Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2020, 03:25:34 PM
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!
A living wage would be around $20 plus an hour in many states. Now ask yourself, if someone is comfortable making that wage, and the company more than likely will be maxed out on openings, how is an entry level kid supposed to get a shot at a job?
There is an answer, and it's been floated for decades. Create an entry level wage half that amount. Problem is, it works and the Dims aren't looking for solutions, Period! No, they need to create as many victims as possible.
When are you going to wake to the fact that all these Marxist policies are not designed to help, only hurt business?

Joe thinks the cost of living in San Francisco is the same as Birmingham.  I swear, I'd pull my hair out after 5 minutes in at a Bernie campaign event.

Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 03:19:04 PM
I don't know if it is or isn't. Do you want to provide some research for me?

Taco Bell could raise their minimum wage with no impact on employment if they so chose. A smaller, less profitable business may not be able to.

https://www.facesof15.com/

Quote from: taxed on January 16, 2020, 03:45:18 PM
Joe thinks the cost of living in San Francisco is the same as Birmingham.  I swear, I'd pull my hair out after 5 minutes in at a Bernie campaign event.

That explains Bernies hair cut.

Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2020, 03:46:48 PM


That explains Bernies hair cut.

Joe, why not raise wages to $50 per hour?

Quote from: taxed on January 16, 2020, 03:49:15 PM
Joe, why not raise wages to $50 per hour?

Man, can you imagine? We'd have zero unemployment for about a week, then? Our economy would collapse. That right there should be proof enough that Govt interference kills jobs.

Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2020, 03:25:34 PM
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!
A living wage would be around $20 plus an hour in many states. Now ask yourself, if someone is comfortable making that wage, and the company more than likely will be maxed out on openings, how is an entry level kid supposed to get a shot at a job?
There is an answer, and it's been floated for decades. Create an entry level wage half that amount. Problem is, it works and the Dims aren't looking for solutions, Period! No, they need to create as many victims as possible.
When are you going to wake to the fact that all these Marxist policies are not designed to help, only hurt business?

Maybe if you want to live somewhat comfortably. In Miami,FL for example, you need almost $18 as a single person. In Miami,IN $15 is perfect.

https://www.epi.org/resources/budget/

I know people that get roommates, and are creative and made due with less. But my point is that they can take care of themselves.

So, I'm not advocating for comfort or a $15 federal minimum wage. I'm advocating for a Studio apartment or an efficiency. No real amenities, but at least you're not living in the street or having to work 2 jobs to maintain.

Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 03:55:02 PM
Maybe if you want to live somewhat comfortably. In Miami,FL for example, you need almost $18 as a single person. In Miami,IN $15 is perfect.

https://www.epi.org/resources/budget/

I know people that get roommates, and are creative and made due with less. But my point is that they can take care of themselves.

So, I'm not advocating for comfort or a $15 federal minimum wage. I'm advocating for a Studio apartment or an efficiency. No real amenities, but at least you're not living in the street or having to work 2 jobs to maintain.

No, now you're trying to move the goal post. You were advocating for a living wage, now you claim you just want comfort?

You still haven't addressed my point about raising a min wage to a living wage and how it will effect the entry level employee.

Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 03:55:02 PM
Maybe if you want to live somewhat comfortably. In Miami,FL for example, you need almost $18 as a single person. In Miami,IN $15 is perfect.

https://www.epi.org/resources/budget/

I know people that get roommates, and are creative and made due with less. But my point is that they can take care of themselves.

So, I'm not advocating for comfort or a $15 federal minimum wage. I'm advocating for a Studio apartment or an efficiency. No real amenities, but at least you're not living in the street or having to work 2 jobs to maintain.

Why do you deserve to live comfortably?

Quote from: taxed on January 16, 2020, 03:46:18 PM
https://www.facesof15.com/

Quotehttps://www.fsrmagazine.com/expert-takes/restaurant-profitability-and-failure-rates-what-you-need-know

Sixty percent of restaurants don't make it past their first year and 80 percent go out of business within five years.

that website is mostly restaurants. Odds are they were likely gonna go out of business anyway.

But thanks for the link. It's mostly anecdotal.

Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 03:55:02 PM
Maybe if you want to live somewhat comfortably. In Miami,FL for example, you need almost $18 as a single person. In Miami,IN $15 is perfect.

https://www.epi.org/resources/budget/

I know people that get roommates, and are creative and made due with less. But my point is that they can take care of themselves.

So, I'm not advocating for comfort or a $15 federal minimum wage. I'm advocating for a Studio apartment or an efficiency. No real amenities, but at least you're not living in the street or having to work 2 jobs to maintain.

Does the person with four kids make more than the person with no kids?

Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2020, 03:58:26 PM
No, now you're trying to move the goal post. You were advocating for a living wage, now you claim you just want comfort?

You still haven't addressed my point about raising a min wage to a living wage and how it will effect the entry level employee.

I was advocating for a living wage. That does not mean comfort. Please go back and re-read what I wrote.

Quote from: taxed on January 16, 2020, 04:04:08 PM
Why do you deserve to live comfortably?

Re-read what I wrote. You're asking me that because you misread it.

Quote from: s3779m on January 16, 2020, 04:08:43 PM
Does the person with four kids make more than the person with no kids?

No. What kinda question is that?

If you're getting minimum wage and I'm getting minimum wage it doesn't matter who has more kids. We're both still getting minimum wage.

Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 04:09:12 PM
I was advocating for a living wage. That does not mean comfort. Please go back and re-read what I wrote.

No, you originally advocated for a living wage!

Now, stop avoiding the  elephant in the room!

You still haven't addressed my point about raising a min wage to a living wage and how it will effect the entry level employee.

Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 04:07:27 PM
that website is mostly restaurants. Odds are they were likely gonna go out of business anyway.

But thanks for the link. It's mostly anecdotal.

So you' re OK with killing off new business?