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Title: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 26, 2024, 04:17:54 AM
Horrible! Still counting lost souls...

The MV Dali approaches from the north-east but approximately four minutes and 20 seconds before impact all lights aboard the ship go out, a clear indication of a total onboard loss of power. One minute and ten seconds after this visual indication that all is not well onboard some lights are restored, and they continue to turn on and off to varying degrees until the collision.

I only started the video at time of impact, but you can watch from the beginning if you prefer.

Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Rick on March 26, 2024, 07:21:30 AM
A little soon for a "black swan event". And I don't see how it could play out. Still it will be interesting.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Rick on March 26, 2024, 07:26:34 AM
And there is this:

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2024/03/26/baltimore-city-implodes-police-force-collapses-only-three-officers-patrolled-major-district/#more-333037

Don't know .. no ships, no food. riots?
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: VVet69 on March 26, 2024, 09:18:56 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 26, 2024, 04:17:54 AMHorrible! Still counting lost souls...

The MV Dali approaches from the north-east but approximately four minutes and 20 seconds before impact all lights aboard the ship go out, a clear indication of a total onboard loss of power. One minute and ten seconds after this visual indication that all is not well onboard some lights are restored, and they continue to turn on and off to varying degrees until the collision.

I only started the video at time of impact, but you can watch from the beginning if you prefer.



I watched from the beginning.  the ship lights go off about a minute into the video, come back on about a minute later, and the shortly after that a large plume of dark smoke appears to be pouring out of the port smokestack. At that time the ship starts a turn to starboard. Lights go out about a minute after they came on, ship continues to turn into the bridge. Lights come on again, ship continues to turn, and finally hits the bridge support.  IMHO, Either the rudder controls failed or the starboard engine/propeller failed causing the ship to turn into the bridge.  Could have been a lot worse had this happened during morning or afternoon commute...   :sad:  :sad: :sad:  :sad:
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 26, 2024, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: VVet69 on March 26, 2024, 09:18:56 AMI watched from the beginning.  the ship lights go off about a minute into the video, come back on about a minute later, and the shortly after that a large plume of dark smoke appears to be pouring out of the port smokestack. At that time the ship starts a turn to starboard. Lights go out about a minute after they came on, ship continues to turn into the bridge. Lights come on again, ship continues to turn, and finally hits the bridge support.  IMHO, Either the rudder controls failed or the starboard engine/propeller failed causing the ship to turn into the bridge.  Could have been a lot worse had this happened during morning or afternoon commute...   :sad:  :sad: :sad:  :sad:
I saw that as well. Usually white smoke is unburned fuel, which we didn't see, excessive black fuel is maxed out RPM.
It looks like they were fine up until they lost power, meaning loss of rudder control, (IMO).

They did have a port captain abord as it's his job to navigate out, so without power neither knew what to do other than drop anchor.
This is based on what I've been reading about procedure.

Sadly, it sounds like a horrific accident, but why they lost power will definitely be investigated.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 26, 2024, 11:45:12 AM
Th crew had alerted ahead of time they had a power issue, so they blocked traffic.


Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 26, 2024, 03:31:34 PM
Quote from: Rick on March 26, 2024, 07:21:30 AMA little soon for a "black swan event". And I don't see how it could play out. Still it will be interesting.
Remember when our Navy ships were hacked? Just sayn...
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 26, 2024, 04:15:33 PM
https://rumble.com/embed/v4j4zo5/?pub=17yzhh
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Billy's bayonet on March 27, 2024, 05:25:22 AM
A foreign registered ship, nothing about where it is flagged or the nationality of the crew. Sabotage (?)
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 27, 2024, 07:52:53 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on March 27, 2024, 05:25:22 AMA foreign registered ship, nothing about where it is flagged or the nationality of the crew. Sabotage (?)
Chinese owned.
I'm with Rick, this goes far deeper than just a coincidental accident.
But this is after all, the Biteme admin, so they'll find a plausible excuse to let the CCP off the hook.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Rick on March 27, 2024, 08:36:19 AM
You mentioned the US navy ship attack. I did not realize there have been so many>

https://johngaltfla.com/economics/the-baltimore-incident-mechanical-failure-or-deliberate-cyberattack/
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 27, 2024, 08:44:44 AM
Quote from: Rick on March 27, 2024, 08:36:19 AMYou mentioned the US navy ship attack. I did not realize there have been so many>

https://johngaltfla.com/economics/the-baltimore-incident-mechanical-failure-or-deliberate-cyberattack/
Yep, has CCP connection written all over it.
As of the moment, they're starting with the contaminated fuel narrative, which will prove out to be a lie considering this is the only ship to make such an egregious claim.

But it looks like they think they can make it stick as plausible to the sheep, so it will probably be what these Marxists go with..
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: supsalemgr on March 27, 2024, 09:00:36 AM
I am not buying the fuel theory either. The interviews with the two pilots will be key. I believe the cyber possibility should be investigated.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 27, 2024, 09:19:09 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 27, 2024, 09:00:36 AMI am not buying the fuel theory either. The interviews with the two pilots will be key. I believe the cyber possibility should be investigated.

Even FUX Snooze is pushing the unfounded "Contaminated Fuel" narrative.
Problem is, the end result of a bridge being struck at its most vulnerable point is like winning the lottery a billion times in a row.


Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 27, 2024, 10:42:28 AM

With NY a mere skeleton of what it was just a few years ago, Boston brought to its knees, La is next.
Question is, what will they do to it?

They tried quashing trucking at the port but that didn't work, will they pull the obvious and attack the port directly?
Wouldn't that be a bit too obvious? So outside of Louisiana and Texas, how will they cripple La before the elections?
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Possum on March 27, 2024, 12:47:32 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 27, 2024, 07:52:53 AMChinese owned.
I'm with Rick, this goes far deeper than just a coincidental accident.
But this is after all, the Biteme admin, so they'll find a plausible excuse to let the CCP off the hook.
Wild ass guess, all of these "mishaps" the train derailments, the food warehouses burning down, ETC, are all part of a trial run. The main question is by who, China or mideast?
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Rick on March 27, 2024, 01:27:33 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 27, 2024, 10:42:28 AMThey tried quashing trucking at the port but that didn't work, will they pull the obvious and attack the port directly?
Wouldn't that be a bit too obvious? So outside of Louisiana and Texas, how will they cripple La before the elections?

Trains, the right spot in the Cajon pass would shut down bought railroad and the I15.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 27, 2024, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: Possum on March 27, 2024, 12:47:32 PMWild ass guess, all of these "mishaps" the train derailments, the food warehouses burning down, ETC, are all part of a trial run. The main question is by who, China or mideast?
WEF would be my guess with the help of communists globally.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 27, 2024, 01:32:43 PM
Quote from: Rick on March 27, 2024, 01:27:33 PMTrains, the right spot in the Cajon pass would shut down bought railroad and the I15.
Mark that one on the target list. :cool:
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 27, 2024, 08:09:27 PM
Why, without a real investigation, are we the taxpayers footing the Bill for the entire rebuild?
Why isn't the CCP on the hook? Hell, remember the Exon Valdez spill?

Too many questions, and these Commie fux think we'll just roll over?

Oh, and if you still think this shit was an accident, just speed up the video. :sneaky:
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 27, 2024, 08:19:20 PM
It Was A Cyber Attack!!!




https://rumble.com/embed/v4j8swx/?pub=17yzhh
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 27, 2024, 08:30:29 PM
California Aqueduct, Oroville dam, take these out and L.A dries up!
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Billy's bayonet on March 28, 2024, 06:20:55 AM
Some disturbing details are coming to light. The commie media is trying to hide. The Captain is from Ukraine, no info on ship registry (country) No info on Nationality of the crew.

THEN THIS SURFACES:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/03/27/migration-advocates-use-bridge-deaths-to-push-for-more-migration/

Apparently the workforce doing the concrete work on the Bridge is made up of ILLEGALS, the company is owned by some sleazy character who employs illegals, so lets add SHODDY WORKMANSHIP into the mix as well.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Rick on March 28, 2024, 08:31:36 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 27, 2024, 08:30:29 PMCalifornia Aqueduct, Oroville dam, take these out and L.A dries up!

Intersting you should mention that: US Warns of Cyberattacks Against Water Systems
From SurvivalBlog staff writer Tom Christianson: US Warns of Cyberattacks Against Water Systems Throughout Nation.


Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 28, 2024, 08:37:34 AM
Quote from: Rick on March 28, 2024, 08:31:36 AMIntersting you should mention that: US Warns of Cyberattacks Against Water Systems
From SurvivalBlog staff writer Tom Christianson: US Warns of Cyberattacks Against Water Systems Throughout Nation.



Yep, a grid attack lasting more than 2 days would be devastating to all water works.
Terrorists know this, they've already done dry runs on PG&E and Edison works.
Just toppling the main line power running from Ca to Washington would cripple the state for a year.
This isn't even mentioning sewage treatment plants.

Glad I'm off grid.  :blink:
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: supsalemgr on March 28, 2024, 10:29:53 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on March 28, 2024, 06:20:55 AMSome disturbing details are coming to light. The commie media is trying to hide. The Captain is from Ukraine, no info on ship registry (country) No info on Nationality of the crew.

THEN THIS SURFACES:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/03/27/migration-advocates-use-bridge-deaths-to-push-for-more-migration/

Apparently the workforce doing the concrete work on the Bridge is made up of ILLEGALS, the company is owned by some sleazy character who employs illegals, so lets add SHODDY WORKMANSHIP into the mix as well.


I just read that 20 of the 21 crew members were from India.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 28, 2024, 02:19:09 PM
I wonder just how full of actual cargo the ship was?
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Rick on March 28, 2024, 03:45:47 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 28, 2024, 02:19:09 PMI wonder just how full of actual cargo the ship was?

Don't see any containers floating in the water.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 28, 2024, 06:34:42 PM
Quote from: Rick on March 28, 2024, 03:45:47 PMDon't see any containers floating in the water.
I don't think the strike was a complete success.
Listen to this, the more we don't know, the more this proves out to be a cyber attack
And the hazardous containers, were they all placed strategically on the front of the ship? Because they're leaking. :sneaky: 


Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Rick on March 28, 2024, 09:26:14 PM
And there is this:

Hmm mm did not post.

Anyway , Black box has 2 minutes missing.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 29, 2024, 07:02:13 AM
Quote from: Rick on March 28, 2024, 09:26:14 PMAnd there is this:

Hmm mm did not post.

Anyway , Black box has 2 minutes missing.

Yeah, the crucial minutes! I knew that was going to happen, they can't allow us to know what really happened.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: VVet69 on March 29, 2024, 09:21:45 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 29, 2024, 07:02:13 AMYeah, the crucial minutes! I knew that was going to happen, they can't allow us to know what really happened.

This news article (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/baltimore-bridge-collapse-timeline-black-box-b2520111.html) notes the 2 minutes of no data being recorded at the time the ship lost all power.  This sounds reasonable as the black box was powered by ship's power; similar to how aircraft black boxes are powered.  Likely not any battery backups in the ship system (might be required after this).
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 29, 2024, 10:56:55 AM
Quote from: VVet69 on March 29, 2024, 09:21:45 AMThis news article (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/baltimore-bridge-collapse-timeline-black-box-b2520111.html) notes the 2 minutes of no data being recorded at the time the ship lost all power.  This sounds reasonable as the black box was powered by ship's power; similar to how aircraft black boxes are powered.  Likely not any battery backups in the ship system (might be required after this).
All have backup power, just like tracking beacons, so we can find them later.
Some use battery, many others use capacitors.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 29, 2024, 03:14:59 PM
Quote from: VVet69 on March 29, 2024, 09:21:45 AMThis news article (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/baltimore-bridge-collapse-timeline-black-box-b2520111.html) notes the 2 minutes of no data being recorded at the time the ship lost all power.  This sounds reasonable as the black box was powered by ship's power; similar to how aircraft black boxes are powered.  Likely not any battery backups in the ship system (might be required after this).
Here ya go. Note how they claimed it only recorded the radio when it "supposedly went out", but nothing else? They Lied!

The logs, released by the NTSB, show the ship lost power at 1.25am, triggering multiple alarms and forcing the VDR to switch to a backup power source.

(https://img.bhs4.com/C0/3/C031C03D632B6BE054173C1F9BB23D4AA0650D37_large.jpg)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/03/28/key-bridge-baltimore-collapse-alarm-anchor-black-box/
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: VVet69 on March 30, 2024, 04:35:36 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 29, 2024, 03:14:59 PMHere ya go. Note how they claimed it only recorded the radio when it "supposedly went out", but nothing else? They Lied!

The logs, released by the NTSB, show the ship lost power at 1.25am, triggering multiple alarms and forcing the VDR to switch to a backup power source.

(https://img.bhs4.com/C0/3/C031C03D632B6BE054173C1F9BB23D4AA0650D37_large.jpg)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/03/28/key-bridge-baltimore-collapse-alarm-anchor-black-box/


Thanks for correcting my wrong assumption on the backup power. I think what also happened is that the devices that VDR was supposed to monitor were not functioning due to the power loss, and did not have any way to send the data to the VDR.  VDR does not power the sensors, just receives the signals.

https://maritime-executive.com/index.php/article/ntsb-releases-vdr-timeline-of-baltimore-bridge-strike (https://maritime-executive.com/index.php/article/ntsb-releases-vdr-timeline-of-baltimore-bridge-strike)

From the article above:

"At 0124 hours, Dali was under way in the channel, making eight knots and steering 141 degrees. At about 0125, multiple alarms went off, and the VDR ceased recording the ship's electronic system data. Using backup power, the VDR kept recording bridge audio, and it captured the pilot's verbal rudder commands.

One minute later, at 0126, the VDR was able to resume recording the ship's electronic data. Shortly after - at 0126:39 - the pilot made a general VHF call for tug assistance. This was the first distress call from the vessel."

I am not convinced that this was a deliberate act at this point, but there is very much more to investigate. 

Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Solar on March 30, 2024, 06:09:05 AM
Quote from: VVet69 on March 30, 2024, 04:35:36 AMThanks for correcting my wrong assumption on the backup power. I think what also happened is that the devices that VDR was supposed to monitor were not functioning due to the power loss, and did not have any way to send the data to the VDR.  VDR does not power the sensors, just receives the signals.

https://maritime-executive.com/index.php/article/ntsb-releases-vdr-timeline-of-baltimore-bridge-strike (https://maritime-executive.com/index.php/article/ntsb-releases-vdr-timeline-of-baltimore-bridge-strike)

From the article above:

"At 0124 hours, Dali was under way in the channel, making eight knots and steering 141 degrees. At about 0125, multiple alarms went off, and the VDR ceased recording the ship's electronic system data. Using backup power, the VDR kept recording bridge audio, and it captured the pilot's verbal rudder commands.

One minute later, at 0126, the VDR was able to resume recording the ship's electronic data. Shortly after - at 0126:39 - the pilot made a general VHF call for tug assistance. This was the first distress call from the vessel."

I am not convinced that this was a deliberate act at this point, but there is very much more to investigate. 


You weren't the only one confused.
Yeah, the NTSB is to blame for claiming there was dead time on the VDR, which was a either a outright lie, or incompetence.
The VDR never stopped, other things sending it information did, but the VDR did its job.

The manipulation of this entire situation has been handled by the most incompetent people, on purpose, Hell, even Buttigieg blamed it all on racism.
The decade of DEI hires. Has made us the easiest targets in the world. It will only get worse, as planned.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Rick on March 30, 2024, 01:33:17 PM
Who hada secnd bridge hit, for March?

https://www.5newsonline.com/article/news/local/bridge-oklahoma-struck-by-barge/527-0eaa84e0-77ef-4035-a135-998d012eba30
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse in Baltimore, MD (March 26, 2024) Video
Post by: Rick on March 30, 2024, 01:40:15 PM
This adds an interesting factor:

(https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=624.8000135421753,quality=100,fit=scale-down/system/media_attachments/files/160/407/281/original/cebe78f6ee54fd37.jpg)