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Title: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: Solar on September 18, 2023, 08:03:28 AM
Oh yeah, it's Invisible? :bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl

But wait, this article seems to find the humor in all of it. :thumbsup:

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"How in the hell do you lose an F-35?" South Carolina Republican Representative Nancy Mace wrote on X Sunday night, adding, "How is there not a tracking device, and we're asking the public to what, find a jet and turn it in?"


On Sunday afternoon, Joint Base Charleston, an air base in North Charleston, was working with Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort to "locate an F-35 that was involved in a mishap". The pilot ejected safely from F-35B Lightning II, but there were no immediate crash reports.


The fact that the $140 million stealth fighter disappeared without any reports of a crash means it might have gone down in a sparsely populated area. The Drive pointed out, "The DoD is saying the F-35B was put on autopilot prior to the ejection."

Military expert and former British military officer Frank Ledwidge told Newsweek the F-35 "could likely travel hundreds of miles without its pilot."

"Historically, an aircraft without a pilot can fly a long way on autopilot," added Frederik Mertens, a military analyst with the Hague Center for Security Studies.

The Washington Post quoted Jeremy Huggins, a spokesman at Joint Base Charleston, who said the F-35's transponder was not working "for some reason that we haven't yet determined."

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/how-do-you-lose-f-35-us-military-cant-find-stealth-jet-after-mishap
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: ZenMode on September 18, 2023, 08:29:41 AM
They can't find an F-35, but we can't be trusted with an AR-15?
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: VVet69 on September 18, 2023, 09:24:33 AM
I would really like to know why the pilot ejected from a plane that was capable of flying on autopilot...
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: Solar on September 18, 2023, 04:14:24 PM
Quote from: VVet69 on September 18, 2023, 09:24:33 AMI would really like to know why the pilot ejected from a plane that was capable of flying on autopilot...
Yeah, that was quite a stretch if anything. :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
No doubt he bailed because an inevitability was approaching within seconds.
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: Solar on September 18, 2023, 05:42:07 PM
They Found It! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

"Teams from JB Charleston, [Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort], the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing out of MCAS Cherry Point, Navy Region Southeast, the FAA, the Civil Air Patrol, as well as local, county, and state law enforcement across South Carolina have been working together to locate the U.S. Marine Corps F-35B," it continued.

The statement further advised community members to steer clear of the debris field while the recovery team was on the premises.

The fighter's disappearance on Sunday prompted mocking reactions and expressions of incredulity that the U.S. military could somehow lose track of such a sophisticated and expensive piece of military hardware.

"How in the hell do you lose an F-35? How is there not a tracking device and we're asking the public to what, find a jet and turn it in?" asked GOP South Carolina Rep. Nancy Mace.


https://justthenews.com/government/security/military-locates-debris-field-search-missing-f-35-fighter-jet?utm_source=mux&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tw
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: Possum on September 19, 2023, 04:34:33 AM
https://100percentfedup.com/false-flag-imminent-u-s-military-issues-2-day-stand-down-order-for-all-jets/

Quote🚨| U.S. Military is reportedly issuing a "2-day-stand-down" order for ALL military jets in and outside the U.S. citing missing F -35, according to ABC News.

On Sunday, an F – 35 mishap caused the pilot to eject and land safely over South Carolina, where the jet was... pic.twitter.com/xVj2tfwAuH

Why announce it? Were we hacked?
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: Solar on September 19, 2023, 06:35:55 AM
Quote from: Possum on September 19, 2023, 04:34:33 AMhttps://100percentfedup.com/false-flag-imminent-u-s-military-issues-2-day-stand-down-order-for-all-jets/

Why announce it? Were we hacked?
Remember when this bull shit was happening with our Navy, when they couldn't control our ships?
This is the result of Marxists in the pentagon.
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: Solar on September 19, 2023, 08:44:19 AM
You decide...


https://truthsocial.com/@KarliBonne/posts/111085970263829042
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: VVet69 on September 19, 2023, 11:30:08 AM
Quote from: Solar on September 18, 2023, 05:42:07 PMThey Found It! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

"Teams from JB Charleston, [Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort], the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing out of MCAS Cherry Point, Navy Region Southeast, the FAA, the Civil Air Patrol, as well as local, county, and state law enforcement across South Carolina have been working together to locate the U.S. Marine Corps F-35B," it continued.

The statement further advised community members to steer clear of the debris field while the recovery team was on the premises.

The fighter's disappearance on Sunday prompted mocking reactions and expressions of incredulity that the U.S. military could somehow lose track of such a sophisticated and expensive piece of military hardware.

"How in the hell do you lose an F-35? How is there not a tracking device and we're asking the public to what, find a jet and turn it in?" asked GOP South Carolina Rep. Nancy Mace.


https://justthenews.com/government/security/military-locates-debris-field-search-missing-f-35-fighter-jet?utm_source=mux&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tw

According this news report (https://www.postandcourier.com/news/missing-marine-fighter-jet-found-sc/article_de94c536-561d-11ee-9262-bffa1e188902.html), The aircraft had a "faulty transponder", but that would only provide location via radar; but had it been working, would have made locating the crash site a bit faster.
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: Solar on September 21, 2023, 06:41:10 AM
Quote from: VVet69 on September 19, 2023, 11:30:08 AMAccording this news report (https://www.postandcourier.com/news/missing-marine-fighter-jet-found-sc/article_de94c536-561d-11ee-9262-bffa1e188902.html), The aircraft had a "faulty transponder", but that would only provide location via radar; but had it been working, would have made locating the crash site a bit faster.
Yeah, I've read that, as well as watched news reports stating it was an anomaly.
Problem is, they shutdown the F-35 globally, over a transponder? Nah, ty Spidey sense tells me they installed CCP chips in this thing. Remember all those Naval ships running out of control a few years back?

I'm not buying it, because the pilot sent a mayday, they should have already had a lock on him before he ejected.
Then they made claims of auto pilot engagement, but again, he should have been tracked the entire time. Whjy did he eject and the plane kept going?

This I do know for a fact. Our Own Govt Lies To the American People with Impunity.
So I look at every piece of evidence, knowing it was a lie and look in the opposite direction.

How sad is it when the only news one can believe, is when it's a whistle blower? :blink:
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: VVet69 on September 21, 2023, 02:29:10 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 21, 2023, 06:41:10 AMYeah, I've read that, as well as watched news reports stating it was an anomaly.
Problem is, they shutdown the F-35 globally, over a transponder? Nah, ty Spidey sense tells me they installed CCP chips in this thing. Remember all those Naval ships running out of control a few years back?

I'm not buying it, because the pilot sent a mayday, they should have already had a lock on him before he ejected.
Then they made claims of auto pilot engagement, but again, he should have been tracked the entire time. Whjy did he eject and the plane kept going?

This I do know for a fact. Our Own Govt Lies To the American People with Impunity.
So I look at every piece of evidence, knowing it was a lie and look in the opposite direction.

How sad is it when the only news one can believe, is when it's a whistle blower? :blink:
Pilot ejected over suburban North Charleston, SC; the plane was found near Boggy Swamp near Stuckey, SC. Plane flew about 50 miles from ejection to crash.  Its about that far from North Charleston to the Marine airfield in Beaufort, SC; so it could not have run out of fuel...  As they said, 'an anomaly'...
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: Solar on September 21, 2023, 02:41:54 PM
Quote from: VVet69 on September 21, 2023, 02:29:10 PMPilot ejected over suburban North Charleston, SC; the plane was found near Boggy Swamp near Stuckey, SC. Plane flew about 50 miles from ejection to crash.  Its about that far from North Charleston to the Marine airfield in Beaufort, SC; so it could not have run out of fuel...  As they said, 'an anomaly'...
I still think it's more than a fluke, that's why they panicked and shutdown every F-35 they had.
It's as if they were expecting something like this to happen.

One thing it does prove, that damned thing is truly invisible to radar.
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: VVet69 on September 22, 2023, 03:45:33 AM
Another news article (https://www.postandcourier.com/news/im-not-sure-where-the-airplane-is-f-35-pilot-says-after-ejecting-from-empty/article_ec80a438-58d6-11ee-b0bf-3b9d9a67d046.html), including the 911 calls after the pilot parachuted out of the aircraft. Maybe weather related?

From the article:

"We had a military jet crash. I'm the pilot," the unidentified 47-year-old Marine Corps pilot explained. "We need to get rescue rolling. I'm not sure where the airplane is. It would have crash-landed somewhere. I ejected."

The bizarre exchange occurred during a 4-minute phone call that followed the pilot's parachute landing into the yard of a South Kenwood Drive home shortly after 1:30 p.m. Sept. 17. He had been flying a F-35B Lighting II until he ejected from his jet during a powerful storm near Charleston International Airport. It would take more than a day for the $90 million jet to be found — some 60 miles away, smashed to pieces in a wooded area in rural Williamsburg County.
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: Billy's bayonet on September 22, 2023, 05:11:36 AM
Makes you wonder, what else did the military "lose" we dont know about.

Could the plane have been hacked?
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: Solar on September 22, 2023, 05:22:38 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on September 22, 2023, 05:11:36 AMMakes you wonder, what else did the military "lose" we dont know about.

Could the plane have been hacked?
I think that's exactly why we're not being told the whole story.
It appears the military suspected in as much as well, and why all the BS surrounding this story.
This is literally a carbon copy of the Naval incidents a few years back when they were losing control of ships..
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: Solar on September 22, 2023, 05:43:48 AM
Quote from: VVet69 on September 22, 2023, 03:45:33 AMAnother news article (https://www.postandcourier.com/news/im-not-sure-where-the-airplane-is-f-35-pilot-says-after-ejecting-from-empty/article_ec80a438-58d6-11ee-b0bf-3b9d9a67d046.html), including the 911 calls after the pilot parachuted out of the aircraft. Maybe weather related?

From the article:

"We had a military jet crash. I'm the pilot," the unidentified 47-year-old Marine Corps pilot explained. "We need to get rescue rolling. I'm not sure where the airplane is. It would have crash-landed somewhere. I ejected."

The bizarre exchange occurred during a 4-minute phone call that followed the pilot's parachute landing into the yard of a South Kenwood Drive home shortly after 1:30 p.m. Sept. 17. He had been flying a F-35B Lighting II until he ejected from his jet during a powerful storm near Charleston International Airport. It would take more than a day for the $90 million jet to be found — some 60 miles away, smashed to pieces in a wooded area in rural Williamsburg County.

This creates even more questions than before.
Where was his emergency radio? Makes one wonder just how incompetent the entire program is.
Now we have the DOD blaming the manufacturer, Lockheed?

Only 55 percent of F-35s mission capable, putting depot work in spotlight: GAO

Just 55% of the Pentagon's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter fleet was mission capable as of March 2023, a disappointing statistic driven by factors like a lack of depot capacity, insufficient supply of spare parts and overreliance on contractors, according to a new report from the Government Accountability Office.

This sounds like a "Right To Repair" issue. As follows... :biggrin:

The watchdog's assessment — published days after a Marine Corps F-35B went missing for over 24 hours in South Carolina — highlights a complaint frequently aired by government officials: prime contractor Lockheed Martin, along with its countless subcontractors, were given too much control over sustaining the stealth fighter, a situation officials told GAO is untenable for the program's future.The DoD also lacks access to certain technical data, which hinders the work of some maintainers and risks delays for depot activities as negotiations over data rights drags on. The problem of data access affects both hardware and software sustainment, GAO found.

https://breakingdefense.com/2023/09/only-55-percent-of-f-35s-mission-capable-putting-depot-work-in-spotlight-gao/
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: Possum on September 22, 2023, 12:51:31 PM
The top of our military has too many important issues, like counting how many genders there are, to be bothered with a silly little plane.  :cursing:  :cursing:  :cursing:  :cursing:  :cursing:
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: Solar on September 22, 2023, 01:27:32 PM
Quote from: Possum on September 22, 2023, 12:51:31 PMThe top of our military has too many important issues, like counting how many genders there are, to be bothered with a silly little plane.  :cursing:  :cursing:  :cursing:  :cursing:  :cursing:
But they mastered CYA and blaming everyone for their own incompetence. :angry:
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: Billy's bayonet on September 22, 2023, 06:38:50 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 22, 2023, 05:22:38 AMI think that's exactly why we're not being told the whole story.
It appears the military suspected in as much as well, and why all the BS surrounding this story.
This is literally a carbon copy of the Naval incidents a few years back when they were losing control of ships..

Thats the consequences of allowing Chinese spy balloons float across the USA instead of blasting them out of the sky
Title: Re: How do You Lose A Stealth Fighter Jet?
Post by: Solar on September 22, 2023, 06:43:39 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on September 22, 2023, 06:38:50 PMThats the consequences of allowing Chinese spy balloons float across the USA instead of blasting them out of the sky
EXCELLENT POINT!
How many CCP balloons were in the air when the Navy was having sooo many issues with navigation?
Which begs the question. How many are over head at this very moment?

Our Govt sucks!!!