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Grandfather's hidden photos inspire Holocaust film

Started by Bronx, April 04, 2013, 05:01:50 AM

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Bronx

People sleep peacefully at night because there are a few tough men prepared to do violence on their behalf.

A foolish man complains about his torn pockets.

A wise man uses it to scratch his balls.

Mountainshield

Quote from: Bronx on April 04, 2013, 05:01:50 AM
This should never be forgotten and never be denied.

Grandfather's hidden photos inspire Holocaust film

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/grandfathers-hidden-photos-inspire-holocaust-film-060811442.html

Well talking about denying, the socialist government of germany is denying it and trying to forget, and the left is globally denying genocides all over the world being comitted by communist governments.

Lets not forget or deny the fact that the "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" were just that, socialist.

Sci Fi Fan

Quote from: Mountainshield on April 19, 2013, 10:44:24 PM
Lets not forget or deny the fact that the "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" were just that, socialist.

Nobody with even the faintest understanding of the time period would claim that the Nazi party was left wing just because it had "socialist" in it.  You do realize that Hitler himself despised communists and had them gassed to death, idolized the conservative icon Bismarck, and copied his idol's political tactics by creating a coalition between the center and right electorates, do you?  Any neo-nazi or white supremacist webpage today is intensely conservative have frequently insults and demonizes the left.  The notion that Nazism is a left wing invention is as ridiculous as those who claim that the French Revolution was conservative.   :lol:

AndyJackson

Hitler himself may have been conservative when all the facts and misdirection are sorted out, but like Obama, he gained a lot of power on the backs of liberal/socialist idiots who would follow him anywhere, even to genocide, for the promise of socialism.

He used and abused the marxist buffoons, along with various other foolish constituencies (bitter WW1 losers, aryan supremacists, etc) to get his hold on real power.

So, the issue isn't Hitler's deepest beliefs, but rather the useful idiots from the socialist mythology who helped to create Hitler.

Sci Fi Fan

Quote from: AndyJackson on May 01, 2013, 12:40:14 PM
Hitler himself may have been conservative when all the facts and misdirection are sorted out, but like Obama, he gained a lot of power on the backs of liberal/socialist idiots who would follow him anywhere, even to genocide, for the promise of socialism.

Hitler had socialists (not national socialists) and liberals gassed to death alongside Jews, gays, poles, etc.

They did not follow him.


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He used and abused the marxist buffoons,

No, he gassed them to death.  Similarly, when Mussolini was executed, communists went and spit on his body.  I don't think the fascist dictators were very leftist.  Take the Spanish civil war, for example, in which the fascist party joined the "Spanish Confederation of Autonomous Right-wing Groups". 

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So, the issue isn't Hitler's deepest beliefs, but rather the useful idiots from the socialist mythology who helped to create Hitler.

You mean idiots from socialist mythology such as Bismarck and Henry Ford? 

littlejohn69

May 07, 2013, 01:52:28 AM #5 Last Edit: May 07, 2013, 02:31:36 AM by walkstall


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Mountainshield

May 22, 2013, 03:09:04 AM #6 Last Edit: May 22, 2013, 03:13:20 AM by Mountainshield
Damn I didn't read Sci fi fan hilarious statements before now.  :laugh: Too bad he ran away. Oh well i might as well answer his post  :smile:

QuoteNobody with even the faintest understanding of the time period would claim that the Nazi party was left wing just because it had "socialist" in it.

And please give examples of National socialist policy that was not left wing, especially economic policies  :wink:

QuoteYou do realize that Hitler himself despised communists and had them gassed to death

Yes, but do you realize the differences between communist and nazis are so minuscule it is only the symbology and some lingustic propaganda that seperates them.
* Both are in favor of corporatism
* Both are dependent on state control of the commanding heights
* Both are dependent on secret police (The Gestapo was established with NKVD principles and council, of course you probably dont even know what the NKVD was until now)
*  Both are dependent on concentration camps of political opponents or ethnic undesirables
* Both are dependent on union control, only state unions are allowed to operate
* Both favor supression of free speech
* Both favor abolishment of christianity and other religions (Though the Nazis had their own occult elitist religion - see Ostara)
* Both are wholly dependent on the abolishment of private ownership of firearms

Quoteidolized the conservative icon Bismarck

Please read Mein Kampf, only reason Hitler liked Bismarck was because he unified Germany. It is also important to note that Bismarck loathed Hitler.

QuoteAny neo-nazi or white supremacist webpage today is intensely conservative have frequently insults and demonizes the left.

yes because totalitarians always wage war against other totalitarians.  :laugh:

QuoteThe notion that Nazism is a left wing invention is as ridiculous as those who claim that the French Revolution was conservative

Well thats what you leftist want us to think. Keep in mind you havent presented even one empirical valid argument in this post.

QuoteHitler had socialists (not national socialists) and liberals gassed to death alongside Jews, gays, poles, etc.

Please read history  :lol: Ever heard of the "Night of the long knives"? haha The more hardcore socialist wing of the NSDAP was mainly consistent of Ernst Julius Günther Röhm SA Party militia organization, he was planning a coup d'etat (at least this was Hitler and Himmlers fear) because he disliked the corporatist aspects of Hitler policies in working together with the captains of industry instead of simply nationalizing them. This lead Hitler to assasinate him. Socialism was still an integral part of NSDAP policy which can be empirically verified by studying the policies of the regime.  :laugh:

QuoteThey did not follow him.

Oh they followed him, the communists were gassed but the socialist marched hand in hand to their doom  :thumbsup:

QuoteI don't think the fascist dictators were very leftist.  Take the Spanish civil war, for example, in which the fascist party joined the "Spanish Confederation of Autonomous Right-wing Groups".

Yes the Spanish Civil war is an excellent exmaple of symbiosis between political traditionalists and left wing economic policy. Please tell me good sir how exactly was Franco free market? How exactly did he protect individual rights? :laugh: Of course he wasnt and your whole argument falls apart  :lol:

Is that all you got son?  :laugh: Please if others think National socialism were right wing try to argue it and make my day  :laugh:

Darth Fife

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on May 01, 2013, 10:37:55 AM
Nobody with even the faintest understanding of the time period would claim that the Nazi party was left wing just because it had "socialist" in it.  You do realize that Hitler himself despised communists and had them gassed to death, idolized the conservative icon Bismarck, and copied his idol's political tactics by creating a coalition between the center and right electorates, do you?  Any neo-nazi or white supremacist webpage today is intensely conservative have frequently insults and demonizes the left.  The notion that Nazism is a left wing invention is as ridiculous as those who claim that the French Revolution was conservative.   :lol:

Actually, I've been to more than a few neo-nazi/white surpremacist web pages.

You, obviously haven't. Or, you are lying.

If you had been there, you would realize that the overwhelming political ideology expressed there is  SOCIALISM. Some are even communists. Now, they don't believe in socialism for everybody - just the white folk - but they still are socialists.

Don't believe me? Try going to any neo-nazi website you wish and start quoting Milton Freedman, or Ayn Rand and see what happens!

Most are also statists. They believe in an all powerful central government (which they need to protect the rights of whites against the non-white hoards). They take their cues from their hero, Adolf Hitler.

The Neo-Nazis and the White Nationalists have far more in common with the American Left.

-Darth

daidalos

Quote from: Mountainshield on April 19, 2013, 10:44:24 PM
Well talking about denying, the socialist government of germany is denying it and trying to forget, and the left is globally denying genocides all over the world being comitted by communist governments.

Lets not forget or deny the fact that the "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" were just that, socialist.
But that is just it, everyone is supposed to have forgotten that the Nazi's were the "socialists" of Germany, and no one, but no one, (especially someone on the right) had better remember let alone point out that the very same policies pushed by them, are today being pushed by the socialists in this nation.
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simpsonofpg

22 years ago my wife did a story on a WWII vet who liveed as a guest of the Germans.  He had never even told his family of what happened.  It was hard to read.  This is what socialist countries do.
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