurio del Puerto de Matamoros in Matamoros. On October 13, 1835, Fisher and José Antonio Mexía organized a movement in New Orleans to attack Tampico and instigate a revolt among the eastern states of Mexico.
In 1837, he became a commission agent in Houston, in the Republic of Texas, and served as justice of the peace in 1839. Fisher was admitted to the bar in 1840 and was elected to the Houston city council. In 1843 he became a major in the Texas militia.
He traveled to Panama in 1850 and on to California in 1851. He served in various civic and administrative posts in San Francisco from 1860 to 1870. Soon after retiring, he was appointed by the King of Greece as Consul for that nation.
Fisher was married four times. He died in San Francisco on June 11, 1873.
And how could I forget this guy? His father, Nikola Janković, was of Serbian origin.
"Weird Al" Yankovic
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic)
Alfred Matthew "Weird Al" Yankovic (/ˈjæŋkəvɪk/ YANG-kə-vik; born October 23, 1959) is an American singer, songwriter, parodist, record producer, satirist, actor, music video director, film producer, and author. He is known for his humorous songs that make light of popular culture and often parody specific songs by contemporary musical acts, original songs that are style pastiches of the work of other acts, and polka medleys of several popular songs, featuring his favored instrument, the accordion.
Yankovic was born in Downey, California and raised in Lynwood, California. He is the only child of Nicholas Louis Yankovic (June 4, 1917 – April 9, 2004) and Mary Elizabeth Yankovic (née Vivalda; February 7, 1923 – April 9, 2004). His father was born in Kansas City, Kansas, of Yugoslavian descent, and began living in California after serving during World War II; he believed "the key to success" was "doing for a living whatever makes you happy" and often reminded his son of this philosophy. Nick Yankovic married Mary Elizabeth Vivalda in 1949. Mary, who was of Italian and English descent, had come to California from Kentucky, and gave birth to Alfred ten years later.
Quote from: Mountainshield on August 27, 2014, 05:05:02 AM
Nikola Tesla was a great visionary and technological genius, I can't begin to comprehend his unique and higher intellect when it comes to technology and science.
That being said he was a utopian fool in economics, and insane when it came to his social life (married a pigeon or something). I wouldn't trust him in any government position, the government is not science despite what utopian communists believe one expert or even 100,000 experts are not as smart as 1,000,000 citizens and it is wholly impossible to predict the needs and consumer patterns to a degree you could plan in it all in a state owned economy and make it work. We have been there before, it's called socialism.
Besides we already basically have a energy that is practically limitless and nearly free by the laws of economics, and that is oil. First they said in 20 years we would run out of oil, then 50 years, then 100 years, then 200 years, and now they finally admit they don't know. Lets use oil and bring about economic prosperity instead of just talking about hypothetical utopias.
I could not disagree more. Yes, we do have an energy source that is literally without any sort of limit, but it's not oil. It is nuclear. The sooner all parties get this fact through their heads, the better off we all shall be.
And of course.
Milorad Čavić
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milorad_%C4%8Cavi%C4%87 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milorad_%C4%8Cavi%C4%87)
Milorad Čavić (Serbian Cyrillic: Милорад Чавић, pronounced [mîloraːd tʃǎːʋitɕ]; born May 31, 1984) is a retired US-born Serbian swimmer.
Born in Anaheim, California and a citizen of both Serbia and the United States, he attended Tustin High School in California, where he set four CIF records and a national high school mark in the 50 yd freestyle. While swimming for the University of California, Berkeley and training with Mike Bottom, Čavić set a new school and Pac-10 record in the 100 yd butterfly (45.44 s).
Catherine Oxenberg
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Oxenberg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Oxenberg)
Catherine Oxenberg (Serbian: Катарина Оксенберг, born September 22, 1961) is an American actress best known for her performance as Amanda Carrington on the 1980s prime time soap opera Dynasty. The daughter of Princess Elizabeth of Yugoslavia, Oxenberg, though not noble or royal herself, is a descendant of the Serbian House of Karađorđević. She has dual citizenship, American and Serbian.