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General Category => 2020 Election Coup => Topic started by: Solar on September 18, 2023, 06:35:26 PM

Title: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: Solar on September 18, 2023, 06:35:26 PM

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BREAKING: An election integrity group claims 10.9 million out of a total of 22.1 million ballots that had been mailed out to registered voters in California during the 2022 midterm elections went 'unaccounted for.'"
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: ZenMode on September 19, 2023, 01:42:53 AM
California sends ballots to all registered voters, but not everyone actually uses them.  I guess technically those are "unaccounted for", though an ambitious person could probably account for some if they dug through the landfills!!

Weber's office said of California's 22 million registered voters, 11 million of them voted, representing a voter turnout rate of about 50%, the lowest since 2014.

Election analysts note that although the turnout rate is lower, it doesn't mean actual turnout in California was low.

"We have exploded the number of people who have registered to vote in this state," said Paul Mitchell of Political Data Inc. Mitchell noted this election had the second most ballots cast for any gubernatorial election in state history, the first being the 2018 election.


https://www.kcra.com/article/california-voter-turnout-election-november-state-county/42271634
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: Solar on September 19, 2023, 06:29:31 AM
Quote from: ZenMode on September 19, 2023, 01:42:53 AMCalifornia sends ballots to all registered voters, but not everyone actually uses them.  I guess technically those are "unaccounted for", though an ambitious person could probably account for some if they dug through the landfills!!

Weber's office said of California's 22 million registered voters, 11 million of them voted, representing a voter turnout rate of about 50%, the lowest since 2014.

Election analysts note that although the turnout rate is lower, it doesn't mean actual turnout in California was low.

"We have exploded the number of people who have registered to vote in this state," said Paul Mitchell of Political Data Inc. Mitchell noted this election had the second most ballots cast for any gubernatorial election in state history, the first being the 2018 election.


https://www.kcra.com/article/california-voter-turnout-election-november-state-county/42271634
Well Duh! They had announced the state was issuing ballots regardless, which was literally designed with fraud in mind.
Odd though, the wife and I watched for the extra ballots that never arrived. That alone raised questions.
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: Sick Of Silence on September 19, 2023, 09:25:07 AM
Quote from: Solar on September 19, 2023, 06:29:31 AMWell Duh! They had announced the state was issuing ballots regardless, which was literally designed with fraud in mind.
Odd though, the wife and I watched for the extra ballots that never arrived. That alone raised questions.

They have a list of prior voting, so they didn't mail you any. They went to illegals, and "dead grandmas".
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: ZenMode on September 19, 2023, 10:47:47 AM
Quote from: Solar on September 19, 2023, 06:29:31 AMWell Duh! They had announced the state was issuing ballots regardless, which was literally designed with fraud in mind.
Odd though, the wife and I watched for the extra ballots that never arrived. That alone raised questions.
How do you know this?  A lot of states use mail-in voting and a lot of Republican state legislators support it.
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: VVet69 on September 19, 2023, 11:31:38 AM
 have said this before and I will say it again: The only valid mail-in ballot should be an ABSENTEE ballot which was specifically requested by the voter and validated by the local county election commission.  Its not that hard to do!

Bulk mail-in ballot mailings accomplish nothing but fraud...
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: Solar on September 19, 2023, 12:05:23 PM
Quote from: ZenMode on September 19, 2023, 10:47:47 AMHow do you know this?  A lot of states use mail-in voting and a lot of Republican state legislators support it.
Because they broke State laws to make it happen!
The fact that we did not get two extra ballots in the mail makes one question, where did it go?

How is this not sinking in?
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: ZenMode on September 19, 2023, 01:52:29 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 19, 2023, 12:05:23 PMBecause they broke State laws to make it happen!
The fact that we did not get two extra ballots in the mail makes one question, where did it go?

How is this not sinking in?
Which states did?  More than half the states had no-excuse mail in voting long before covid.  Pennsylvania's Republican legislature passed it during covid.
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: Possum on September 19, 2023, 03:32:56 PM
Quote from: ZenMode on September 19, 2023, 01:52:29 PMWhich states did? More than half the states had no-excuse mail in voting long before covid.  Pennsylvania's Republican legislature passed it during covid.

Alabama 
QuoteA federal judge temporarily suspended or limited some of Alabama's voting rules, including a ban on curbside voting and provisions related to the photo ID and witness requirements for absentee voting.

Arkansas 
QuoteArkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson has announced that all voters will be allowed to vote by absentee ballot in the November 2020 general election based on coronavirus concerns

California 
QuoteGovernor Newsom issued another executive order requiring each county to provide three days of in-person early voting

Connecticut 
QuoteSecretary of State Denise Merrill has announced a plan to send a mail-in ballot application to every registered voter in Connecticut ahead of the November 2020 general election.

Louisiana 
QuoteThe emergency election plan provided by Secretary of State Kyle Ardoin offers enhanced opportunities to vote by mail in the November election.

Maine 
QuoteGovernor Mills signed an executive order that allows all Maine voters to vote in the November 2020 election by placing absentee ballots in external drop boxes until 5 PM on the second business day before Election Day.

Maryland 
QuoteGovernor Hogan has ordered the Maryland State Board of Elections to send absentee ballot applications automatically to all qualified voters in the November general election.

Michigan 
Quotea judge in the Michigan Court of Claims added 69 days to the 180-day circulation window for collecting signatures for ballot petitions

Minnesota 
QuoteMinnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon has agreed to suspend the witness signature requirement for absentee ballots.

Montana 
QuotePursuant to a directive by Governor Steve Bullock, all Montana counties decided to conduct the June 2, 2020 primary election entirely by mail.


Nebraska 
QuoteIn response to the coronavirus pandemic, all eligible Nebraska residents were mailed early voting ballot applications for the May 12, 2020 primary election. On August 19, 2020, Secretary of State Bob Evnen announced that the state will mail an early voting ballot application for the November 3, 2020 general election to every registered voter whose county did not already do so.

New York 
QuoteGovernor Cuomo issued executive orders allowing all voters to use absentee ballots in the June 23, 2020 election and providing that absentee ballot applications be sent to all eligible New York voters.


North Dakota 
QuoteGovernor Doug Burgum issued an executive order in March 2020 that allowed any county to choose voting by mail as the only voting method for the June 9, 2020 primary election due to the coronavirus pandemic.

Rhode Island 
QuoteSeptember 11, 2020, Secretary of State Nellie M. Gorbea announced that her office will send all active registered voters a mail ballot application for the November 3, 2020 general election

South Dakota 
QuoteSecretary of State mailed absentee ballot applications to all registered voters (with some exceptions) for the June 2, 2020 primary election.

Tennessee 
QuoteTennessee Supreme Court vacated a temporary injunction entered by the Davidson County Chancery Court that allowed all Tennessee voters to request an absentee ballot for 2020 elections during the coronavirus pandemic

These states did not follow the U.S. Constitution for voting rules changes. Which makes those votes illegal. And no, it is NOT more than half the states that have had no-excuse mail-in voting before covid. You have not looked up the difference between absentee voting and mail-in voting like I asked you to in another post a long time ago.


This list does not even supply all the states where the governor changed the primary dates.

https://www.justia.com/covid-19/50-state-covid-19-resources/elections-during-covid-19-50-state-resources/#connecticut
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: ZenMode on September 19, 2023, 03:35:01 PM
Quote from: Possum on September 19, 2023, 03:32:56 PMAlabama 
Arkansas 
California 
Connecticut 
Louisiana 
Maine 
Maryland 
Michigan 
Minnesota 
Montana   

Nebraska 
New York 

North Dakota 
Rhode Island 
South Dakota 
Tennessee 
These states did not follow the U.S. Constitution for voting rules changes. Which makes those votes illegal. And no, it is NOT more than half the states that have had no-excuse mail-in voting before covid. You have not looked up the difference between absentee voting and mail-in voting like I asked you to in another post a long time ago.
To clarify, before I spend some amount of time researching, you're saying ALL of the states listed above added mail-in voting, or made some other illegal change,  because of Covid?
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: Possum on September 19, 2023, 03:42:24 PM
Quote from: ZenMode on September 19, 2023, 03:35:01 PMTo clarify, before I spend some amount of time researching, you're saying ALL of the states listed above added mail-in voting, or made some other illegal change,  because of Covid?
The states listed above did NOT use the state legislature to make voting rule changes. And yes, the changes were for covid. Please learn the difference between absentee voting and mail out, it's bad enough most politicians can not tell you the difference. There were other states that added mail out voting but did it by passing a law through the state legislature. Here is the link, I added it after it posted.

https://www.justia.com/covid-19/50-state-covid-19-resources/elections-during-covid-19-50-state-resources/#connecticut
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: Solar on September 19, 2023, 05:41:10 PM
Quote from: ZenMode on September 19, 2023, 01:52:29 PMWhich states did?  More than half the states had no-excuse mail in voting long before covid.  Pennsylvania's Republican legislature passed it during covid.
Stop moving the goal post! This about illegal voting in Ca.
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: ZenMode on September 19, 2023, 06:27:28 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 19, 2023, 05:41:10 PMStop moving the goal post! This about illegal voting in Ca.
perfect. The fact that some mail in ballots weren't used in California is not voter fraud. Any other questions?
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: Solar on September 20, 2023, 08:02:57 AM
Quote from: ZenMode on September 19, 2023, 06:27:28 PMperfect. The fact that some mail in ballots weren't used in California is not voter fraud. Any other questions?
They broke the law! How is that not Fraud?
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: ZenMode on September 20, 2023, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: Solar on September 20, 2023, 08:02:57 AMThey broke the law! How is that not Fraud?
What law did they break by offering voter the option to vote by mail?
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: Solar on September 20, 2023, 10:25:06 AM
Quote from: ZenMode on September 20, 2023, 09:43:50 AMWhat law did they break by offering voter the option to vote by mail?
It wasn't passed by the Legislature, it was an EO under the lie of health emergency!
How are you not getting this shit? They shut down the entire Nation over a LIE!
And you want to argue this shit?
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: ZenMode on September 20, 2023, 12:39:26 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 20, 2023, 10:25:06 AMIt wasn't passed by the Legislature, it was an EO under the lie of health emergency!
How are you not getting this shit? They shut down the entire Nation over a LIE!
And you want to argue this shit?
California had had no-excuse mail-in voting for over a decade.  What did they illegally change.
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: Solar on September 20, 2023, 01:27:15 PM
Quote from: ZenMode on September 20, 2023, 12:39:26 PMCalifornia had had no-excuse mail-in voting for over a decade.  What did they illegally change.
No, the Counties had that option, not the State! They broke the law, get over it!
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: ZenMode on September 20, 2023, 02:24:29 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 20, 2023, 01:27:15 PMNo, the Counties had that option, not the State! They broke the law, get over it!
Newsom signed a bill in June of 2020 making vote by mail a thing in California.  What is illegal about that?

Governor Newsom Signs Legislation to Fortify California's November 3, 2020 General Election for the COVID-19 Pandemic

SACRAMENTO, CA - Governor Gavin Newsom has signed AB 860—authored by Assemblymember Marc Berman with Senator Tom Umberg as a joint author—which codifies that county elections officials must mail a ballot to every registered, active voter ahead of the November 3, 2020 General Election.

"California is moving in a swift, bipartisan manner to fortify our democracy in the face of the COVID-19 pandemic," Secretary of State Alex Padilla said. "Expanding vote-by-mail statewide is a necessity to protect our right to vote and our public health. Voting by mail has worked safely and securely in California for decades. Mailing every voter a ballot for this election is simply common sense."

"A few simple measures in AB 860 will further strengthen and complement the expansion of vote-by-mail. Providing vote-by-mail tracking options to all California voters will improve voter confidence. Allowing lawfully cast vote-by-mail ballots to arrive to elections officials 17 days following the election will protect against any disruptions in the postal service. And affording elections officials more time to process vote-by-mail ballots will help with the efficiency of the vote count process for this unprecedented election."

"I want to thank Governor Newsom for signing AB 860 as soon as it reached his desk," said Assemblymember Marc Berman, Chair of the Assembly Elections and Redistricting Committee. "Californians will start voting in just over 100 days. In the midst of a deadly health pandemic, mailing a ballot to every California voter, and giving them the opportunity to vote from the safety of their own home, is the responsible thing to do. No Californian should have to risk their health – and possibly their life – to exercise their constitutional right to vote."

AB 860 provisions for the November 3, 2020 General Election:

Requires county elections officials to mail every active registered voter a ballot.
Requires every county elections officials to adopt a vote-by-mail ballot tracking system. Californians can sign up for the Secretary of State's "Where's My Ballot?" tool to receive automatic updates about the status of their vote-by-mail ballot by text (SMS), voice call, or email. Californians can sign-up at wheresmyballot.sos.ca.gov.
Requires that county elections officials process and count ballots that were postmarked on or before Election Day and arrive to elections officials no later than 17 days after Election Day. Under current law, vote-by-mail ballots that arrive more than three days after the election are not counted.
Allows county elections officials to begin processing returned vote-by-mail ballots 29 days before Election Day. Under current law, counties can begin processing vote-by-mail ballots 10 business days before an election. Results will still not be released until after all polls close on Election Night.

https://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/news-releases-and-advisories/2020-news-releases-and-advisories/ap20055-gov-newsom-signs-legislation-fortify-cas-1132020-general-election-covid-19-pandemic
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: Solar on September 20, 2023, 02:38:14 PM
Quote from: ZenMode on September 20, 2023, 02:24:29 PMNewsom signed a bill in June of 2020 making vote by mail a thing in California.  What is illegal about that?

Governor Newsom Signs Legislation to Fortify California's November 3, 2020 General Election for the COVID-19 Pandemic

SACRAMENTO, CA - Governor Gavin Newsom has signed AB 860—authored by Assemblymember Marc Berman with Senator Tom Umberg as a joint author—which codifies that county elections officials must mail a ballot to every registered, active voter ahead of the November 3, 2020 General Election.

"California is moving in a swift, bipartisan manner to fortify our democracy in the face of the COVID-19 pandemic," Secretary of State Alex Padilla said. "Expanding vote-by-mail statewide is a necessity to protect our right to vote and our public health. Voting by mail has worked safely and securely in California for decades. Mailing every voter a ballot for this election is simply common sense."

"A few simple measures in AB 860 will further strengthen and complement the expansion of vote-by-mail. Providing vote-by-mail tracking options to all California voters will improve voter confidence. Allowing lawfully cast vote-by-mail ballots to arrive to elections officials 17 days following the election will protect against any disruptions in the postal service. And affording elections officials more time to process vote-by-mail ballots will help with the efficiency of the vote count process for this unprecedented election."

"I want to thank Governor Newsom for signing AB 860 as soon as it reached his desk," said Assemblymember Marc Berman, Chair of the Assembly Elections and Redistricting Committee. "Californians will start voting in just over 100 days. In the midst of a deadly health pandemic, mailing a ballot to every California voter, and giving them the opportunity to vote from the safety of their own home, is the responsible thing to do. No Californian should have to risk their health – and possibly their life – to exercise their constitutional right to vote."

AB 860 provisions for the November 3, 2020 General Election:

Requires county elections officials to mail every active registered voter a ballot.
Requires every county elections officials to adopt a vote-by-mail ballot tracking system. Californians can sign up for the Secretary of State's "Where's My Ballot?" tool to receive automatic updates about the status of their vote-by-mail ballot by text (SMS), voice call, or email. Californians can sign-up at wheresmyballot.sos.ca.gov.
Requires that county elections officials process and count ballots that were postmarked on or before Election Day and arrive to elections officials no later than 17 days after Election Day. Under current law, vote-by-mail ballots that arrive more than three days after the election are not counted.
Allows county elections officials to begin processing returned vote-by-mail ballots 29 days before Election Day. Under current law, counties can begin processing vote-by-mail ballots 10 business days before an election. Results will still not be released until after all polls close on Election Night.

https://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/news-releases-and-advisories/2020-news-releases-and-advisories/ap20055-gov-newsom-signs-legislation-fortify-cas-1132020-general-election-covid-19-pandemic

Just so you know, this will be your last post until you address the issue over your false claims.
Every post after this one, will be scrutinized and possible deleted, or held for later.

All under the lie that Covid was a threat!!!!
Read the last line in the Bill.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB860
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: ZenMode on September 20, 2023, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 20, 2023, 02:38:14 PMJust so you know, this will be your last post until you address the issue over your false claims.
Every post after this one, will be scrutinized and possible deleted, or held for later.

All under the lie that Covid was a threat!!!!
Read the last line in the Bill.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB860
The governor can't write his own legislation. He can only sign the legislation that gets to his desk. You may not agree with the reasoning for expanding voting by mail, but that's much different than saying it's illegal. There is nothing illegal, that I can find, in the process by which voting by mail was implemented in California.
Title: Re: Another Ca Election Theft!
Post by: Solar on September 20, 2023, 04:46:40 PM
Quote from: ZenMode on September 20, 2023, 02:53:09 PMThe governor can't write his own legislation. He can only sign the legislation that gets to his desk. You may not agree with the reasoning for expanding voting by mail, but that's much different than saying it's illegal. There is nothing illegal, that I can find, in the process by which voting by mail was implemented in California.
Based on the very fact the Covid was a Complete Fabrication, makes all Legislation based on it, Fraudulent!