Iva Toguri(Tokyo Rose) Falsely accused?

Started by ldub23, May 02, 2021, 08:18:55 PM

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ldub23

I dont think she deserved punishment and  many people dont  know the details  of what she  did. As you will see there was  no actual evidence supporting te  one  charge she was  found  guilty  of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrT3rILfIzA

Solar

For the sake of Christ, WTF is wrong with you and your inability to judge evil women?
The woman was a traitor for fucks sake, she was an American who escaped to Japan and worked for the enemy.

That's it, no more posting of this shit, find another hobby, but you're done pushing your idiocy on this forum!!!
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Quote from: ldub23 on May 02, 2021, 08:18:55 PM
I dont think she deserved punishment and  many people dont  know the details  of what she  did. As you will see there was  no actual evidence supporting te  one  charge she was  found  guilty  of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrT3rILfIzA
This is really doing a disservice.  
If my father were still alive (he fought vicious, entrenched Japanese fighters, witnessed his buddies dying, blown up, savagely killed, taking those islands, hand-to-hand combat, back from the Japs) - he'd hunt you down and beat the crap out of you and this TIK asshole.  This kind of crap is fighting words - I don't need to waste a click on it - mr. troller. 

In a single night, 3 of his buddies DIED dragging a spool of wire to a forward observing post, as Jap snipers were picking them off.  Finally our guys shot them out of the trees & rocks, as my dad under heavy fire, dragged the 4th spool of wire to the forward observing post.  He literally crawled OVER his dead & dying friends, both directions - if he read this kind of CRAP, I doubt I'd try to restrain his RAGE against YOU and your idiot Jerk.  He never told us the really horrific details, but nearly killed my mom, reliving in dreams, strangling Japs who had sneaked into his foxhole.  He said the only time they got sleep was when *our* shells were whistling overhead, pounding Jap positions.  He suffered for decades of nightmares, and died a YOUNG for all of us, and jerks like you and this TIK prick post total GARBAGE.

You have the ability to DELETE this thread - and your other revisionist threads, DO SO.
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Quote from: Solar on May 03, 2021, 04:44:48 AM
For the sake of Christ, WTF is wrong with you and your inability to judge evil women?
The woman was a traitor for fucks sake, she was an American who escaped to Japan and worked for the enemy.

That's it, no more posting of this shit, find another hobby, but you're done pushing your idiocy on this forum!!!

How  is she evil? She didnt escape to Japan. What would you  have done  in her  place?

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#4
https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/cfnq8y/is_tik_good_for_military_history/

This TIK guy is just rubbish, read it yourself.   I don't care if he occasionally stumbles onto the truth, "our side", like a blind squirrel occasionally finding a nut, or a stopped clock (right 2x a day).

All you're doing by posting his garbage, revisionist history, is telling us, you're either HIM, or an idiot.


I'm beginning to suspect you're just a CCP operative, trying to flood this system with garbage, to discourage discussion among Freedom loving Americans.  Some of the things you've posted, are just trolling crap - this is just another youtube video - your comments, IMO are betraying your purpose here, which is clearly not in anyone's interests for good, healthy, active Forum.
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ldub23

#5
You obviously didnt see the  video, Its not TIK, iTS  Mark Felton. When new evidence comes forth you need to re-evaluate your  mis-conceptions. Here is an article that  backs  up Mr Felton.

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/fascinating-story-tokyo-rose-american-woman-forced-broadcast-ww2-propaganda-japanese.html

"Surviving recordings and scripts show that Toguri never threatened bombings or hinted that the US servicemen's wives were being unfaithful back home which were two of the common tactics of wartime propaganda. Other Japanese announcers were more sinister in their approach. The US servicemen began calling all of the Japanese announcers by the same name, "Tokyo Rose." None of the announcers ever used the name, but the character became as familiar to American GIs as Emperor Hirohito."

You and  many others no doubt dont even know numerous different women were  lumped  under the  name  of Tokyo Rose. There  is zero evidence Iva Toguri committed treason.

"While there, she met Major Charles Cousens. Cousens was an officer in the Australian military who had been captured by the Japanese. Having been a successful radio announcer before the war, he was conscripted to produce the "Zero Hour" propaganda show. He and the other POWs working on the show defied the Japanese by making the show as harmless as possible. Cousens had the idea that Toguri would be perfect as a radio announcer. Toguri's voice was rough and masculine, the opposite of the sultry, seductive voice typically used in propaganda."

There  is also zero evidence she went to Japan to work for the  Japanese. And Major Cousens was found  not  guilty  of treason back in Australia. She was  out  in a very difficult situation. I suppose she  could  have simply refused and  been shot  or  beheaded.

"Trapped in Japan, the authorities tried to get her to renounce her US citizenship and swear her allegiance to Japan. She refused, unlike many other Americans in Japan at the time."

Many americans did renounce thier american citizenship to avoid harrassment  or death from the  Japanese govt. She did  not.

ldub23

Mark Felton Productions is creating History videos | Patreon
www.patreon.com › markfeltonproductions

Mark is a well-known British writer, the author of over 20 non-fiction books, including bestsellers Zero Night and Castle of the Eagles, both currently being developed into movies in Hollywood. He has written extensively on Japanese war crimes, POW camps, Nazi war criminals, the Holocaust, famous escapes and Hitler and other Nazi leaders.

By the way you  may be interested to know Dr Felton has written quite alot  on the  utter brutality  of the  Japanese. Many of his  videos  go into great detail on just how  many and  how  many brutal war crimes the  Japanese committed. When he gives evidence that  Iva Toguri did not  committ treason he  is quite believeable.

Solar

Quote from: ldub23 on May 03, 2021, 09:00:56 AM
How  is she evil? She didnt escape to Japan. What would you  have done  in her  place?
She left the US without passport or permission for Japan. You do the math!!
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Quote from: ldub23 on May 03, 2021, 09:31:35 AM
Mark Felton Productions is creating History videos | Patreon
www.patreon.com › markfeltonproductions

Mark is a well-known British writer, the author of over 20 non-fiction books, including bestsellers Zero Night and Castle of the Eagles, both currently being developed into movies in Hollywood. He has written extensively on Japanese war crimes, POW camps, Nazi war criminals, the Holocaust, famous escapes and Hitler and other Nazi leaders.

By the way you  may be interested to know Dr Felton has written quite alot  on the  utter brutality  of the  Japanese. Many of his  videos  go into great detail on just how  many and  how  many brutal war crimes the  Japanese committed. When he gives evidence that  Iva Toguri did not  committ treason he  is quite believeable.

No... you're just posting controversial CRAP, and you're already worn out any credibility you had, here and other places.    I'm not wasting *any* time watching Youtube videos, which lead nowhere, since you're not the author and contribute *nothing* to them!
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Solar

Quote from: Hoofer on May 05, 2021, 04:38:23 AM
No... you're just posting controversial CRAP, and you're already worn out any credibility you had, here and other places.    I'm not wasting *any* time watching Youtube videos, which lead nowhere, since you're not the author and contribute *nothing* to them!
The fact that they're still on youtube, is proof they're a rewrite of history. If they were true, they'd have already have been deleted.
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This is clearly an attempt to once again rewrite history for a political agenda.

As regards the claims about surviving recordings 'throwing doubt'?

There were HUNDREDS of her broadcasts and considering HOW MANY LETTERS there are written by servicemen who HEARD her say those things, to claim there is no real evidence is a flat out LIE.

Hoofer

Quote from: Solar on May 05, 2021, 05:54:22 AM
The fact that they're still on youtube, is proof they're a rewrite of history. If they were true, they'd have already have been deleted.

How do you have an honest discussion with someone who's not even here?
Just posting endless Youtube videos is bad enough, trying to find the most controversial, and then unable to defend the stupid things - just a Troll, trying to gum up the Forum with garbage.
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Quote from: Hoofer on May 05, 2021, 06:02:24 AM
How do you have an honest discussion with someone who's not even here?
Just posting endless Youtube videos is bad enough, trying to find the most controversial, and then unable to defend the stupid things - just a Troll, trying to gum up the Forum with garbage.
Keep in mind, this i a guy that writes letters to a serial killer.
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WTF...you're the one in love with that woman that received life in prison for killing everyone...and now this.
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Quote from: Bronx on May 16, 2021, 08:16:24 AMWTF...you're the one in love with that woman that received life in prison for killing everyone...and now this.
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