Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 04:07:27 PM
that website is mostly restaurants. Odds are they were likely gonna go out of business anyway.

What do you think drove manufacturing out of the United States?  It wasn't the weather.

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But thanks for the link. It's mostly anecdotal.

They're real businesses with real employees, and real business owners.  The disdain for small business by you Bernie guys is unreal.


https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/12/15/restaurants-closing-minimum-wage-increase/

Quote"It's bittersweet. It's been 14 years. It's been a good run," said Phil Courey, the owner of Opa! Opa! Greek restaurant in East Sacramento.

Courey has been at his location on J street since 2006 and was set to close on Sunday until the community stepped in and begged him on social media to stay open.

QuoteMeanwhile, another popular Sacramento restaurant closed under pressure.

In South Sacramento, Perry's restaurant along Highway 99 served their final meals on Sunday. Some customers who lined up for the last meal were dismayed.

"It's really sad just thinking about this," Patricia Smith said. "It's an institution. This is a Sacramento institution."

For years, Perry's was the go-to place for cops, truckers and customers looking for late-night eats. Paul Fraga bought the business from the original owner 10 years ago.

Every one of those businesses in that facesof15 was an established business.


https://conservativehardliner.com/bernies-minimum-wage-dumpster-fire

Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 04:09:49 PM
Re-read what I wrote. You're asking me that because you misread it.

Why not raise the minimum wage to $50 per hour?

Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 04:11:33 PM


No. What kinda question is that?

If you're getting minimum wage and I'm getting minimum wage it doesn't matter who has more kids. We're both still getting minimum wage.

What kind of question is that???? Here is what you said """I was advocating for a living wage. """ Now if you are advocating for a living wage as you said, then would you pay someone more who has four kids than someone who has no kids? You made the comment on reply 55.

Quote from: taxed on January 16, 2020, 04:19:43 PM
What do you think drove manufacturing out of the United States?  It wasn't the weather.

https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/12/15/restaurants-closing-minimum-wage-increase/

I knew the guy who owned that restaurant, nice guy, great food, but he couldn't compete with Govt.
Now all those long time employees were forced to find new jobs and he and his entire family as well.

https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/12/15/restaurants-closing-minimum-wage-increase/

Quote from: s3779m on January 16, 2020, 04:22:07 PM
What kind of question is that???? Here is what you said """I was advocating for a living wage. """ Now if you are advocating for a living wage as you said, then would you pay someone more who has four kids than someone who has no kids? You made the comment on reply 55.

He forgot he moved the goal post, turned around and ran smack dab right into it!

Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2020, 04:23:22 PM


I knew the guy who owned that restaurant, nice guy, great food, but he couldn't compete with Govt.
Now all those long time employees were forced to find new jobs and he and his entire family as well.

https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/12/15/restaurants-closing-minimum-wage-increase/

I can't imagine having Joe's mentality.  I think about all the work and sweat that guy must have put into it.  Joe thinks he was going out of business anyway.  Incredible.

Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2020, 04:15:44 PM
No, you originally advocated for a living wage!

Now, stop avoiding the  elephant in the room!

You still haven't addressed my point about raising a min wage to a living wage and how it will effect the entry level employee.

Yes. a living wage is enough for 1 person to maintain themselves with a full-time job. How much money do you think that takes?

Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2020, 04:25:06 PM
He forgot he moved the goal post, turned around and ran smack dab right into it!

I'm guessing he's not getting much sleep.  Hope his son turns out to be ultra conservative.    Just kidding Joe.

Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2020, 04:19:01 PM
So you' re OK with killing off new business?

New businesses spring up every day.

Quote from: taxed on January 16, 2020, 04:19:43 PM
What do you think drove manufacturing out of the United States?  It wasn't the weather.


They're real businesses with real employees, and real business owners.  The disdain for small business by you Bernie guys is unreal.


https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/12/15/restaurants-closing-minimum-wage-increase/





Every one of those businesses in that facesof15 was an established business.


https://conservativehardliner.com/bernies-minimum-wage-dumpster-fire

Wasn't it globalization?

Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 04:28:55 PM
New businesses spring up every day.

Third time asking: why not raise the minimum wage to $50?

Quote from: taxed on January 16, 2020, 04:20:37 PM
Why not raise the minimum wage to $50 per hour?

Who's advocating for that?

Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 04:31:17 PM
Who's advocating for that?

Why not?  Wouldn't that work?

Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 04:27:51 PM
Yes. a living wage is enough for 1 person to maintain themselves with a full-time job. How much money do you think that takes?

But that is just the point. A living wage for one FAMILY is not the same as for another family. You do want the government involved, right?

Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 04:27:51 PM
Yes. a living wage is enough for 1 person to maintain themselves with a full-time job. How much money do you think that takes?

You tell me, you're the one advocating for it.