What's y'alls take on this

Started by Possum, April 18, 2023, 12:16:20 PM

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https://nypost.com/2023/04/18/damar-hamlin-fully-cleared-to-rejoin-bills/

First off, I'm happy for him as I am sure most people are. But I can not help but think, doesn't this kinda prove that his collapse WAS from the jab? If this was from genetics, a bad heart, I do not think he could have found one Dr. to release him back to professional football, much less three. Am I seeing this backwards?


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I saw this and my first thought was, it's a death sentence.
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I'd like for him to confirm if he got the jab or not...  he obviously did because he's not allowed to talk about it, and I'm sure there's some deal allowing him to stay in the NFL in some capacity, but he needs to disclose it.
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Quote from: Possum on April 18, 2023, 12:16:20 PMhttps://nypost.com/2023/04/18/damar-hamlin-fully-cleared-to-rejoin-bills/

First off, I'm happy for him as I am sure most people are. But I can not help but think, doesn't this kinda prove that his collapse WAS from the jab? If this was from genetics, a bad heart, I do not think he could have found one Dr. to release him back to professional football, much less three. Am I seeing this backwards?


 Zen, I don't need your opinion.
 
It's a sad story when you see the life of a young man being used as a pawn.
I would suggest only one bit of advice to Mr. Hamlin, please consult with the best of the best on this issue -Dr. Peter McCullough - before committing to this decision.


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Hamlin is lucky the NFL has medical professionals onsite to assist when these freak accidents occur.

Sudden death of a young hockey player: case report of commotio cordis
B Deady et al. J Emerg Med. 1999 May-Jun


Despite the use of protective gear, a 15-year-old hockey player died when he was struck in the chest by a puck. This is the fifth recorded hockey death related to so-called commotio cordis, that is, blunt chest injury without myocardial structural damage. In light of inadequacies of commercial chest protectors currently in use for hockey, the authors hope to educate players and coaches about the danger of blocking shots with the chest. Physicians should be aware that commotio cordis represents a distinctive pathological condition, in the event of which immediate recognition, precordial thump, CPR, and defibrillation are potentially lifesaving. Appropriate medical supervision at amateur hockey games, 911 telephone access, and on-site automated external defibrillators are issues that deserve careful consideration.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10338239/#:~:text=Despite%20the%20use%20of%20protective,injury%20without%20myocardial%20structural%20damage.
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Solar

Yet you fail to ask, why now? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Quote from: Solar on May 01, 2023, 05:35:11 AMYet you fail to ask, why now? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
EXACTLY, hasn't there ALWAYS been hockey pucks? Did they players never get hit before?? Every time I read his posts I am reminded, sh-t for brains is a fatal disease.

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Quote from: Possum on May 01, 2023, 06:26:44 AMEXACTLY, hasn't there ALWAYS been hockey pucks? Did they players never get hit before?? Every time I read his posts I am reminded, sh-t for brains is a fatal disease.
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Quote from: Solar on May 01, 2023, 05:35:11 AMYet you fail to ask, why now? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Blows to the chest, causing dangerous heart events, isn't anything new.  It happened in the NHL to Chris Pronger in 1998 when a slap shot hit him in the heart, also.  The story above is from 1999.

Commotio cordis most commonly results from an impact to the left chest with a hardball (e.g., a baseball) during sports activity. The sudden focal distortion of the myocardium results in ventricular fibrillation, causing sudden cardiac arrest in an otherwise structurally normal heart. It is distinct from a traumatic injury to the heart, like cardiac contusion or rupture or penetrating chest injuries.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK526014/#:~:text=Commotio%20cordis%20most%20commonly%20results,an%20otherwise%20structurally%20normal%20heart.

Ventricular Fibrillation
Ventricular fibrillation, or VF, is considered the most serious abnormal heart rhythm. VF is extremely dangerous and can lead to sudden cardiac death. Without treatment, the condition is fatal within minutes.

Disordered electrical activity causes the heart's lower chambers (ventricles) to quiver instead of contracting (or beating) normally. This prohibits the heart from pumping blood, causing collapse and cardiac arrest.


https://www.heart.org/en/health-topics/arrhythmia/about-arrhythmia/ventricular-fibrillation
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Solar

No one said it was new, scientists/doctors discovered the phenomena in the 30s, but it wasn't until the Jabb that we saw a huge increase of reported deaths.
This doesn't take a genius to see a corollary connection. Too many, too often.
And don't think you play your spin game on this BS, because no one gives a shit what you pretend to believe.
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Quote from: Solar on May 01, 2023, 09:11:42 AMNo one said it was new, scientists/doctors discovered the phenomena in the 30s, but it wasn't until the Jabb that we saw a huge increase of reported deaths.
This doesn't take a genius to see a corollary connection. Too many, too often.
And don't think you play your spin game on this BS, because no one gives a shit what you pretend to believe.
How would the vaccine cause more physical trauma to the left side of athletes' chests?
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Solar

Quote from: ZenMode on May 01, 2023, 10:21:09 AMHow would the vaccine cause more physical trauma to the left side of athletes' chests?
Ever shot a window with a gun? Please tell me, you really aren't this dumb...
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Quote from: Solar on May 01, 2023, 10:39:03 AMEver shot a window with a gun? Please tell me, you really aren't this dumb...
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Quote from: Solar on May 01, 2023, 12:42:11 PMI assume you said something?
First time he knew what he was talking about.  :lol:  :lol: