You would think that true the vote would be jumping at the opportunity to turn over all of their "evidence".

Georgia sues True the Vote group over refusal to produce evidence of '2000 Mules' claims

ATLANTA - The Georgia State Election Board is asking a judge to order a conservative voting organization to produce information to help investigate its claims of ballot trafficking in the state.


The Texas-based True the Vote group filed complaints with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in November 2021, including one saying it had received "a detailed account of coordinated efforts to collect and deposit ballots in drop boxes across metro Atlanta" during the 2020 general election and in a runoff election in January 2021.

True the Vote's assertions were relied upon heavily for the film "2000 Mules," a widely debunked film by conservative pundit and filmmaker Dinesh D'Souza. The film featured surveillance video from drop boxes in Atlanta's suburbs showing people depositing multiple ballots. A State Election Board investigation found that those people were submitting ballots for themselves and family members who lived with them, which is allowed under Georgia law.


In the court filing Tuesday, the state attorney general's office asked a Fulton County Superior Court judge to order True the Vote to comply with its subpoena.

"After multiple good faith efforts by the SEB (State Election Board) and its counsel to obtain the requested information and documents, True the Vote continues to indifferently vacillate between statements of assured compliance and blanket refusals," leaving the election board with no choice but to turn to the courts, the filing says.

Two attorneys who have represented True the Vote in the matter did not immediately respond to emails seeking comment Wednesday.


More:
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-sues-true-the-vote-produce-evidence-mules-documentary-claims

Quote from: ZenMode on August 17, 2023, 04:28:23 PMATLANTA - The Georgia State Election Board is asking a judge to order a conservative voting organization to produce information to help investigate its claims of ballot trafficking in the state.

Man, you are one dumb SOB! Do you even have one iota of critical thought of your own?
Read that shit you posted again, and let it sink in!!!

Quote from: Solar on August 18, 2023, 05:39:10 AMMan, you are one dumb SOB! Do you even have one iota of critical thought of your own?
Read that shit you posted again, and let it sink in!!!

I've read it and I still don't understand why they wouldn't turn over the information.

Quote from: ZenMode on August 18, 2023, 06:35:21 AMI've read it and I still don't understand why they wouldn't turn over the information.

Right now people are coming under indictment for just questioning the results. Even Trump's lawyer's are telling him to wait until trial. Of course nobody expects you to understand this, so go ahead and post more bull sh-t, one day who knows, something might stick.

Quote from: Possum on August 18, 2023, 06:59:57 AMRight now people are coming under indictment for just questioning the results.

People are coming under indictment for claiming, as fact, that the results were fraudulent and for trying to overturn those results illegally.  That isn't the same thing as questioning them.  Millions of people, including those in high levels of local, state and federal government have questioned the results.

QuoteEven Trump's lawyer's are telling him to wait until trial. Of course nobody expects you to understand this, so go ahead and post more bull sh-t, one day who knows, something might stick.

I still don't know how that would impact TTV turning over their data.  If they (TTV) under investigation for "questioning the results", which I don't believe they are, I'd think the movie itself was more than enough evidence.

Quote from: ZenMode on August 18, 2023, 07:29:08 AMPeople are coming under indictment for claiming, as fact, that the results were fraudulent and for trying to overturn those results illegally.  That isn't the same thing as questioning them.  Millions of people, including those in high levels of local, state and federal government have questioned the results.
 I still don't know how that would impact TTV turning over their data.  If they (TTV) under investigation for "questioning the results", which I don't believe they are, I'd think the movie itself was more than enough evidence.

Why are they begging a judge to help them?
Do you have any inkling of critical thought? TTV, is, in no way obligated to help the Marxists in anyway!!!

You posted a bullshit article and now you own it!!!

Quote from: ZenMode on August 18, 2023, 07:29:08 AMPeople are coming under indictment for claiming, as fact, that the results were fraudulent

That is not a crime. Hillary did it, Abrams did it. Neither were arrested.

Quoteand for trying to overturn those results illegally.

And exactly how did they try to overturn the results? By trying to open up the results to investigation? By trying to get the process transparent?

QuoteThat isn't the same thing as questioning them.  Millions of people, including those in high levels of local, state and federal government have questioned the results.

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean, it's ok when the liberals do it, but not for conservatives. Up until now, no one has ever been indicted for questioning the results!!

QuoteI still don't know how that would impact TTV turning over their data.  If they (TTV) under investigation for "questioning the results", which I don't believe they are, I'd think the movie itself was more than enough evidence.

Stop pretending this forum is your own opinion platform.





 

Quote from: Possum on August 18, 2023, 09:48:30 AMThat is not a crime. Hillary did it, Abrams did it. Neither were arrested.

What the DA is alleging, which I don't think they will be successful in doing, it trying to portray this group of people as being apart of a conspiracy to

Quote from: Possum on August 18, 2023, 09:48:30 AMThat is not a crime. Hillary did it, Abrams did it. Neither were arrested.

And exactly how did they try to overturn the results? By trying to open up the results to investigation? By trying to get the process transparent?

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean, it's ok when the liberals do it, but not for conservatives. Up until now, no one has ever been indicted for questioning the results!!

Stop pretending this forum is your own opinion platform.

And exactly how did they try to overturn the results? By trying to open up the results to investigation? By trying to get the process transparent?

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean, it's ok when the liberals do it, but not for conservatives. Up until now, no one has ever been indicted for questioning the results!!

Stop pretending this forum is your own opinion platform.

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I don't believe that the case will be successful.  There's too much that has to be proven to paint the picture of a "conspiracy", but that's besides the point. 

What is the harm for TTV to turn over the data. If Georgia wants to investigate the claims... so?  Best case scenario, they actually find "mules", right?  Worst case is.... the government wastes a lot of their time chasing ghosts.  Either way, how does it impact TTV?

Quote from: ZenMode on August 18, 2023, 11:08:32 AMWhat the DA is alleging, which I don't think they will be successful in doing, it trying to portray this group of people as being apart of a conspiracy to

It is not just this group of people. If they will go after a former president, they will go after ANYONE. Nobody will be able to question any election without being indicted for conspiracy.

QuoteI don't believe that the case will be successful.

Successful for whom? We are talking about liberal hell holes. There is a good chance this D.A. and the others will go on to greater positions, win or lose, because they indicted Trump. If this turns out to be the huge stepping stone for advancement, there will be multiples to following. 

QuoteThere's too much that has to be proven to paint the picture of a "conspiracy", but that's besides the point.

If the jury is liberal, that will not matter. Just ask O.J.




 

What is the harm for TTV to turn over the data. If Georgia wants to investigate the claims... so?  Best case scenario, they actually find "mules", right?  Worst case is.... the government wastes a lot of their time chasing ghosts.  Either way, how does it impact TTV?

Quote from: ZenMode on August 18, 2023, 11:08:32 AMStop pretending this forum is your own opinion platform.



What is the harm for TTV to turn over the data. If Georgia wants to investigate the claims... so?  Best case scenario, they actually find "mules", right?  Worst case is.... the government wastes a lot of their time chasing ghosts.  Either way, how does it impact TTV?

I'll ask you this. Why should TTV help them in their investigation?

Quote from: Solar on August 18, 2023, 01:51:27 PMI'll ask you this. Why should TTV help them in their investigation?

because all of the time money and effort that they put into the project was to show that there was a ton of ballot harvesting going on. It seems that a state doing a full investigation, based on that work, would be exactly what they wanted. What they want is to show that they are correct and  put an end to ballot harvesting, right?

Quote from: ZenMode on August 18, 2023, 04:02:56 PMbecause all of the time money and effort that they put into the project was to show that there was a ton of ballot harvesting going on. It seems that a state doing a full investigation, based on that work, would be exactly what they wanted. What they want is to show that they are correct and  put an end to ballot harvesting, right?

Seriously? Are you really so dense as to think they want to help?              

Quote from: Solar on August 18, 2023, 06:19:48 PMSeriously? Are you really so dense as to think they want to help?              

Even if they aren't, which you don't know to be true especially when they have a Republican Secretary of State, what's the harm to TTV if they provide the details?

Quote from: ZenMode on August 19, 2023, 04:03:36 AMEven if they aren't, which you don't know to be true especially when they have a Republican Secretary of State, what's the harm to TTV if they provide the details?

If I were threatening to sue you, would you help me make my case?
Please tell me, you really aren't, this stupid?

Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2023, 04:46:43 AMIf I were threatening to sue you, would you help me make my case?
Please tell me, you really aren't, this stupid?

Georgia didn't jump to suing. TTV filed a complaint with Georgia regarding a variety of illegal things that they claim happened in 2020.

The Texas-based True the Vote group filed complaints with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in November 2021, including one saying it had received "a detailed account of coordinated efforts to collect and deposit ballots in drop boxes across metro Atlanta" during the 2020 general election and in a runoff election in January 2021.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-sues-true-the-vote-produce-evidence-mules-documentary-claims

Georgia is trying to investigate what TTV filed a complaint about!  Claims made by people who said they were paid to collect ballots,etc, but GA can't do it unless they can talk to the people and non-profits that TTV said we're involved.

True the Vote has refused to provide details and documents supporting its allegations that several unnamed organizations paid unnamed individuals $10 per absentee ballot delivered to drop boxes across metro Atlanta.

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The State Election Board subpoenaed True the Vote in April 2022, but pursuit of evidence has moved slowly since then.

The subpoenas sought documents, recordings, and names of people and organizations allegedly connected to ballot harvesting.


https://www.ajc.com/politics/true-the-vote-sued-over-refusal-to-show-evidence-from-2000-mules/5LWFD4FHI5G2TEF2PYTHEZWUEE/