Yep, I got it before it even hit the Snooze.
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Investigation on Reedley building uncovers bio, health hazards
A code enforcement checkup leads to the discovery of an illegal lab, COVID-19 and pregnancy test kits, infectious agents and upwards of 1,000 white mice at 850 I Street
Snipped from the article.
While these investigations were being conducted, Reedley officials and FCDPH repeatedly made attempts to speak to representatives from Prestige. Court documents identify Xiuquin Yao as the alleged president of Prestige. Neither Reedley nor FCDPH was able to obtain from Yao any substantive information regarding Prestige or why infectious agents and mice were being stored at 850 I Street other than to say that the company was developing diagnostic testing kits.
Court documents describe Prestige as the successor to Universal Meditech, Inc., a now-bankrupt medical equipment manufacturer located in Fresno. When Universal filed for bankruptcy, Prestige was its largest creditor. It is not clear if Prestige assumed Universal's liabilities and took over its operation.
https://midvalleytimes.com/article/news/2023/07/25/investigation-on-reedley-building-uncovers-bio-health-hazards/
https://twitter.com/LeadingReport/status/1685458339902189573
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BREAKING: A study conducted by scientists at the University of Colorado confirms the vast majority of humanity has gotten the COVID vaccine via "shedding," whether they wanted it or not.
Abstract
Despite the obvious knowledge that infectious particles can be shared through respiration, whether other constituents of the nasal/oral fluids can be passed between hosts has surprisingly never even been postulated, let alone investigated. The circumstances of the present pandemic facilitated a unique opportunity to fully examine this provocative idea. The data we show provides evidence for a new mechanism by which herd immunity may be manifested, the aerosol transfer of antibodies between immune and non-immune hosts.
Introduction
The vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 have maintained remarkable efficacy against severe disease and death in those vaccinated regardless of variant emergence, Omicron included 1. Less appreciated than the systemic immunity generated by the vaccines are the high levels of antibody (IgG and IgA) found within the nasal cavity and saliva of vaccinees. This outcome is found in both humans and primates, and in response to both mRNA and protein-based vaccines 2,3. Respiratory transmission of viral infection is proof that oral/nasal cavity constituents can be communicated through aerosols and/or respiratory droplets. As such, it would stand to reason that antibody present within the oral/nasal environment may also be aerosolized to some degree.
Results
The extended mandates for mask wearing in both social and work environments provided a unique opportunity to evaluate the possibility of aerosolized antibody expiration from vaccinated individuals. Utilizing a flow cytometry-based Multiplex Microsphere Immunoassay (MMIA) to detect SARS-CoV-2-specific antibodies (Fig 1A and B) 4,5 and a method previously used to elute antibody from rehydrated dried blood spots (DBS), we identified anti-SARS-CoV-2 specific antibodies eluted from surgical face masks worn by vaccinated lab members donated at the end of one workday. Consistent with the results reported by others, we identified both IgG and IgA in saliva from vaccinated individuals (Fig 1C and D). It was therefore not surprising to detect both IgG and IgA following elution of antibody from face masks (Fig 1C and D).
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.04.28.22274443v1.full
Universal Meditech, Inc was still operating in Fresno, CA as of 2022 when this recall was issued (https://www.fda.gov/safety/recalls-market-withdrawals-safety-alerts/universal-meditech-inc-issues-nationwide-recall-skippack-medical-lab-sars-cov-2-antigen-rapid-test)
Some time between late 2022 and today, UMI went out of business and their stuff was apparently acquired by Prestige, who was their biggest creditor (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-believe-fresno-warehouse-was-site-illegal-laboratory-rcna96756). Prestige/UMI moved all of their crap to the Reedly warehouse, where it now sits in piles
I don't see how this "illegal" laboratory, that didn't exist until 2023, could be the source of Covid in CA.
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Quote from: ZenMode on July 31, 2023, 09:50:40 AMUniversal Meditech, Inc was still operating in Fresno, CA as of 2022 when this recall was issued (https://www.fda.gov/safety/recalls-market-withdrawals-safety-alerts/universal-meditech-inc-issues-nationwide-recall-skippack-medical-lab-sars-cov-2-antigen-rapid-test)
Some time between late 2022 and today, UMI went out of business and their stuff was apparently acquired by Prestige, who was their biggest creditor (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-believe-fresno-warehouse-was-site-illegal-laboratory-rcna96756). Prestige/UMI moved all of their crap to the Reedly warehouse, where it now sits in piles
I don't see how this "illegal" laboratory, that didn't exist until 2023, could be the source of Covid in CA.
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Of course you don't.
Quote from: ZenMode on July 31, 2023, 09:50:40 AMUniversal Meditech, Inc was still operating in Fresno, CA as of 2022 when this recall was issued (https://www.fda.gov/safety/recalls-market-withdrawals-safety-alerts/universal-meditech-inc-issues-nationwide-recall-skippack-medical-lab-sars-cov-2-antigen-rapid-test)
Some time between late 2022 and today, UMI went out of business and their stuff was apparently acquired by Prestige, who was their biggest creditor (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-believe-fresno-warehouse-was-site-illegal-laboratory-rcna96756). Prestige/UMI moved all of their crap to the Reedly warehouse, where it now sits in piles
I don't see how this "illegal" laboratory, that didn't exist until 2023, could be the source of Covid in CA.
(https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-560w,f_auto,q_auto:best/rockcms/2023-07/230727-fresno-warehouse-laboratory-court-file-ac-609p-7b6990.jpg)
Regardless, they still operated an illegal Bio lab.
https://californiaglobe.com/articles/reedley-chinese-covid-lab-received-tax-credit-of-360000-from-gov-newsoms-go-biz/
Reedley Chinese COVID Lab Received Tax Credit of $360,000 From Gov. Newsom's 'GO-Biz'
CDC conducted found more than 800 chemicals at the site and over 20 infectious agents
By Adina Flores, August 2, 2023 4:56 pm
At the epicenter of current controversy, an illegal California lab run by a Chinese biotech firm, Prestige Biotech, was recently discovered in a warehouse in Reedley, California. The lab contained mice which were genetically engineered to spread COVID-19.
According to National Review, "court documents further showed that the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) conducted tests on the more than 800 chemicals found at the site and that over 20 infectious agents were found present, including Hepatitis B and C, streptococcus pneumonia, chlamydia, rubella, and Herpes 1 and 5." As a federal investigation is underway, where will the money trail lead us?
As recently discovered, Prestige Biotech is registered in the State of Nevada, but unlicensed to conduct business within the State of California. Code enforcement officials from the City of Reedley spoke to Xiuqin Yao, President of Prestige Biotech, as identified via emails and court documents. Ms. Yao informed authorities that the company was the largest creditor of Universal Meditech (UMI), Inc. which filed for bankruptcy. UMI had been relocated from the City of Fresno to the Reedley warehouse following an electrical fire, and when UMI ceased operations. According to NBC News, "Prestige Biotech was a creditor to UMI and identified as its successor, according to court documents."
A document released on March 24, 2019 by Governor Newsom's Office of Business and Economic Development, a California Competes tax credit allocation agreement of $360,000 was cemented with UMI.
Quote from: Solar on August 05, 2023, 01:26:27 PMRegardless, they still operated an illegal Bio lab.
https://californiaglobe.com/articles/reedley-chinese-covid-lab-received-tax-credit-of-360000-from-gov-newsoms-go-biz/
Reedley Chinese COVID Lab Received Tax Credit of $360,000 From Gov. Newsom's 'GO-Biz'
CDC conducted found more than 800 chemicals at the site and over 20 infectious agents
By Adina Flores, August 2, 2023 4:56 pm
At the epicenter of current controversy, an illegal California lab run by a Chinese biotech firm, Prestige Biotech, was recently discovered in a warehouse in Reedley, California. The lab contained mice which were genetically engineered to spread COVID-19.
According to National Review, "court documents further showed that the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) conducted tests on the more than 800 chemicals found at the site and that over 20 infectious agents were found present, including Hepatitis B and C, streptococcus pneumonia, chlamydia, rubella, and Herpes 1 and 5." As a federal investigation is underway, where will the money trail lead us?
As recently discovered, Prestige Biotech is registered in the State of Nevada, but unlicensed to conduct business within the State of California. Code enforcement officials from the City of Reedley spoke to Xiuqin Yao, President of Prestige Biotech, as identified via emails and court documents. Ms. Yao informed authorities that the company was the largest creditor of Universal Meditech (UMI), Inc. which filed for bankruptcy. UMI had been relocated from the City of Fresno to the Reedley warehouse following an electrical fire, and when UMI ceased operations. According to NBC News, "Prestige Biotech was a creditor to UMI and identified as its successor, according to court documents."
A document released on March 24, 2019 by Governor Newsom's Office of Business and Economic Development, a California Competes tax credit allocation agreement of $360,000 was cemented with UMI.
Right. I don't know if it's illegal to store chemicals and infectious agents, but it was reported that the only thing that appeared to be manufactured there were pregnancy and COVID tests. Still illegal but not very exciting.
Quote from: ZenMode on August 05, 2023, 02:16:49 PMRight. I don't know if it's illegal to store chemicals and infectious agents, but it was reported that the only thing that appeared to be manufactured there were pregnancy and COVID tests. Still illegal but not very exciting.
That was the guise they went under. Can you never discern the truth for yourself?
Why did an invitro materials manufacturer need infected mice?
Quote from: Solar on August 05, 2023, 02:40:08 PMThat was the guise they went under. Can you never discern the truth for yourself?
Why did an invitro materials manufacturer need infected mice?
It was a guide for what? Link?
Quote from: ZenMode on August 05, 2023, 03:04:46 PMIt was a guide for what? Link?
"GUISE"! Not guide! Your post claimed they were making invitro utensils for sale, that was a "Guise" A Ruse, a lie, it's how they conned their way into the State, then once underway, the Fed and State turned a blind eye as they created a Bioweapons lab!
Quote from: Solar on August 06, 2023, 06:42:33 AM"GUISE"! Not guide! Your post claimed they were making invitro utensils for sale, that was a "Guise" A Ruse, a lie, it's how they conned their way into the State, then once underway, the Fed and State turned a blind eye as they created a Bioweapons lab!
Right. Autocorrect made it guide.
Link for all your claims?
Quote from: ZenMode on August 06, 2023, 07:05:28 AMRight. Autocorrect made it guide.
Link for all your claims?
Had you been actually paying attention to what I posted, instead of emotionally posting knee jerking responses, you'd have seen it!
Now take a moment and reread the damn thread, I'm not doing your work for you!
Quote from: Solar on August 06, 2023, 07:13:41 AMHad you been actually paying attention to what I posted, instead of emotionally posting knee jerking responses, you'd have seen it!
Now take a moment and reread the damn thread, I'm not doing your work for you!
Ok I read it again. Nothing seems different. Premier was storing old UMI stuff in a CA warehouse and doing illegal work - aka making pregnancy and COVID tests. Where your evidence of it being guise for something else?
Quote from: ZenMode on August 06, 2023, 07:19:58 AMOk I read it again. Nothing seems different. Premier was storing old UMI stuff in a CA warehouse and doing illegal work - aka making pregnancy and COVID tests. Where your evidence of it being guise for something else?
Since when does a utensil lab have infected rats?
Quote from: Solar on August 06, 2023, 07:31:31 AMSince when does a utensil lab have infected rats?
As the article said, Prestige took control of everything UMI had when it closed down. UMI was more that just a utensil/pregnancy/COVID test manufacturing business.
Quote from: ZenMode on August 06, 2023, 07:42:51 AMAs the article said, Prestige took control of everything UMI had when it closed down. UMI was more that just a utensil/pregnancy/COVID test manufacturing business.
So you want us to believe it was Prestige that was manufacturing Bio Weapons? :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
Quote from: Solar on August 06, 2023, 11:53:09 AMSo you want us to believe it was Prestige that was manufacturing Bio Weapons? :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
Bio weapons? There's no evidence of bio weapons.
Quote from: ZenMode on August 06, 2023, 12:04:25 PMBio weapons? There's no evidence of bio weapons.
Now you want to focus on this shit after getting your ass handed to you?
Look at the list of the diseases the mice were carrying and tell me this was a fuckin invitro lab!
Yes, it was posted, so get off your lazy ass and learn!
Quote from: Solar on August 06, 2023, 12:07:11 PMNow you want to focus on this shit after getting your ass handed to you?
Look at the list of the diseases the mice were carrying and tell me this was a fuckin invitro lab!
Yes, it was posted, so get off your lazy ass and learn!
Got to admit, he plays stupid better than anyone. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Quote from: Solar on August 06, 2023, 12:07:11 PMNow you want to focus on this shit after getting your ass handed to you?
Look at the list of the diseases the mice were carrying and tell me this was a fuckin invitro lab!
Yes, it was posted, so get off your lazy ass and learn!
One man's infectious agents is another man's bio weapon, I guess. Lol...
Quote from: ZenMode on August 06, 2023, 01:32:50 PMOne man's infectious agents is another man's bio weapon, I guess. Lol...
Did you even read what these mice are in infected with?
It has zero to do with invitro research!!!
Quote from: Possum on August 06, 2023, 12:50:27 PMGot to admit, he plays stupid better than anyone. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
PLAYS? :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
Quote from: Solar on August 06, 2023, 08:06:53 PMDid you even read what these mice are in infected with?
It has zero to do with invitro research!!!
According to the CDC, the mice were infected with HIV, COVID, Chlamidia, malaria....
Three-fourths of the mice had to be killed because they were so badly neglected. Not exactly signs of work mean to create bio weapons. I mean, they could have let the infected mice go, at the very least, right?
Quote from: ZenMode on August 07, 2023, 06:23:59 AMAccording to the CDC, the mice were infected with HIV, COVID, Chlamidia, malaria....
Three-fourths of the mice had to be killed because they were so badly neglected. Not exactly signs of work mean to create bio weapons. I mean, they could have let the infected mice go, at the very least, right?
Do you ever read anything counter to your programming? of course you do, that's why you posted that quote without a representative link. You hope to confuse our readership.
From the OP...
Your need to obscure the truth goes well beyond obfuscation as your need to obscure people's understanding by concealing the truth by confusion. You don't debate, you obfuscate!
The shit you pull is blatant lying, and that shit needs to come to a fuckin end, NOW!!!! Do I make Myself Clear?Over 900 mice were located at the facility. Court documents identify Wang Zhaolin as the Prestige representative onsite during the investigation. Zhaolin informed the investigators that "these mice were genetically engineered to catch and carry the COVID-19 virus." Court documents describe the conditions under which the mice were housed as "inhumane."
Under the auspices of an abatement order, Reedley officials conducted a follow-up investigation to 850 I Street on April 12. As a result of this investigation, and on the advice of a veterinarian who accompanied investigators, the decision was made to euthanize 773 mice. Investigators also discovered 178 dead mice on the property.
Court documents confirm Prestige never contracted with a licensed medical waste hauler to dispose of medical wastes – including the mice – per state regulations; which means from October 2022 until the lab was shuttered, Prestige was illegally disposing of medical wastes generated by the lab.
From May 2 through May 4, the CDC's Division of Select Agents and Toxins inspected 850 I Street. Court documents confirm the CDC found potentially infectious agents at the location. These included both bacterial and viral agents, including: chlamydia, E. Coli, streptococcus pneumonia, hepatitis B and C, herpes 1 and 5 and rubella. The CDC also found samples of malaria.
Quote from: Solar on August 07, 2023, 06:53:34 AMDo you ever read anything counter to your programming? of course you do, that's why you posted that quote without a representative link. You hope to confuse our readership.
From the OP...
Your need to obscure the truth goes well beyond obfuscation as your need to obscure people's understanding by concealing the truth by confusion. You don't debate, you obfuscate!
The shit you pull is blatant lying, and that shit needs to come to a fuckin end, NOW!!!! Do I make Myself Clear?
Over 900 mice were located at the facility. Court documents identify Wang Zhaolin as the Prestige representative onsite during the investigation. Zhaolin informed the investigators that "these mice were genetically engineered to catch and carry the COVID-19 virus." Court documents describe the conditions under which the mice were housed as "inhumane."
Under the auspices of an abatement order, Reedley officials conducted a follow-up investigation to 850 I Street on April 12. As a result of this investigation, and on the advice of a veterinarian who accompanied investigators, the decision was made to euthanize 773 mice. Investigators also discovered 178 dead mice on the property.
Court documents confirm Prestige never contracted with a licensed medical waste hauler to dispose of medical wastes – including the mice – per state regulations; which means from October 2022 until the lab was shuttered, Prestige was illegally disposing of medical wastes generated by the lab.
From May 2 through May 4, the CDC's Division of Select Agents and Toxins inspected 850 I Street. Court documents confirm the CDC found potentially infectious agents at the location. These included both bacterial and viral agents, including: chlamydia, E. Coli, streptococcus pneumonia, hepatitis B and C, herpes 1 and 5 and rubella. The CDC also found samples of malaria.
Quote from: Solar on August 07, 2023, 06:53:34 AMDo you ever read anything counter to your programming? of course you do, that's why you posted that quote without a representative link. You hope to confuse our readership.
From the OP...
Your need to obscure the truth goes well beyond obfuscation as your need to obscure people's understanding by concealing the truth by confusion. You don't debate, you obfuscate!
The shit you pull is blatant lying, and that shit needs to come to a fuckin end, NOW!!!! Do I make Myself Clear?
Over 900 mice were located at the facility. Court documents identify Wang Zhaolin as the Prestige representative onsite during the investigation. Zhaolin informed the investigators that "these mice were genetically engineered to catch and carry the COVID-19 virus." Court documents describe the conditions under which the mice were housed as "inhumane."
Under the auspices of an abatement order, Reedley officials conducted a follow-up investigation to 850 I Street on April 12. As a result of this investigation, and on the advice of a veterinarian who accompanied investigators, the decision was made to euthanize 773 mice. Investigators also discovered 178 dead mice on the property.
Court documents confirm Prestige never contracted with a licensed medical waste hauler to dispose of medical wastes – including the mice – per state regulations; which means from October 2022 until the lab was shuttered, Prestige was illegally disposing of medical wastes generated by the lab.
From May 2 through May 4, the CDC's Division of Select Agents and Toxins inspected 850 I Street. Court documents confirm the CDC found potentially infectious agents at the location. These included both bacterial and viral agents, including: chlamydia, E. Coli, streptococcus pneumonia, hepatitis B and C, herpes 1 and 5 and rubella. The CDC also found samples of malaria.
I posted basically the same list of viruses, etc that you did. How would anyone be confused about that?
Genetically modifying mice/animals is normal is research labs. It can be dangerous, but it's normal.
What makes these mice a "bio weapon"?
Quote from: ZenMode on August 07, 2023, 07:46:36 AMI posted basically the same list of viruses, etc that you did. How would anyone be confused about that?
Genetically modifying mice/animals is normal is research labs. It can be dangerous, but it's normal.
What makes these mice a "bio weapon"?
Did you not heed my warning?
Quote from: Solar on August 07, 2023, 08:08:04 AMDid you not heed my warning?
About providing links? My bad:
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tested the substances and detected at least 20 potentially infectious agents, including coronavirus, HIV, hepatitis and herpes, according to a Health and Human Services letter dated June 6.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-believe-fresno-warehouse-was-site-illegal-laboratory-rcna96756This wasn't the same list I had earlier, but I couldn't find that link.
I'm not sure why you'd trust the CDC, anyway... :rolleyes:
Quote from: ZenMode on August 07, 2023, 08:11:55 AMAbout providing links? My bad:
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tested the substances and detected at least 20 potentially infectious agents, including coronavirus, HIV, hepatitis and herpes, according to a Health and Human Services letter dated June 6.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-believe-fresno-warehouse-was-site-illegal-laboratory-rcna96756
This wasn't the same list I had earlier, but I couldn't find that link.
I'm not sure why you'd trust the CDC, anyway... :rolleyes:
You still haven't explained why an Invitro company would be testing mice with the CCP Flu!
Quote from: Solar on August 07, 2023, 08:14:37 AMYou still haven't explained why an Invitro company would be testing mice with the CCP Flu!
It's pretty clear that they weren't operating on the up-and-up. The fire department found non-permitted wiring and walls (https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article277946553.html). They also apparently had financial issues, hence Prestige basically taking them over, and they may have been doing things that were outside of their stated company profile description.
There's a big jump from doing things outside of what their profile said and the claim they are creating bio weapons.
Quote from: ZenMode on August 07, 2023, 08:31:11 AMIt's pretty clear that they weren't operating on the up-and-up. The fire department found non-permitted wiring and walls (https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article277946553.html). They also apparently had financial issues, hence Prestige basically taking them over, and they may have been doing things that were outside of their stated company profile description.
There's a big jump from doing things outside of what their profile said and the claim they are creating bio weapons.
So lets see if we get what you're trying to obfuscate about, MMM-K?
They lied and defrauded the State, the Fed, never had a business license for the shit they pulled, had actual viruses in a lab running under the guise of making Invitro equipment.
All of this during a lockdown of cities full of people scared to death to go outside for fear of catching a supposed to be "deadly" plague.
Yeah, what were we thinking? :rolleyes:
The CCP Flu is a Bio Weapon, you stupid lib!!!
Have you been living under a rock for the last year?
Quote from: ZenMode on August 07, 2023, 08:31:11 AMIt's pretty clear that they weren't operating on the up-and-up. The fire department found non-permitted wiring and walls (https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article277946553.html). They also apparently had financial issues, hence Prestige basically taking them over, and they may have been doing things that were outside of their stated company profile description.
There's a big jump from doing things outside of what their profile said and the claim they are creating bio weapons.
Just keeps getting better and better...
Before going bankrupt, Universal Meditech was awarded its business license from the Newsom administration, "exactly one year to the day before Gov. Gavin Newsom's State of Emergency Order locking down the entire state over the COVID-19 virus."
Universal Meditech continued operations under its new owner Prestige Biotech, which didn't have a state business license and was only outed when someone noticed a garden hose illegally attached to the bio-lab's building.
The nearly 1,000 dead mice found at the Prestige Biotech lab, "were genetically engineered to catch and carry the Covid-19 virus," Wang Zhaolin, a spokesman for Prestige Biotech, told the San Joaquin Valley Sun.
"This is an unusual situation," said Nicole Zieba, a city official with the town of Reedley, where the lab was found.
"I've been in government for 25 years. I've never seen anything like this," Zieba told local news outlet KTLA. "There was a special room that was built housing about 1,000 white lab mice."
Those would be the same lab mice that "were genetically engineered to catch and carry the Covid-19 virus" housed in a secret warehouse owned by reported CCP United Front agents. The same company that manufactured 54,000 FDA-flagged COVID rapid tests and received hundreds of thousands of dollars from Newsom's office a year before he put California on a lockdown enforced by his and the Biden administration's tyrannical mandates.
"Allowing a Chinese company to practice gain-of-function research on our shores is like inviting biological warfare into our backyard," said Rep. Mark Green, R-Tenn., who chairs the House Homeland Security Committee.
Based on legal filings, business reports and court documents, it appears that the CCP's United Front accepted the invitation. Meanwhile, with his entourage of CCP connections funded by his administration in line, Newsom reportedly is raising millions to back a potential 2024 presidential run, even as he continues to publicly back Biden.
https://headlineusa.com/newsom-funded-chinese-covid-biolab-known-to-bidens-fda/
I'm still not entirely sure what is being alleged regarding UMI, China and Covid. Is the claim that China developed COVID in the UMI warehouse and released it?
Quote from: ZenMode on August 09, 2023, 11:05:57 AMI'm still not entirely sure what is being alleged regarding UMI, China and Covid. Is the claim that China developed COVID in the UMI warehouse and released it?
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Yes, it was developed in a lab in Wuhan. The rest of the timeline has yet to be released as the investigation moves foreword.
Now Nucelinni is in trouble because the article is referencing his multi million dollar buy of test kits from this company.
Always follow the money!
Quote from: Solar on August 09, 2023, 11:48:49 AM'
Yes, it was developed in a lab in Wuhan. The rest of the timeline has yet to be released as the investigation moves foreword.
Now Nucelinni is in trouble because the article is referencing his multi million dollar buy of test kits from this company.
Always follow the money!
Did China release the virus on itself, and decimating it's economy, before or after transporting it to UMI?
Quote from: ZenMode on August 09, 2023, 01:38:43 PMDid China release the virus on itself, and decimating it's economy, before or after transporting it to UMI?
What part of
"The rest of the timeline has yet to be released as the investigation moves foreword." Do you not get?
Quote from: ZenMode on August 09, 2023, 11:05:57 AMI'm still not entirely sure what is being alleged regarding UMI, China and Covid. Is the claim that China developed COVID in the UMI warehouse and released it?
Maybe this will make you ask the Right questions, instead of running block for these Marxists.
Here's the timeline....
Quote from: Solar on August 27, 2023, 06:01:14 AMMaybe this will make you ask the Right questions, instead of running block for these Marxists.
Here's the timeline....
Here's my snarky response:
I'm confused. I've been told that the pandemic didn't exist and that people were dying with covid, not from covid, yet this guy is saying the opposite. Why would you trust someone so dishonest?
Here's my real response:
Two things can be true at one. One is that the government, at all levels, needs much better transparency. Two, the existence of this lab has absolutely nothing to do with when covid arrived in California... because, again, Covid began in 2020 and this place didn't exist until 2022.
Quote from: ZenMode on August 28, 2023, 06:35:25 AMHere's my snarky response:
I'm confused. I've been told that the pandemic didn't exist and that people were dying with covid, not from covid, yet this guy is saying the opposite. Why would you trust someone so dishonest?
Here's my real response:
Two things can be true at one. One is that the government, at all levels, needs much better transparency. Two, the existence of this lab has absolutely nothing to do with when covid arrived in California... because, again, Covid began in 2020 and this place didn't exist until 2022.
Tell me again, how you still think this wasn't a Bio Weapon!
https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/ccp-virus-and-vaccine-bio-weapon/pandemic-was-a-military-bioterrorism-project/msg508354/#new
Quote from: Solar on August 28, 2023, 06:41:31 AMTell me again, how you still think this wasn't a Bio Weapon!
https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/ccp-virus-and-vaccine-bio-weapon/pandemic-was-a-military-bioterrorism-project/msg508354/#new
Nope. I'm staying on topic.
The lab is concerning.
The lack of transparency is concerning.
The possibility of hazardous waste being dumbed in a landfill is concerning.
Covid began in Wuhan in 2020 and got to the US long before this illegal lab existed, so there is no reason to believe that this illegal lab was involved.
Quote from: ZenMode on August 28, 2023, 06:58:43 AMNope. I'm staying on topic.
The lab is concerning.
The lack of transparency is concerning.
The possibility of hazardous waste being dumbed in a landfill is concerning.
Covid began in Wuhan in 2020 and got to the US long before this illegal lab existed, so there is no reason to believe that this illegal lab was involved.
Well, we certainly know they had a "Jabb" a decade earlier to treat it.
What does that tell ya?
And yes, read the other article, it is on topic!
Quote from: Solar on August 28, 2023, 03:09:11 PMWell, we certainly know they had a "Jabb" a decade earlier to treat it.
What does that tell ya?
And yes, read the other article, it is on topic!
China, just within the last 24 hours, stopped requiring tests for tourists coming to China. They didn't have a stable economy before COVID, which is where COVID started. Are you saying that China intentionally decimated its economy, which is still struggling to recover, to take some kind of shot at the US.
Quote from: ZenMode on August 29, 2023, 06:19:36 AMChina, just within the last 24 hours, stopped requiring tests for tourists coming to China. They didn't have a stable economy before COVID, which is where COVID started. Are you saying that China intentionally decimated its economy, which is still struggling to recover, to take some kind of shot at the US.
Are you saying the CCP didn't try and help kill off the US?
Quote from: Solar on August 29, 2023, 10:05:28 AMAre you saying the CCP didn't try and help kill off the US?
I'm saying that China, if the Covid pandemic was their "plan", have got to be among the dumbest, most incompetent countries on the face of the earth.
Translated from Chinese:
"Ok guys, here the plan. We going to develop a virus that only kills old and fat people, release it on ourselves, crush our economy, implement draconian lockdowns, cause riots and otherwise set our country back at least 10 years.... Oh, and we're going to release it in the US."
Meanwhile, the people of China are like:
(https://img.freepik.com/premium-photo/young-chinese-man-looking-puzzled-confused-stressed-wondering-different-options-feeling-uncertain-against-flat-color-wall_1194-38793.jpg)
Quote from: ZenMode on August 29, 2023, 02:09:53 PMI'm saying that China, if the Covid pandemic was their "plan", have got to be among the dumbest, most incompetent countries on the face of the earth.
Translated from Chinese:
"Ok guys, here the plan. We going to develop a virus that only kills old and fat people, release it on ourselves, crush our economy, implement draconian lockdowns, cause riots and otherwise set our country back at least 10 years.... Oh, and we're going to release it in the US."
Meanwhile, the people of China are like:
(https://img.freepik.com/premium-photo/young-chinese-man-looking-puzzled-confused-stressed-wondering-different-options-feeling-uncertain-against-flat-color-wall_1194-38793.jpg)
Don't matter what the subject, you are going to guess to prove your point. Don't work.
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2023, 02:14:27 PMDon't matter what the subject, you are going to guess to prove your point. Don't work.
Do you disagree that the virus was spreading as a pandemic in China long before it was a known issue in the US?
Quote from: ZenMode on August 29, 2023, 02:17:35 PMDo you disagree that the virus was spreading as a pandemic in China long before it was a known issue in the US?
Only if you are naïve enough to believe U.S scientist were not working side by side with the Chinese scientist.
Only if you are naïve enough to believe that the U.S. did not fund any of this research.
Only if you are naïve enough to believe that China did not shut down cities in order to hide hideous unemployment numbers.
Only if you are naïve enough to believe that the democrats did not see the oncoming lockdowns as a chance to illegally change voting laws to keep Trump from getting elected again.
Only if you are naïve enough to believe to a huge part of the pandemic was to force a jab that was developed before the virus on people.
Only if you are naïve enough to believe that huge part of shutdowns was to ruin the best economy the U.S. has seen.
Only if you are naïve enough to believe that liberal people in charge saw and used the opportunity of the pandemic to further their own hold in government.
Ask yourself, why did we see video and pictures of people dropping dead in the middle of the streets in China?
Ask yourself, why was there so much flip flopping on masks, distancing, shutdowns?
Ask yourself, why was the pandemic played up so bad, hospitals were adding tents to house a wave that never came? Why were ships sent to cites that were never used?
Ask yourself, why were infected people sent into nursing homes to infect the sick and elderly?
Ask yourself, why were places where people go to gather and talk, churches, bars, sports, shut down while other places were not?
Ask yourself, why was it still ok to riot?
Are you naïve enough to believe that when the democrats called Trump raciest for blocking travel from China into the U.S. they were being honest?
Are you naïve enough to believe this was a mistake? Happened by accident?
Are you naïve enough to believe that everything the democrats did was in our best interest?
Are you naïve enough to believe that the sole purpose of the jab, and the reason it is still being pushed, was to save lives?
I'm not that naïve. I can see evidence from multiple sources and put two and two together. So to answer your question, no, the U.S. was in on this from the beginning.
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2023, 02:57:13 PMOnly if you are naïve enough to believe U.S scientist were not working side by side with the Chinese scientist.
Only if you are naïve enough to believe that the U.S. did not fund any of this research.
Only if you are naïve enough to believe that China did not shut down cities in order to hide hideous unemployment numbers.
Only if you are naïve enough to believe that the democrats did not see the oncoming lockdowns as a chance to illegally change voting laws to keep Trump from getting elected again.
Only if you are naïve enough to believe to a huge part of the pandemic was to force a jab that was developed before the virus on people.
Only if you are naïve enough to believe that huge part of shutdowns was to ruin the best economy the U.S. has seen.
Only if you are naïve enough to believe that liberal people in charge saw and used the opportunity of the pandemic to further their own hold in government.
Ask yourself, why did we see video and pictures of people dropping dead in the middle of the streets in China?
Ask yourself, why was there so much flip flopping on masks, distancing, shutdowns?
Ask yourself, why was the pandemic played up so bad, hospitals were adding tents to house a wave that never came? Why were ships sent to cites that were never used?
Ask yourself, why were infected people sent into nursing homes to infect the sick and elderly?
Ask yourself, why were places where people go to gather and talk, churches, bars, sports, shut down while other places were not?
Ask yourself, why was it still ok to riot?
Are you naïve enough to believe that when the democrats called Trump raciest for blocking travel from China into the U.S. they were being honest?
Are you naïve enough to believe this was a mistake? Happened by accident?
Are you naïve enough to believe that everything the democrats did was in our best interest?
Are you naïve enough to believe that the sole purpose of the jab, and the reason it is still being pushed, was to save lives?
I'm not that naïve. I can see evidence from multiple sources and put two and two together. So to answer your question, no, the U.S. was in on this from the beginning.
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2023, 02:57:13 PMOnly if you are naïve enough to believe U.S scientist were not working side by side with the Chinese scientist.
Only if you are naïve enough to believe that the U.S. did not fund any of this research.
Only if you are naïve enough to believe that China did not shut down cities in order to hide hideous unemployment numbers.
Only if you are naïve enough to believe that the democrats did not see the oncoming lockdowns as a chance to illegally change voting laws to keep Trump from getting elected again.
Only if you are naïve enough to believe to a huge part of the pandemic was to force a jab that was developed before the virus on people.
Only if you are naïve enough to believe that huge part of shutdowns was to ruin the best economy the U.S. has seen.
Only if you are naïve enough to believe that liberal people in charge saw and used the opportunity of the pandemic to further their own hold in government.
Ask yourself, why did we see video and pictures of people dropping dead in the middle of the streets in China?
Ask yourself, why was there so much flip flopping on masks, distancing, shutdowns?
Ask yourself, why was the pandemic played up so bad, hospitals were adding tents to house a wave that never came? Why were ships sent to cites that were never used?
Ask yourself, why were infected people sent into nursing homes to infect the sick and elderly?
Ask yourself, why were places where people go to gather and talk, churches, bars, sports, shut down while other places were not?
Ask yourself, why was it still ok to riot?
Are you naïve enough to believe that when the democrats called Trump raciest for blocking travel from China into the U.S. they were being honest?
Are you naïve enough to believe this was a mistake? Happened by accident?
Are you naïve enough to believe that everything the democrats did was in our best interest?
Are you naïve enough to believe that the sole purpose of the jab, and the reason it is still being pushed, was to save lives?
I'm not that naïve. I can see evidence from multiple sources and put two and two together. So to answer your question, no, the U.S. was in on this from the beginning.
Soooo.....Do you disagree that the virus was spreading as a pandemic in China long before it was a known issue in the US?
Quote from: ZenMode on August 29, 2023, 02:09:53 PMI'm saying that China, if the Covid pandemic was their "plan", have got to be among the dumbest, most incompetent countries on the face of the earth.
Translated from Chinese:
"Ok guys, here the plan. We going to develop a virus that only kills old and fat people, release it on ourselves, crush our economy, implement draconian lockdowns, cause riots and otherwise set our country back at least 10 years.... Oh, and we're going to release it in the US."
Meanwhile, the people of China are like:
(https://img.freepik.com/premium-photo/young-chinese-man-looking-puzzled-confused-stressed-wondering-different-options-feeling-uncertain-against-flat-color-wall_1194-38793.jpg)
Wait, you think they used our "JABBBB"? :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
Damn, you really are an ignorant twat! :rolleyes:
Quote from: ZenMode on August 29, 2023, 03:23:20 PMSoooo.....Do you disagree that the virus was spreading as a pandemic in China long before it was a known issue in the US?
To quote from my posting that you must not have read,
QuoteSo to answer your question, no, the U.S. was in on this from the beginning.
Put it another way, this was planned, and rehearsed. I will go one step further, and take a wild ass guess, I would not be surprised if we don't find out there were multiple other labs around the world where the virus also "escaped".
Quote from: ZenMode on August 29, 2023, 02:17:35 PMDo you disagree that the virus was spreading as a pandemic in China long before it was a known issue in the US?
Hey Gumby, I had it 3 months before the media talked about it, as did most in Ca.
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2023, 03:40:58 PMTo quote from my posting that you must not have read, Put it another way, this was planned, and rehearsed. I will go one step further, and take a wild ass guess, I would not be surprised if we don't find out there were multiple other labs around the world where the virus also "escaped".
Ca comes to mind. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2023, 03:40:58 PMTo quote from my posting that you must not have read, Put it another way, this was planned, and rehearsed. I will go one step further, and take a wild ass guess, I would not be surprised if we don't find out there were multiple other labs around the world where the virus also "escaped".
The great part about imagination is that there's no limit to what you can come up with!
Quote from: ZenMode on August 29, 2023, 03:56:20 PMThe great part about imagination is that there's no limit to what you can come up with!
Since we are asking questions, do you think the U.S. and China were the only two countries researching gain of function with covid?
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2023, 04:08:03 PMSince we are asking questions, do you think the U.S. and China were the only two countries researching gain of function with covid?
"COVID" is a very generic term. There are many forms of coronavirus in humans and many more in animals. It seems highly unlikely that only 2 countries have been doing GoF research on some kind of Covid.
Quote from: ZenMode on August 29, 2023, 04:53:26 PM"COVID" is a very generic term. There are many forms of coronavirus in humans and many more in animals. It seems highly unlikely that only 2 countries have been doing GoF research on some kind of Covid.
Great answer for the wishey washey, the key term was "gain of function", not covid. BUT, don't bother answering, trying to have a discussion with you usually ain't worth the trouble.
Quote from: ZenMode on August 29, 2023, 02:17:35 PMDo you disagree that the virus was spreading as a pandemic in China long before it was a known issue in the US?
Here's a timeline, and it supports those on the Right. Watch it and tell us what's wrong. It's short.
https://gab.com/bobby2themax/posts/110916079867995400/media/1?timeline=video
Quote from: Solar on September 01, 2023, 04:53:41 AMHere's a timeline, and it supports those on the Right. Watch it and tell us what's wrong. It's short.
https://gab.com/bobby2themax/posts/110916079867995400/media/1?timeline=video
That is one possibility. Here's what actually happened, according to the DoD:
The USASPENDING.gov website shows the government contract with Black & Veatch and its subcontract with Labyrinth Global Health on November 12, 2019, with the description in the "Sub-Awards" category including "SME [subject matter expert] MANUSCRIPT DOCUMENTATION AND COVID 19 RESEARCH".
The apparent contradiction highlighted by The Exposé comes because the first cases of what would later be called COVID-19 weren't discovered until early December 2019. The World Health Organization named the disease on February 11, 2020.
No crystal ball
So, how did the DOD know about COVID-19 before the rest of the world? It didn't. The original contract from November 12, 2019, was modified months later to include COVID research. In an April 20, 2022, email to Lead Stories, the DOD's Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA), which issued the contract, said:
QuoteNo, DOD did not award a contract in 2019 for COVID-19 research. In this case, DTRA's contractor modified a task order in 10 June 2020 to assist Ukraine in responding to the COVID-19 pandemic, many months after the pandemic had begun. However, the date in the database reflects the original date the Master Servicing Agreement was entered into the system.
Information from USASpending.gov reflects data from a Master Servicing Agreement, or MSA, which can be modified by the DOD over time to better address emerging issues through its ongoing contracts. Contractors frequently sign additional sub-awards through task orders. These task orders, too, can be modified or amended. The date of each modification is not reflected on the USASpending.gov page, which stays as the date the original MSA was entered into the system, but the description is updated to reflect the latest changes in the task order.
In the same email, the DTRA explained the process in greater detail:
QuoteThe Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) contracted with Black & Vea[t]ch to continue to support Ukraine's peaceful and safe biological detection and diagnostic capabilities and to reduce biological threats, whether they are naturally-occurring, accidental, or intentional, through the provision of equipment, supplies, and training. Black & Vea[t]ch signed the MSA with DTRA on 2 October, 2019, to modify DTRA's requested non-COVID training support, which was submitted to the procurement system on 12 November 2019. After the pandemic began, the MSA was modified to provide additional COVID-19 pandemic-related support to Ukraine on 25 April 2020 and again on 12 June 2020. The task order directed the servicing contractor to provide high-level subject matter expert mentorship support on COVID-19 Laboratory Diagnosis, Biological Safety and Laboratory Emergency Response in Ukraine.
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2022/04/fact-check-department-of-defense-did-not-award-contract-for-covid-19-research-in-ukraine-3-months-before-virus-was-known.html
Quote from: Solar on August 29, 2023, 03:40:21 PMWait, you think they used our "JABBBB"? :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
Damn, you really are an ignorant twat! :rolleyes:
I just saw this but, no, I don't for a second think China, or many foreign countries, used our vaccine. I didn't even mention the vaccine in anything I said.
Quote from: ZenMode on September 01, 2023, 07:26:50 AMThat is one possibility. Here's what actually happened, according to the DoD:
The USASPENDING.gov website shows the government contract with Black & Veatch and its subcontract with Labyrinth Global Health on November 12, 2019, with the description in the "Sub-Awards" category including "SME [subject matter expert] MANUSCRIPT DOCUMENTATION AND COVID 19 RESEARCH".
The apparent contradiction highlighted by The Exposé comes because the first cases of what would later be called COVID-19 weren't discovered until early December 2019. The World Health Organization named the disease on February 11, 2020.
No crystal ball
So, how did the DOD know about COVID-19 before the rest of the world? It didn't. The original contract from November 12, 2019, was modified months later to include COVID research. In an April 20, 2022, email to Lead Stories, the DOD's Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA), which issued the contract, said:
In the same email, the DTRA explained the process in greater detail:
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2022/04/fact-check-department-of-defense-did-not-award-contract-for-covid-19-research-in-ukraine-3-months-before-virus-was-known.html
So we're po believe hey actually updated a document from 2019? :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
You'll believe anything hey feed you! :rolleyes:
Quote from: Solar on September 01, 2023, 08:26:04 AMSo we're po believe hey actually updated a document from 2019? :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
You'll believe anything hey feed you! :rolleyes:
Why wouldn't/couldn't they update it?
Quote from: Solar on September 01, 2023, 08:26:04 AMSo we're po believe hey actually updated a document from 2019? :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
You'll believe anything hey feed you! :rolleyes:
Hey, they sprinkled fairy dust on it this time, now it's believable. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: ZenMode on September 01, 2023, 08:36:53 AMWhy wouldn't/couldn't they update it?
I have to ask, with all the lies the LSM and democrats have told the American people, why do you go to them for sources? Do you believe everything Jean-Pierre tells the press?
Quote from: ZenMode on September 01, 2023, 10:58:51 AMI don't trust anything from any news source. They all lie, misrepresent and present opinion as fact.
Jean-Pierre's job is to lie on demand.
In this case, it isn't about trusting a specific media source. It's about what ultimately makes the most sense and seems like the most reasonable and likely answer.
But I have yet to see you take any stance other than the one the government puts out. Just as an example, those in charge of medical opinions for the handling of covid, did several 180 degree turns. For starters they changed the definition of what a vaccination is for the purpose of calling the jab a vaccine, followed by masks were bad, no distancing no lockdowns and later endorsed all of those in their gameplan. And you still back them, worse, you still push their agenda. Why?
Quote from: ZenMode on September 01, 2023, 10:58:51 AMI don't trust anything from any news source. They all lie, misrepresent and present opinion as fact.
Jean-Pierre's job is to lie on demand.
In this case, it isn't about trusting a specific media source. It's about what ultimately makes the most sense and seems like the most reasonable and likely answer.
Yet you use Reuters with impunity, as if the core of leftist media carries any credibility.
You've used the lying "Factcheck" media site as if it even as an inkling of credibility in support of your arguments, then have the audacity to claim OANN is not a trusted news site. :rolleyes:
We've asked over and over, why do you carry the Marxists water against American culture?
All the evidence is on display, that they plan of a communist style fascist Govt in the end.
Why do you support that?
Quote from: Solar on September 02, 2023, 05:34:43 AMYet you use Reuters with impunity, as if the core of leftist media carries any credibility.
You've used the lying "Factcheck" media site as if it even as an inkling of credibility in support of your arguments, then have the audacity to claim OANN is not a trusted news site. :rolleyes:
We've asked over and over, why do you carry the Marxists water against American culture?
All the evidence is on display, that they plan of a communist style fascist Govt in the end.
Why do you support that?
I don't believe in trusting any one news sources. I also don't believe in trusting news sources simply because they are saying something different than a mainstream news source or have a convoluted narrative.
It's about trying to figure out the truth and, if you can't, trying to figured out as much of the truth as you can and changing my opinion when new info comes out.
Quote from: ZenMode on September 02, 2023, 07:08:14 AMI don't believe in trusting any one news sources. I also don't believe in trusting news sources simply because they are saying something different than a mainstream news source or have a convoluted narrative.
It's about trying to figure out the truth and, if you can't, trying to figured out as much of the truth as you can and changing my opinion when new info comes out.
Either you're delusional, or support the Marxist movement!
There are two sources of news, left or Right, and we know based on evidence, the LSM lies with impunity and supported by the Marxist narrative running through their core.
While the Right runs against the leftist narrative, yet you want to claim you're somehow able to see past both sides?
Tell me, do you even have any core values where the US culture is concerned?
Based on what the left is doing to our Nation, why is it you don't stand against their plan for global domination?
Quote from: Solar on September 02, 2023, 07:32:22 AMEither you're delusional, or support the Marxist movement!
There are two sources of news, left or Right, and we know based on evidence, the LSM lies with impunity and supported by the Marxist narrative running through their core.
While the Right runs against the leftist narrative, yet you want to claim you're somehow able to see past both sides?
Tell me, do you even have any core values where the US culture is concerned?
Based on what the left is doing to our Nation, why is it you don't stand against their plan for global domination?
I could post links to websites that are as far left as this one is right. On those sites, Republicans are referred to as fascist, totalitarian and dictators. Do I think there are people on both sides who have fascist, Marxist or totalitarian ideas and intentions? Yes. But I don't ascribe evil intentions to everyone on the left or right because of a few bad apples I think there are bad ideas. Universal basic income is a bad idea. Disallowing abortion even in a situation of rape I think is a bad idea, but if you listen to the reasoning of the people who support these ideas, you will hear that they are not coming from a place of evil intent. They actually have good intentions even if the ideas are bad.
But, in order to understand the other side, you have to be open to listening to them and actually be open to the possibility that they aren't evil Marxist or totalitarians or whatever else.
Quote from: ZenMode on September 02, 2023, 08:14:07 AMI could post links to websites that are as far left as this one is right. On those sites, Republicans are referred to as fascist, totalitarian and dictators. Do I think there are people on both sides who have fascist, Marxist or totalitarian ideas and intentions? Yes. But I don't ascribe evil intentions to everyone on the left or right because of a few bad apples I think there are bad ideas. Universal basic income is a bad idea. Disallowing abortion even in a situation of rape I think is a bad idea, but if you listen to the reasoning of the people who support these ideas, you will hear that they are not coming from a place of evil intent. They actually have good intentions even if the ideas are bad.
But, in order to understand the other side, you have to be open to listening to them and actually be open to the possibility that they aren't evil Marxist or totalitarians or whatever else.
No, there is but one party, the Uniparty, and yes, a majority of the GOP Establishment IS Evil and Corrupt and fascist corporatist warmongers!
As to your abortion BS, it is solely a States Rights issue, roe was a unconstitutional decision, and SCOTUS finally addressed it based on the Constitution, it was never to be decided on emotion, as they did!
And the DNC is doing all they can to bring about the WEF's version of the "New World Order", or have you forgotten Obozos speech on "Fundamentally Changing America"?
How in the fuck do you not see it for what it is?
Dude, I've been living politics and history for over 4 decades, I pay far more attention to what is going on than you will ever understand.
Quote from: ZenMode on September 02, 2023, 08:14:07 AMI could post links to websites that are as far left as this one is right. On those sites, Republicans are referred to as fascist, totalitarian and dictators. Do I think there are people on both sides who have fascist, Marxist or totalitarian ideas and intentions? Yes. But I don't ascribe evil intentions to everyone on the left or right because of a few bad apples I think there are bad ideas. Universal basic income is a bad idea. Disallowing abortion even in a situation of rape I think is a bad idea, but if you listen to the reasoning of the people who support these ideas, you will hear that they are not coming from a place of evil intent. They actually have good intentions even if the ideas are bad.
But, in order to understand the other side, you have to be open to listening to them and actually be open to the possibility that they aren't evil Marxist or totalitarians or whatever else.
Despite your claims that all media lies, there is truth being provided, like that of he actual source of the evidence, the County.
Are you going to attempt to claim all their evidence is a lie as well?
Scroll through the actual investigation, images at the bottom!
https://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Fresno-Chinese-Labs-California-Public-Records-Act-2023.pdf
It was pretty much a shell game...
Behind a Secret Chinese Biolab in California, a Global Web of Connections
Chinese companies related to the biolab have a troubling history in the United States, Canada, Hong Kong, and a handful of other countries.
Jessie Zhu's Operations
Mr. Zhu was born in China in 1961 and obtained a Bachelor of Science degree from the Beijing University Medical Department in 1984 and a master's degree from the Peking Union Medical College Hospital in 1988. He went on to conduct bio research at the University of British Columbia in Canada, according to Sina Finance.
In 1991, Mr. Zhu established IND Dairytech Ltd in Vancouver and became chairman of the board.
In the late 1990s, Mr. Zhu flew a dozen Holstein cattle (a breed known for high milk production) from Quebec to Beijing to enhance milk production in China, where it was in great need.
A decade later, Mr. Zhu's focus switched to breeding technologies. Rather than transporting cattle to China, IND Dairytech began sending Holstein semen and embryos in an effort to develop cattle herds.
Primarily serving customers in Canada, IND Dairytech was listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange in 2008, delisted in 2011, and acquired shortly afterward by IND Lifetech, another company controlled by Mr. Zhu.
The Chinese characters of "Ai De" are also in the upper left corner of IND Lifetech's logo.
Not long after IND Lifetech acquired IND Dairytech, it changed its name to JingJing Genetics, still based in Canada and controlled by Mr. Zhu.
In 2008, JingJing Genetics was sued by XY LLC, a Colorado-based company that claimed damages for "conspiracy, deceit, breach of confidence, breach of contract, and inducing breach of contract."
XY had developed the technology to "choose the sex of the offspring using sexed semen or sexed embryos" for "non-human mammals, including cattle, horses, pigs, and endangered species," according to an online statement.
The company was "the master licensee in control of all sperm sorting in non-human mammals worldwide."
JingJing Genetics was allegedly stealing XY's technology to manufacture and sell bovine sexed semen, but without the strict controls required from a licensee.
The case was decided in 2012, with the judge ruling against JingJing Genetics for violating intellectual property agreements.
It's a long article, but it exposes sooo much. H/T to Epochtimes.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/article/behind-a-secret-chinese-biolab-in-california-a-global-web-of-connections-5498112?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge&src_src=partner&src_cmp=ZeroHedge