Started by Solar, July 04, 2012, 03:36:06 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 04, 2012, 09:50:33 AMYep, equally poor slaves to Govt.
Quote from: kramarat on July 04, 2012, 10:41:31 AMI get so tired of this, "Black experience", "Poor me", bullshit.mdgiles has a lot of great posts, but he should know better than to think that the "black" American, was the only person in history to be abused. Come on.
Quote from: Solar on July 04, 2012, 12:29:22 PMIt's the reason my great grand parents came here, to escape slavery, via communism.They were Joooos. I'm not, but my grand mother said on her death bed talking to my father. "Son, come closer, I have to tell you something", he leaned in close and she whispered in his ear very quietly, "We're Jewish".She was so afraid, she had kept that a secret more than 50 years.She was still afraid that once again they might start coming for the Jews, that she never uttered a word about it to anyone.
Quote from: kramarat on July 04, 2012, 08:33:32 AMYou're coming real close to pissing me off.Should I be mad because the Irish were considered second class citizens?Should I be mad because the Italians were considered second class citizens?Were you a slave? Let's go to the pit, and talk about how black people are the only f**king victims in history.The "black" experience, is a human experience. WTF makes you special?
Quote from: Solar on July 04, 2012, 09:37:58 AMWhy do I get the feeling that pointing out that whites were also slaves, you somehow interpret it as dismissing the plight of the black man?There was a time when everyone was subject to slavery, it just happened that white Americans had enough of it and fought to end it.
Quote from: kramarat on July 04, 2012, 08:46:49 AMHow many black people were gassed and burned in the Nazi ovens?
Quote from: kramarat on July 04, 2012, 09:19:08 AMKeep on believing brother....................black people are the only ones in history that were mistreated.http://mrbrownww2.pbworks.com/w/page/24477339/nazi%20holocaust(erica%20and%20caroline)How many black bodies do you see in that pit?
Quote from: mdgiles on July 04, 2012, 09:05:34 PMBecause both you and I know that white slavery was never on the scale that black slavery was, and usually the subject is only raised in order to minimize the overwhelming fact of how blacks were treated.
Quote from: kramarat on July 04, 2012, 01:06:41 PMThanks for sharing that. Being a victim is not a "black" experience. It's a human experience.Being a victim of sexual abuse, is not owned by women.We can look to the past and try to figure out what we are owed, or we can look to the future, and try to figure out what we can give.The choice is ours.The hurt that we have felt, knows no color. Nor will it stop. As soon as we stop trying to even the score, we can truly coexist. Everyone has a skill.
Quote from: mdgiles on July 04, 2012, 09:42:28 PMSigh . No one is trying to "even the score". But by the same token, pretending that nothing happened is just as bad. A great historical wrong was done, IN THIS COUNTRY. Telling me that people were also treated badly oceans away and centuries ago, isn't going to make that fact go away. Being told that you need to "get over it" - often by the descendents of the people who did "it" to you in the first place - has always struck me as a little self serving on their part.
Quote from: Solar on July 04, 2012, 09:40:53 PMIn America, that's true, but on a broader scale, that statement is pure bullshit!And no, the minimization is a delusion in your head!
Quote from: mdgiles on July 04, 2012, 10:41:48 PMBut the whole point of that "broader scale" is to minimize and downplay. As I noted, in a conversation on American history why are actions in other lands, in other eras even raised? And raised even when these asides have no connection with American history? The "big picture" is designed to make a "snapshot" look smaller.
Quote from: Solar on July 05, 2012, 12:28:37 AMIn Your Mind, maybe.It's like I always say.If you are offended by something I say, but I had absolutely no intention of being insulting to you or anyone else, then obviously, you have an issue.Here's another one, Life's a Bitch, we all had horrible experiences growing up, but it's also what makes us who we are.You can either grow from them, or lay in victim hood all your life. If you wonder why I point this out, it's because that's how you project yourself, as a victim.