The far left claims Biteme is just fine where he is, while the more corrupt Marxist Fuglosi side wants the most popular Resident ever, needs to go, and remember, the basement Dweller got more votes than any candidate in history, yet suddenly he has to go?
It's been a fascinating battle as his media has no clue which faction to back. :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
Quite the conundrum. I Say Biteme stays. What do you think?
I frankly do not know how this might end. If stubborn Joe decides to stay the masses will literally hand the election to Trump. I say this because their desire to replace Joe will totally destroy the party. I can see congress critters openly say they should be elected just to stop Trump. Some candidates will publicly throw Biden under the bus.
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 20, 2024, 08:01:49 AMI frankly do not know how this might end. If stubborn Joe decides to stay the masses will literally hand the election to Trump. I say this because their desire to replace Joe will totally destroy the party. I can see congress critters openly say they should be elected just to stop Trump. Some candidates will publicly throw Biden under the bus.
Yep, and half the party will rebel. Granted the party is split, it's not even, the old guard under Fuglosi doesn't have the numbers she once had, nor does she wield much power, not to mention, it was her base that created the Biteme mess in the first place.
I think the best thing they can do now, is let it ride, because replacing him would be an admittance of failure/defeat and lies about his 2020 election claims of getting the most votes in history?
Letting him ride could save what little dignity the age old party has, I say could, but in truth, the DNC is dead, no matter how much the dress up the empty corpse.
After this election, no one is going to pay any attention to the DNC, and with the GOP Majority in conservatives hands, the DNC will have lost its biggest ally.
There are way too many complications to picking someone else, ballots reprinted, getting the new person legally registered and Biteme removed and the list goes on not to mention the donor issues and Biteme's war chest, Jill ain't partin with that.
Not only has the party power structure changed, so has the US electorate, and equally important, the world sees a brighter future under Trump.
No, I don't believe the think tanks are backing this move, to Whom? They haven't even floated a potential name that could even hope to challenge Trump.
This is so enjoyable, watching a party on fire just a few months before the vote. :biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on July 20, 2024, 08:30:09 AMYep, and half the party will rebel. Granted the party is split, it's not even, the old guard under Fuglosi doesn't have the numbers she once had, nor does she wield much power, not to mention, it was her base that created the Biteme mess in the first place.
I think the best thing they can do now, is let it ride, because replacing him would be an admittance of failure/defeat and lies about his 2020 election claims of getting the most votes in history?
Letting him ride could save what little dignity the age old party has, I say could, but in truth, the DNC is dead, no matter how much the dress up the empty corpse.
After this election, no one is going to pay any attention to the DNC, and with the GOP Majority in conservatives hands, the DNC will have lost its biggest ally.
There are way too many complications to picking someone else, ballots reprinted, getting the new person legally registered and Biteme removed and the list goes on not to mention the donor issues and Biteme's war chest, Jill ain't partin with that.
Not only has the party power structure changed, so has the US electorate, and equally important, the world sees a brighter future under Trump.
No, I don't believe the think tanks are backing this move, to Whom? They haven't even floated a potential name that could even hope to challenge Trump.
This is so enjoyable, watching a party on fire just a few months before the vote. :biggrin:
The democrat party could always nominate Mitt Romney. How does Romney/Harris sound?
Quote from: Possum on July 20, 2024, 09:04:33 AMThe democrat party could always nominate Mitt Romney. How does Romney/Harris sound?
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Wait, a Mitten Cheney ticket? :biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on July 20, 2024, 09:07:22 AM:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Wait, a Mitten Cheney ticket? :biggrin:
Stop it, you're getting the liberals all excited. :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Possum on July 20, 2024, 01:18:25 PMStop it, you're getting the liberals all excited. :lol: :lol:
I swear, it's still a better ticket than Nucelinni. The left has absolutely no one, but here they are trying to sell the idea Biteme needs to be replaced? By Whom? :lol: :lol: :lol:
https://twitter.com/chiIIum/status/1814476812522557603
Quote from: Solar on July 20, 2024, 01:21:44 PMI swear, it's still a better ticket than Nucelinni. The left has absolutely no one, but here they are trying to sell the idea Biteme needs to be replaced? By Whom? :lol: :lol: :lol:
The democratic party owes it all to Obama.
QuoteFrom 2008 to 2016, something extraordinary happened. Little by little, Obama's presidency took its toll on his party. He routinely made everything about himself and his own ambitions rather than doing things for the good of the party. He never worked with his party to grow their majorities, and in fact, alienated a lot of Americans with his policies. It was so bad that, by the time the 2016 election came around, the party was all but wiped out.
Every president sees his party lose hundreds of positions — it's the price a party holding the White House pays — but no president has come close to Obama. During Obama's eight years in office, the Democrats have lost more House, Senate, state legislative and governors seats than under any other president.
When Obama took office, there were 60 Democratic senators; now there are 46. The number of House seats held by Democrats has shrunk from 257 to 188.
There are now nine fewer Democratic governors than in 2009. Democrats currently hold fewer elected offices nationwide than at any time since the 1920s.
QuoteObama's policies decimated Rust Belt jobs in particular. The blue collar middle class had had it with him and his team. After two devastating midterm cycles and barely squeaking by in his own reelection, Obama left office as the head of a party that had suffered more losses than at any point in history.
https://redstate.com/joesquire/2024/07/20/barack-obama-the-man-behind-the-democrats-biden-dilemma-n2177141
This article is about eight years too late. These items were discussed here eight years ago.
I Still say the game plan from the git go is to get Hillary into the VP slot by the back door. I'm half surprised Potato head lasted this long. He either resigns (which his ego won't allow), dies or get forcibly removed due to incapacity like stroke or in a coma. Just so you know any of the three can be induced. Flatback becomes President and names her VP; enter Madame Le Farge Le Hillare'. But now Obamao is obviously in charge, as long Joe is the President then Obamao is too, vicariously. I would surmise that the best case scenario would be to steal another election then remove Joe afterwards and set the plan in motion.
I see two factions at work here, Obamao and the Clintons on the A team and whomever is backing Kamala, idiots like Stacey Abrams or Whitmer both who would want that VP slot.
Everybody, including Kamala knows who the Real President would be if Hillary gets anywhere near the oval office.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 20, 2024, 02:51:55 PMI Still say the game plan from the git go is to get Hillary into the VP slot by the back door. I'm half surprised Potato head lasted this long. He either resigns (which his ego won't allow), dies or get forcibly removed due to incapacity like stroke or in a coma. Just so you know any of the three can be induced. Flatback becomes President and names her VP; enter Madame Le Farge Le Hillare'. But now Obamao is obviously in charge, as long Joe is the President then Obamao is too, vicariously. I would surmise that the best case scenario would be to steal another election then remove Joe afterwards and set the plan in motion.
I see two factions at work here, Obamao and the Clintons on the A team and whomever is backing Kamala, idiots like Stacey Abrams or Whitmer both who would want that VP slot.
Everybody, including Kamala knows who the Real President would be if Hillary gets anywhere near the oval office.
Billy, this hit a couple of days ago, another article which reads all opinion and very little to back it up, but it gives a different spin.
QuoteBased on the provided search results, it appears that President Joe Biden has reportedly decided not to endorse Vice President Kamala Harris as his successor if he were to step down from the 2024 presidential race. According to a Newsmax report on July 19, 2024, Biden will not endorse Harris, and instead, she would face an open convention for the Democratic Party's official nomination next month.
https://search.brave.com/search?q=Biden+will+not+endorse+Harris&source=web&summary=1&summary_og=fef4504b3fe6bfba3ce10e
I'm guessing that would leave the top spot open for Hillary. Whoever runs as the democrat candidate probably will ruin their chances for a future run, I think they will get beat that bad. So why not give the old bag one last chance? After all, she's already beat Trump once. :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Possum on July 20, 2024, 01:47:52 PMThe democratic party owes it all to Obama.
https://redstate.com/joesquire/2024/07/20/barack-obama-the-man-behind-the-democrats-biden-dilemma-n2177141
This article is about eight years too late. These items were discussed here eight years ago.
Obozo also screwed Hillary out of her shot at the WH, so there's still that animosity and why she's for Joe staying.
AOC is with Hillary because she despises Obozo, while the Fuglosi/Obozo faction want him gone. These wounds never healed, the hatred is palpable.
The party is split with the AOC Marxist side being in the majority, and the old guard communists in the minority, and yet, even their media can't help them with the spin.
The bigger question is, what happens to the DNC with actual Marxists in charge? Will they come out and call themselves the Democratic Marxist party? I believe they will prevail in taking over the party, just as the commies took it over when newt gutted the DNC and left only hardcore leftists in charge, the moderates jumped ship and joined the GOP, further watering down the Conservative voice.
Granted, the DNC is forever dead, so they'll be forced to abandon the party proper and create a hard left ghost of what it used to be.
Kamala can never legally take the POTUS position, she is not a Natural Born Citizen and never will be.
Western natural law birthright principle, jus sanguinis-the "law of blood" or parentage. In the US, this only applied to the birth father, and in Kamala's case, he was not a Citizen.
However, descent by parentage had a gender skew under natural law in late eighteenth-century Europe and America: the father's blood determined the political allegiance of
free persons at birth; the mother was legally irrelevant.
The law still applies to date.
https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1880&context=faculty_scholarship6
Sadly this is a long article to explain why, so I'll summarize. Our Founders knew what natural Born meant, it was a given of the day, simply because there was a faction in the country at the time who wanted to bring a foreigner in to run for King.
As noted, George Washington rebuked the ide of royalty, he despise the thought of a Class Society.
The Founders researched several scholarly books and articles and agreed that the lineage of the father, being a citizen of the newly formed country, owing allegiance to our founding Principles, that his offspring were guaranteed Rights of our new Nation.
This is why the term Natural Born was a given at the time and need no clarification in the Constitution.
Harris was not and never could be a Natural Born citizen, simply because her father never became an American citizen, therefore he held allegiance to another Nation, so she's shit out of luck!
This article was written a couple of weeks ago, so he still clings to the idea that the party's would collude in her favor, but the fact remains, it would wind up before SCOTUS, which has recently proven itself to be in favor of the Founders Intentions of the day.
In other words, the replacement of Joe is moot and the DNC is stuck with him, considering, their replacement would not be on the ballot, Joe would, then there's that pesky little monster of his campaign war chest, they'll have to kill off Jill to seize it.
https://drrichswier.com/2024/07/15/kamala-harris-is-not-a-natural-born-citizen/
Quote from: Solar on July 20, 2024, 04:42:07 PMKamala can never legally take the POTUS position, she is not a Natural Born Citizen and never will be.
Western natural law birthright principle, jus sanguinis-the "law of blood" or parentage. In the US, this only applied to the birth father, and in Kamala's case, he was not a Citizen.
However, descent by parentage had a gender skew under natural law in late eighteenth-century Europe and America: the father's blood determined the political allegiance of
free persons at birth; the mother was legally irrelevant.
The law still applies to date.
https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1880&context=faculty_scholarship6
Sadly this is a long article to explain why, so I'll summarize. Our Founders knew what natural Born meant, it was a given of the day, simply because there was a faction in the country at the time who wanted to bring a foreigner in to run for King.
As noted, George Washington rebuked the ide of royalty, he despise the thought of a Class Society.
The Founders researched several scholarly books and articles and agreed that the lineage of the father, being a citizen of the newly formed country, owing allegiance to our founding Principles, that his offspring were guaranteed Rights of our new Nation.
This is why the term Natural Born was a given at the time and need no clarification in the Constitution.
Harris was not and never could be a Natural Born citizen, simply because her father never became an American citizen, therefore he held allegiance to another Nation, so she's shit out of luck!
This article was written a couple of weeks ago, so he still clings to the idea that the party's would collude in her favor, but the fact remains, it would wind up before SCOTUS, which has recently proven itself to be in favor of the Founders Intentions of the day.
In other words, the replacement of Joe is moot and the DNC is stuck with him, considering, their replacement would not be on the ballot, Joe would, then there's that pesky little monster of his campaign war chest, they'll have to kill off Jill to seize it.
https://drrichswier.com/2024/07/15/kamala-harris-is-not-a-natural-born-citizen/
Harris was born in California, does that make her a US citizen by the 14th amendment? If not, that would also explain the story that Biden will not endorse her.
Was over at the brother in law today, he had the idiot box on CNN. They are in a total panic and have no clue how to get out of the hole they dug.
Quote from: Possum on July 20, 2024, 04:58:18 PMHarris was born in California, does that make her a US citizen by the 14th amendment? If not, that would also explain the story that Biden will not endorse her.
Was over at the brother in law today, he had the idiot box on CNN. They are in a total panic and have no clue how to get out of the hole they dug.
Nope, she can never be POTUS, by the 14th Amendment. It states quite clearly, male parentage only, and the father must be an American Citizen.
yeah, their media is coming apart at the seams, they don't have actual marching orders, they have no clue as to who would replace Joe, they can only question one another while walking on egg shells.
Here's one I created.
"The Chickens Came Home To Roost, and they all had Bird Flu. :lol: :lol: :lol:
LOL!
Just like I said, it's a DNC Coup Within The party.
ANOTHER LEAK: Biden Fumes in Isolation at Delaware Beach House, Believes "Puppet Master" Obama and Pelosi are Behind Coordinated Leaks to Drive Him Out of 2024 Race
According to The New York Times and CBS News, Joe Biden is angry with Pelosi and Barack Obama as coordinated leaks aim to drive him out of the 2024 race.
Damaging leaks to the media are increasing as powerful Democrats are working behind the scenes to force Joe Biden out of the 2024 race.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/biden-fumes-isolation-delaware-beach-house-as-obama/
https://rumble.com/v57qnp1-alex-jones-bombshell-report-crooked-hillary-to-replace-biden-at-dnc-convent.html
https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2024/07/20/you-knew-it-was-coming-lib-writer-pushes-for-hillary-clinton-to-replace-biden-on-democratic-ticket-n2177159
Dem democrats sure know how to pick-em. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Wild ass guess, if this is the route they want to take, it would explain why the virtual election instead of at the primary.
Hot off the press, proof they are spying on us. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
New Democrat Cope Drops: Make Mitt Romney Their Nomineehttps://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/07/21/new-democrat-cope-drops-and-its-to-make-mitt-romney-their-nominee-n2177169
QuoteHow desperate are Democrats to dump Joe Biden? Desperate enough to start floating the idea of using an open convention to make Mitt Romney their nominee.
No, I'm not kidding. The New York Times published a piece by Aaron Sorkin on Sunday suggesting that the former Republican presidential candidate could be the savior Democrats need in this dark time.
Quote from: Possum on July 21, 2024, 08:43:47 AMHot off the press, proof they are spying on us. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
New Democrat Cope Drops: Make Mitt Romney Their Nominee
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/07/21/new-democrat-cope-drops-and-its-to-make-mitt-romney-their-nominee-n2177169
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OK, we need to start feeding them!!! :biggrin: