House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy said Saturday he plans to hold a hearing where he will call for testimony from the 51 intel agents who signed a letter calling the Hunter Biden laptop story Russian disinformation.
McCarthy said during an appearance on Fox News that it is "egregious what we're finding" about the censorship of the story from the "Twitter files" and also criticized members of the intelligence community who downplayed the story.
https://news.yahoo.com/mccarthy-plans-subpoena-intel-agents-142813435.html
How will he do that, when he's not going to be Speaker?
Quote from: Solar on December 13, 2022, 03:38:23 AMHow will he do that, when he's not going to be Speaker?
I know, am I supposed to believe that he is suddenly not a RINO? That he is suddenly gonna take down the very deepstate he is a part of?
No. More likely he wants to be in control of the investigation so he can let them all off the hook.
Quote from: T Hunt on December 13, 2022, 06:34:03 AMI know, am I supposed to believe that he is suddenly not a RINO? That he is suddenly gonna take down the very deepstate he is a part of?
No. More likely he wants to be in control of the investigation so he can let them all off the hook.
Nailed it!!!
Like Katie Hobbs certifying her own election. :sneaky:
Quote from: Solar on December 13, 2022, 09:31:05 AMNailed it!!!
Like Katie Hobbs certifying her own election. :sneaky:
I bet the rinos hate this forum. :thumbsup: :thumbup: :lol:
Quote from: ZenMode on December 13, 2022, 01:57:26 AMHouse GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy said Saturday he plans to hold a hearing where he will call for testimony from the 51 intel agents who signed a letter calling the Hunter Biden laptop story Russian disinformation.
Here's the list. Just trying to be helpful.
https://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2022/03/named-and-shamed-the-51-intel-officials-who-lied-about-the-hunter-biden-laptop-emails/
1. Mike Hayden, former CIA director, now analyst for CNN
2. Jim Clapper, former director of national intelligence, now CNN pundit
3. Leon Panetta, former CIA director and defense secretary
4. John Brennan, former CIA director, now analyst for NBC and MSNBC
5. Thomas Fingar, former National Intelligence Council chair, now teaches at Stanford University
6. Rick Ledgett, former National Security Agency deputy director, now a director at M&T Bank
7. John McLaughlin, former CIA acting director, now teaches at Johns Hopkins University
8. Michael Morell, former CIA acting director, now at George Mason University
9. Mike Vickers, former defense undersecretary for intelligence, now on board of BAE Systems
10. Doug Wise, former Defense Intelligence Agency deputy director, teaches at University of New Mexico
11. Nick Rasmussen, former National Counterterrorism Center director,
now executive director, Global Internet Forum to Counter Terrorism
12. Russ Travers, former National Counterterrorism Center acting director
13. Andy Liepman, former National Counterterrorism Center deputy director
14. John Moseman, former CIA chief of staf
15. Larry Pfeiffer, former CIA chief of staff, now senior advisor to The Chertoff Group
16. Jeremy Bash, former CIA chief of staff, now analyst for NBC and MSNBC
17. Rodney Snyder, former CIA chief of staff
18. Glenn Gerstell, former National Security Agency general counsel
19. David Priess, former CIA analyst and manager
20. Pam Purcilly, former CIA deputy director of analysis
21. Marc Polymeropoulos, former CIA senior operations officer
22. Chris Savos, former CIA senior operations officer
23. John Tullius, former CIA senior intelligence officer
24. David A. Vanell, former CIA senior operations officer
25. Kristin Wood, former CIA senior intelligence officer, now non-resident fellow, Harvard
26. David Buckley, former CIA inspector general
27. Nada Bakos, former CIA analyst and targeting officer, now senior fellow, Foreign Policy Research Institute
28. Patty Brandmaier, former CIA senior intelligence officer
29. James B. Bruce, former CIA senior intelligence office
30. David Cariens, former CIA intelligence analyst
31. Janice Cariens, former CIA operational support officer
32. Paul Kolbe, former CIA senior operations officer
33. Peter Corsell, former CIA analyst
34. Brett Davis, former CIA senior intelligence officer
35. Roger Zane George, former national intelligence officer:
36. Steven L. Hall, former CIA senior intelligence officer
37. Kent Harrington, former national intelligence officer
38. Don Hepburn, former national security executive, now president of Boanerges Solutions LLC
39. Timothy D. Kilbourn, former dean of CIA's Kent School of Intelligence Analysis
40. Ron Marks, former CIA officer
41. Jonna Hiestand Mendez, former CIA technical operations officer,
now on board of the International Spy Museum
42. Emile Nakhleh, former director of CIA's Political Islam Strategic Analysis Program,
now at University of New Mexico
43. Gerald A. O'Shea, former CIA senior operations officer
44. Nick Shapiro, former CIA deputy chief of staff and senior adviser to the director
45. John Sipher, former CIA senior operations officer
46. Stephen Slick, former National Security Council senior director for intelligence programs
47. Cynthia Strand, former CIA deputy assistant director for global issues
48. Greg Tarbell, former CIA deputy executive director
49. David Terry, former National Intelligence Collection Board chairman
50. Greg Treverton, former National Intelligence Council chair,
now senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies
51. Winston Wiley, former CIA director of analysis
Quote from: Possum on December 16, 2022, 11:25:55 AMI bet the rinos hate this forum. :thumbsup: :thumbup: :lol:
They do do, they despise us, which is why google keeps us off the top searches.
They're all one big family. And we're just the unwanted step children, with matches, gasoline and an incontrollable seething anger. :biggrin:
Quote from: je_freedom on December 22, 2022, 09:21:53 PMHere's the list. Just trying to be helpful.
https://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2022/03/named-and-shamed-the-51-intel-officials-who-lied-about-the-hunter-biden-laptop-emails/
1. Mike Hayden, former CIA director, now analyst for CNN
2. Jim Clapper, former director of national intelligence, now CNN pundit
3. Leon Panetta, former CIA director and defense secretary
4. John Brennan, former CIA director, now analyst for NBC and MSNBC
5. Thomas Fingar, former National Intelligence Council chair, now teaches at Stanford University
6. Rick Ledgett, former National Security Agency deputy director, now a director at M&T Bank
7. John McLaughlin, former CIA acting director, now teaches at Johns Hopkins University
8. Michael Morell, former CIA acting director, now at George Mason University
9. Mike Vickers, former defense undersecretary for intelligence, now on board of BAE Systems
10. Doug Wise, former Defense Intelligence Agency deputy director, teaches at University of New Mexico
11. Nick Rasmussen, former National Counterterrorism Center director,
now executive director, Global Internet Forum to Counter Terrorism
12. Russ Travers, former National Counterterrorism Center acting director
13. Andy Liepman, former National Counterterrorism Center deputy director
14. John Moseman, former CIA chief of staf
15. Larry Pfeiffer, former CIA chief of staff, now senior advisor to The Chertoff Group
16. Jeremy Bash, former CIA chief of staff, now analyst for NBC and MSNBC
17. Rodney Snyder, former CIA chief of staff
18. Glenn Gerstell, former National Security Agency general counsel
19. David Priess, former CIA analyst and manager
20. Pam Purcilly, former CIA deputy director of analysis
21. Marc Polymeropoulos, former CIA senior operations officer
22. Chris Savos, former CIA senior operations officer
23. John Tullius, former CIA senior intelligence officer
24. David A. Vanell, former CIA senior operations officer
25. Kristin Wood, former CIA senior intelligence officer, now non-resident fellow, Harvard
26. David Buckley, former CIA inspector general
27. Nada Bakos, former CIA analyst and targeting officer, now senior fellow, Foreign Policy Research Institute
28. Patty Brandmaier, former CIA senior intelligence officer
29. James B. Bruce, former CIA senior intelligence office
30. David Cariens, former CIA intelligence analyst
31. Janice Cariens, former CIA operational support officer
32. Paul Kolbe, former CIA senior operations officer
33. Peter Corsell, former CIA analyst
34. Brett Davis, former CIA senior intelligence officer
35. Roger Zane George, former national intelligence officer:
36. Steven L. Hall, former CIA senior intelligence officer
37. Kent Harrington, former national intelligence officer
38. Don Hepburn, former national security executive, now president of Boanerges Solutions LLC
39. Timothy D. Kilbourn, former dean of CIA's Kent School of Intelligence Analysis
40. Ron Marks, former CIA officer
41. Jonna Hiestand Mendez, former CIA technical operations officer,
now on board of the International Spy Museum
42. Emile Nakhleh, former director of CIA's Political Islam Strategic Analysis Program,
now at University of New Mexico
43. Gerald A. O'Shea, former CIA senior operations officer
44. Nick Shapiro, former CIA deputy chief of staff and senior adviser to the director
45. John Sipher, former CIA senior operations officer
46. Stephen Slick, former National Security Council senior director for intelligence programs
47. Cynthia Strand, former CIA deputy assistant director for global issues
48. Greg Tarbell, former CIA deputy executive director
49. David Terry, former National Intelligence Collection Board chairman
50. Greg Treverton, former National Intelligence Council chair,
now senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies
51. Winston Wiley, former CIA director of analysis
I only recognize a few names on this list but the ones I am familiar with are people with reputations for integrity. I am surprised that a conspiracy of this size and scope could be credible.
So I guess I should believe the allegation pending actual credible proof. I think I will hold judgement until there is actual evidence. I've always been skeptical of the laptop story because it seemed too convenient to be true. I'll wait and see what happens.
Quote from: Tory Potter on December 23, 2022, 12:19:41 PMI only recognize a few names on this list but the ones I am familiar with are people with reputations for integrity. I am surprised that a conspiracy of this size and scope could be credible.
So I guess I should believe the allegation pending actual credible proof. I think I will hold judgement until there is actual evidence. I've always been skeptical of the laptop story because it seemed too convenient to be true. I'll wait and see what happens.
Wait, you still think the Hunter laptop is conspiray? :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
Quote from: Solar on December 23, 2022, 12:56:08 PMWait, you still think the Hunter laptop is conspiray? :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
He's still withholding judgement on whether Trudeau is a socialist. :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Possum on December 23, 2022, 01:07:03 PMHe's still withholding judgement on whether Trudeau is a socialist. :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Well top be fair, Turdeau is a communist. :bigl
Quote from: Solar on December 23, 2022, 01:08:34 PM:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Well top be fair, Turdeau is a communist. :bigl
SHHHHHHHH! He still thinks Trudeau stands for democracy.................Hell, same thing. :lol:
Quote from: Possum on December 23, 2022, 01:57:31 PMSHHHHHHHH! He still thinks Trudeau stands for democracy.................Hell, same thing. :lol:
:biggrin:
Castro. Like Father Like son...
Quote from: Tory Potter on December 23, 2022, 12:19:41 PMI only recognize a few names on this list but the ones I am familiar with are people with reputations for integrity. I am surprised that a conspiracy of this size and scope could be credible.
So I guess I should believe the allegation pending actual credible proof. I think I will hold judgement until there is actual evidence. I've always been skeptical of the laptop story because it seemed too convenient to be true. I'll wait and see what happens.
What that SHOULD tell you is,
how MUCH the "news" media has been lying to everyone for the last several decades!
I know people who, when they talk about the news,
used to say things like, "Well that don't make no sense!"
And it DIDN'T make any sense until they learned one thing:
The news ALWAYS makes PERFECT sense if you remember this one fact:
THE DEMOCRATS
ALWAYS LIE!
And the "news" media ALWAYS helps them by lying for them!
The people that you thought had reputations for integrity
NEVER DID DESERVE THOSE REPUTATIONS!
I was a civilian employee of the U.S. Air Force for fifteen years.
I saw first hand, every day, for all of those years,
how MUCH those managers lie!
Air Force manager is about the LAST person in the world
I would EVER trust with ANYTHING!
Like the first name on the list - Michael Hayden.
Before he was CIA Director, he was an Air Force general.
The U.S. Air Force is a branch office of the D.C. swamp!
They systematically weed out everyone who has ANY integrity!
It was just revealed recently that hundreds of retired military officers
are now working as consultants FOR FOREIGN COUNTRIES!
U.S. military and intelligence officers have NO loyalty to America!
ALL of their loyalty is to whoever will pay them the highest reward
after they leave government employment!
They have NO loyalty to the Constitution,
which is designed to protect people's rights.
Their loyalty is to the global corporate collective,
which is ANOTHER FORM OF GOVERNMENT
(i.e. - a HOSTILE FOREIGN POWER !!!)
designed to EXPLOIT all the people of the world!
Here is a quotation that perfectly describes "our leaders' " guiding principle:
"The greater the crime perpetrated by the leadership, the less likely it is that
the people will ever believe their leaders to be capable of perpetrating such an event."
Adolf Hitler
Quote from: Tory Potter on December 23, 2022, 12:19:41 PMI only recognize a few names on this list but the ones I am familiar with are people with reputations for integrity
Name one.
QuoteI am surprised that a conspiracy of this size and scope could be credible.
So I guess I should believe the allegation pending actual credible proof.
You know the fake news has already retracted your position and have all admitted it's true, right?
QuoteI think I will hold judgement until there is actual evidence. I've always been skeptical of the laptop story because it seemed too convenient to be true. I'll wait and see what happens.
You know the FBI all admitted it's true, right? Even former FBI General Counsel James Baker, who slithered into the position at Twitter, was busted on this:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11555321/FBI-official-turned-Twitter-counsel-Jim-Baker-thanked-Bureau-suppressing-Hunter-Biden-laptop.html
https://freespoke.com/search/web?q=hunter+biden+laptop+retractions
You're not the brightest bulb in Canada, are you Tory?
Quote from: taxed on December 23, 2022, 06:09:43 PMName one.
Panetta
You know the fake news has already retracted your position and have all admitted it's true, right?
No, I don't know that. You are suggesting I trust the news?
You know the FBI all admitted it's true, right? Even former FBI General Counsel James Baker, who slithered into the position at Twitter, was busted on this:
No, I don't know that. Again, you are suggesting I trust the news?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11555321/FBI-official-turned-Twitter-counsel-Jim-Baker-thanked-Bureau-suppressing-Hunter-Biden-laptop.html
https://freespoke.com/search/web?q=hunter+biden+laptop+retractions
I don't trust the Daily News. It is a Brit tabloid. I never heard of "freespoke.com." It sounds sketchy.
You're not the brightest bulb in Canada, are you Tory?
No I'm not, but most bulbs are very bright in Canada, so the bar is high. :biggrin:
Like I said, I will wait to be convinced one way or another. Until then I'll keep an open mind.
Most of what I've learned about Hunter Biden was from Woodward and Costa's book Peril. It isn't what you would call friendly to President Trump, but there was some information about Hunter Biden's addiction issues.
Merry Christmas.
Would you believe a leftis rag?
The New York Times Admits Authenticity Of Hunter Biden's Laptop
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-new-york-times-admits-authenticity-of-hunter-biden-s-laptop/ar-AAVcQ2V
Quote from: Tory Potter on December 23, 2022, 07:22:16 PMPanetta
No, I don't know that. You are suggesting I trust the news?
No, I don't know that. Again, you are suggesting I trust the news?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11555321/FBI-official-turned-Twitter-counsel-Jim-Baker-thanked-Bureau-suppressing-Hunter-Biden-laptop.html
https://freespoke.com/search/web?q=hunter+biden+laptop+retractions
I don't trust the Daily News. It is a Brit tabloid. I never heard of "freespoke.com." It sounds sketchy.
No I'm not, but most bulbs are very bright in Canada, so the bar is high. :biggrin:
Like I said, I will wait to be convinced one way or another. Until then I'll keep an open mind.
Most of what I've learned about Hunter Biden was from Woodward and Costa's book Peril. It isn't what you would call friendly to President Trump, but there was some information about Hunter Biden's addiction issues.
Merry Christmas.
Your statements fit this definition...
sophistry (ˈsɒfɪstrɪ)
n, pl -ries
1. (Philosophy)
a. a method of argument that is seemingly plausible though actually invalid and misleading
b. the art of using such arguments
2. subtle but unsound or fallacious reasoning
Quote from: Tory Potter on December 23, 2022, 07:22:16 PMI will wait to be convinced one way or another.
I gave you proof! Are you running away again? :rolleyes:
This seems to be a recurring M/O of yours, so at what point are you going to admit there is evil on the left?
Quote from: Solar on December 28, 2022, 03:59:39 PMI gave you proof! Are you running away again? :rolleyes:
This seems to be a recurring M/O of yours, so at what point are you going to admit there is evil on the left?
Here's a wild ass theory, kids today are brainwashed so much in school, they are taught as much as what not to say as they are taught what to say. If they are told do not see evil in the socialist, they will not be able to see it in the democrat party. It could explain why they see nothing wrong with Biden telling twitter what to censor.
Quote from: Possum on December 28, 2022, 04:07:39 PMHere's a wild ass theory, kids today are brainwashed so much in school, they are taught as much as what not to say as they are taught what to say. If they are told do not see evil in the socialist, they will not be able to see it in the democrat party. It could explain why they see nothing wrong with Biden telling twitter what to censor.
True! It goes for Turdeau as well, hence his moniker. He does not see the evil being unleashed even in his own country, he sees nothing wrong with gun confiscation, despite history proving he's in trouble already.
Quote from: Solar on December 28, 2022, 04:10:46 PMTrue! It goes for Turdeau as well, hence his moniker. He does not see the evil being unleashed even in his own country, he sees nothing wrong with gun confiscation, despite history proving he's in trouble already.
Just a point of information, the Trudeau government has backed down on the bill.
Quote from: Tory Potter on February 10, 2023, 06:30:35 AMJust a point of information, the Trudeau government has backed down on the bill.
Ohhh, so now everything is all better and we should just forgive and forget?
Quote from: Solar on February 10, 2023, 06:34:04 AMOhhh, so now everything is all better and we should just forgive and forget?
No, it is what it is.
Quote from: Tory Potter on February 10, 2023, 06:35:20 AMNo, it is what it is.
And you think that's the last you'll hear about it?
Quote from: Solar on February 10, 2023, 06:37:32 AMAnd you think that's the last you'll hear about it?
I can't predict the future. I sometimes try. I predicted Secretary Clinton would win the 2016 Presidential election. I predicted President Trump would win the 2020 election. For $100 Canadian, I will predict whomever you name to win the 2024 Presidential election. It is a guaranteed loss, so I'm open to bids. Maybe you could get together and start a fund. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Possum on December 23, 2022, 01:57:31 PMSHHHHHHHH! He still thinks Trudeau stands for democracy.................Hell, same thing. :lol:
Canada is not, nor has ever been a democracy.Trudeau was not elected Prime Minister. Prime Ministers are not elected, they are appointed. So what is all this democracy baloney?
Quote from: Tory Potter on February 10, 2023, 06:59:41 AMCanada is not, nor has ever been a democracy.Trudeau was not elected Prime Minister. Prime Ministers are not elected, they are appointed. So what is all this democracy baloney?
:bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
Then you better straighten out your PM!
Democracy is healthy, Trudeau says as debate over Parliament's return continueshttps://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/democracy-is-healthy-trudeau-says-as-debate-over-parliament-s-return-continues-1.4899102
But this is interesting, because it proves you learned something after years of posting here.
You finally took the time to understand the how the Canadian govt was never designed for the people, rather, to protect Royal power
Quote from: Solar on February 10, 2023, 07:12:43 AM:bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
Then you better straighten out your PM!
Democracy is healthy, Trudeau says as debate over Parliament's return continues
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/democracy-is-healthy-trudeau-says-as-debate-over-parliament-s-return-continues-1.4899102
But this is interesting, because it proves you learned something after years of posting here.
You finally took the time to understand the how the Canadian govt was never designed for the people, rather, to protect Royal power
:thumbup:
Quote from: Solar on February 10, 2023, 08:36:50 AMSo what actually happened to the monarchy?
Nothing. Canada has been a Monarchy since Louis XIV 419 years ago. Now, the Canadian sovereign is King Charles. There has been an evolutionary process but the role of the King is embedded in the Constitution so deep, it could not be changed even if the people were stupid enough to want to. When you look at the leading Monarchs around the world, from Naruhito to Charles, to Harald, and compare them with Presidents Putin, Biden and Xi, Monarchy wins by 1.6 Km. :biggrin:
Quote from: Tory Potter on February 10, 2023, 08:51:00 AMNothing. Canada has been a Monarchy since Louis XIV 419 years ago. Now, the Canadian sovereign is King Charles. There has been an evolutionary process but the role of the King is embedded in the Constitution so deep, it could not be changed even if the people were stupid enough to want to. When you look at the leading Monarchs around the world, from Naruhito to Charles, to Harald, and compare them with Presidents Putin, Biden and Xi, Monarchy wins by 1.6 Km. :biggrin:
So Canadians now have a group who could be labeled MINO. :smile:
Quote from: supsalemgr on February 10, 2023, 09:08:04 AMSo Canadians now have a group who could be labeled MINO. :smile:
:thumbsup:
Quote from: Tory Potter on February 10, 2023, 08:51:00 AMNothing. Canada has been a Monarchy since Louis XIV 419 years ago. Now, the Canadian sovereign is King Charles. There has been an evolutionary process but the role of the King is embedded in the Constitution so deep, it could not be changed even if the people were stupid enough to want to. When you look at the leading Monarchs around the world, from Naruhito to Charles, to Harald, and compare them with Presidents Putin, Biden and Xi, Monarchy wins by 1.6 Km. :biggrin:
Soooo, Turdeau Lied? Say it isn't so. :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
Quote from: supsalemgr on February 10, 2023, 09:08:04 AMSo Canadians now have a group who could be labeled MINO. :smile:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Solar on February 10, 2023, 11:32:59 AMSoooo, Turdeau Lied? Say it isn't so. :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
OMG. Are you serious? :yikes Pierre Poilievre, leader of the Conservative Party, points out that the only time the Prime Minister lies is when his lips are moving.
Quote from: Tory Potter on February 10, 2023, 03:50:12 PMOMG. Are you serious? :yikes Pierre Poilievre, leader of the Conservative Party, points out that the only time the Prime Minister lies is when his lips are moving.
You guys still sending people to reeducation camps?
Quote from: Tory Potter on December 23, 2022, 12:19:41 PMI only recognize a few names on this list but the ones I am familiar with are people with reputations for integrity. I am surprised that a conspiracy of this size and scope could be credible.
So I guess I should believe the allegation pending actual credible proof. I think I will hold judgement until there is actual evidence. I've always been skeptical of the laptop story because it seemed too convenient to be true. I'll wait and see what happens.
Are you really this stupid?
Quote from: taxed on February 14, 2023, 03:44:24 PMYou guys still sending people to reeducation camps?
:lol:
I could answer that but the UN boogy men will pop in for a visit.