We get a lot of people coming through here touting the wonders of a 3rd party.
But what few seem to realize, is there is 34, 3rd party affiliations in the US.

So in truth, if the TEA were to become an official party, it would be a 35th party.
But if that isn't enough to convince you that it's a completely idiotic idea, how about the fact that it would literally split the GOP and ensure the Marxists retain power.

Are you so angry that you're willing to destroy the country, just to teach the RINO a lesson?
How about redirecting that anger into something constructive, like stealing the GOP for our selves, the TEA.

One other point, the TEA does not have the financial backing that would allow it to be on every state ballot in the Nation, think about that when it comes time to buy TV ads.

For more, go to Ballotpeda.
http://ballotpedia.org/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States

And no Suzzi, this wasn't directed at you, I've meant to do this for months, you merely reminded me of it.

Spot on.  There are plenty of other parties the RINO can join.  I suggest they join a nice Green party.  The Democrat party would welcome them with open arms.

We're not the ones on the run -- they are.  They can, and should, leave the party (and country).

Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2014, 09:18:39 PM
And no Suzzi, this wasn't directed at you, I've meant to do this for months, you merely reminded me of it.

??? I didn't bring up the notion of a 3rd party; I have commented in the past as to why it wouldn't work.  Third parties don't have the financial backing, advertising ability, and most of the time can't even manage to qualify to get on the ballot in all 50 states.  Ron Paul many times was asked to run again as 3rd party and obviously didn't, because he knew his chances were better under the Republican umbrella.  People need to vote for the candidate, not the party.  Yes,  I would love to see a 3rd party ideally seated in the oval office, but I agree with you completely, in this political climate it's just not going to happen, TEA or otherwise.   Not only do we have too many RINO's left in Congress, but some Republican voters still have the same RINO mentality.  IMO, its the young new Republicans that will spell victory for the TEA.

As of 2010, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats (tying a 22-year low), 29% as Republicans, and 38% as independents and as  I pointed out earlier, there are approximately, 63 million registered Democrats, 47 million registered Republicans and 32 million registered Independents.  With that being said, I believe that there are a lot of disgruntled Democrats who have finally opened their eyes to what Obama and cronies are doing and they will vote Republican this time around.  I anticipate that the Republicans will get more of the Independent vote as well.

Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2014, 08:09:28 PM
We get a lot of people coming through here touting the wonders of a 3rd party.
But what few seem to realize, is there is 34, 3rd party affiliations in the US.

So in truth, if the TEA were to become an official party, it would be a 35th party.
But if that isn't enough to convince you that it's a completely idiotic idea, how about the fact that it would literally split the GOP and ensure the Marxists retain power.

Are you so angry that you're willing to destroy the country, just to teach the RINO a lesson?
How about redirecting that anger into something constructive, like stealing the GOP for our selves, the TEA.

One other point, the TEA does not have the financial backing that would allow it to be on every state ballot in the Nation, think about that when it comes time to buy TV ads.

For more, go to Ballotpeda.
http://ballotpedia.org/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States

Well put. We must win from the inside and we are. We awill not win every battle, but look at what has happened since 2010. All the GOP state legislatures the GOP has won were not won by RINO's, but on conservative values. It is important we persevere. The TEA movement is still young and we are learning. We had to experience some flawed candidates and now we are we are doing a better job of vetting candidates. even when we lose, we win. These close calls get the attention of the establishment. It is all about diligence.

Quote from: taxed on July 25, 2014, 03:09:02 AM
Spot on.  There are plenty of other parties the RINO can join.  I suggest they join a nice Green party.  The Democrat party would welcome them with open arms.

We're not the ones on the run -- they are.  They can, and should, leave the party (and country).

True 'dat, taxed.  Another point, the border influx is a last ditch move by the progressives to get more votes because without them, they'll lose.  The stage to lose was set by the Democrats' idiotic policies and total corruptness.  America is waking up to all of this.  Will takeover happen over night?  I don't think so, but Rome wasn't built in a day either.  As someone else said here, we just have to keep on keeping on.   TEA will win if we do.

You forget that the Republican Party was, at one time, itself a "3rd" party. The name Republican was first used in 1854 - in six years they had put their candidate in the White House.

Oh, and I'm not just "passing through" I'm here to stay - your stuck with me! 

-Darth

Quote from: Darth Fife on July 25, 2014, 07:35:25 AM
You forget that the Republican Party was, at one time, itself a "3rd" party. The name Republican was first used in 1854 - in six years they had put their candidate in the White House.

Oh, and I'm not just "passing through" I'm here to stay - your stuck with me! 

-Darth

Where ya' been?

Quote from: Darth Fife on July 25, 2014, 07:35:25 AM
You forget that the Republican Party was, at one time, itself a "3rd" party. The name Republican was first used in 1854 - in six years they had put their candidate in the White House.

Oh, and I'm not just "passing through" I'm here to stay - your stuck with me! 

-Darth

Yet you poo poo the idea of a TEA takeover of an existing party?

You sound a tad bit confused these days when you claim the TEA hasn't a chance of stealing the party from the RINO. Then turn around and evidence my point with the historical facts that supports it?

Quote from: taxed on July 25, 2014, 07:37:50 AM
Where ya' been?

Running from boogieman.

Quote from: Solar on July 25, 2014, 07:43:28 AM
Running from boogieman.

Quote from: Darth Fife on July 25, 2014, 07:35:25 AM
You forget that the Republican Party was, at one time, itself a "3rd" party. The name Republican was first used in 1854 - in six years they had put their candidate in the White House.

Oh, and I'm not just "passing through" I'm here to stay - your stuck with me! 

-Darth

Hey Darth, I remember you from goupstate. 

Quote from: keyboarder on July 25, 2014, 08:50:39 AM
Hey Darth, I remember you from goupstate.

Thanks for jogging my memory. I also remember now.

Quote from: Solar on July 25, 2014, 07:42:47 AM
Yet you poo poo the idea of a TEA takeover of an existing party?

You sound a tad bit confused these days when you claim the TEA hasn't a chance of stealing the party from the RINO. Then turn around and evidence my point with the historical facts that supports it?

I don't see how that disproves my point.

If the Anti-Slavery members of the Whig Party could have taken control of the party, don't you think they would have done so? But, they couldn't they had to leave the party and form a coalition with members of the Know Nothing party...

As for the so-called immigration crisis, it is not a last ditch effort for anything. When will you guys realize that these Marxists don't just plan for the next election, they are planning for the next generation?

They know they have the power now, and they intend to keep that power for as long as they can. They don't need these voters for the next election, they need them and their children for the next 20 elections!

And, they'll have them thanks to the GOP!

-Darth

Quote from: Darth Fife on July 25, 2014, 03:52:34 PM
I don't see how that disproves my point.

If the Anti-Slavery members of the Whig Party could have taken control of the party, don't you think they would have done so? But, they couldn't they had to leave the party and form a coalition with members of the Know Nothing party...

As for the so-called immigration crisis, it is not a last ditch effort for anything. When will you guys realize that these Marxists don't just plan for the next election, they are planning for the next generation?

They know they have the power now, and they intend to keep that power for as long as they can. They don't need these voters for the next election, they need them and their children for the next 20 elections!

And, they'll have them thanks to the GOP!

-Darth

The fact that Conservatives are the majority in the country, as they were in the 1800s.
Nothing has changed, except for the fact that history is about to repeat itself.
The Whigs as, GOP are splitting,  and the Conservative base has the power, the only difference today, is TEA will steal an existing party, rather than start anew.

When the right loses it's moral core, it collapses, just as the Whigs did.