Started by Solar, August 26, 2012, 01:29:25 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 30, 2012, 10:01:24 AMTrue, but we did gut his power and any succeeding Emperor to follow.Compare that to Iraq.
Quote from: Solar on August 26, 2012, 01:29:25 AMI ask this because since WWII, we seem to have taken a "Morally Better Than The Enemy" approach where destruction is involved.
Quote from: Solar on August 26, 2012, 01:29:25 AMLets look at war over the millenia, it has always been about complete domination, conquer, spoils go to the winner, win at all costs.Granted, Hitler was exterminating POWs, but it was still inline with battles in history where killing your enemy was at the top of the list.
Quote from: Solar on August 26, 2012, 01:29:25 AMBut we seem to have forgotten that going to war is about survival, not that of the enemy, they are supposed to be expendable, but our own best interests seem to have been put under the guidelines of PCism..It seems that we have placed all life over our own when it comes to fighting the enemy, "don't kill that group of terrorists, there might be an innocent among them."
Quote from: Solar on August 26, 2012, 01:29:25 AMI think of how the extremists are taking over Egypt, like a cancer spreading, will we do what needs to be done when the time comes, or will we try and fight a protracted war protecting the innocent, one where the enemy will win through attrition?Just tossing it out for discussion....
Quote from: Solar on August 28, 2012, 07:34:27 AMLook at the treasure Nazi Germany looted from France and Italy, then compare it to Iraq, where we spent billions rebuilding the country and asked for nothing in return.
Quote from: Foreigner on August 30, 2012, 12:36:24 PMI wish that was what you would have taken. From my perspective, you acted more immoral in Vietnam than you did in WW2, and as a German who grew up with Hollywood I don't think that's what America should be doing.
QuoteOn the other hand, I'm not sure if those stories my grandma told me are true. Stories about American and German soldiers stopping to kill each other in December of '43 (I guess) and singing some Christmas song that has the same tune in America and Germany.
Quote(Not to mention Americans giving away chocolate and cigarettes after the war, something that seems to have made a very positive impression on people here in Germany back then. At least my grandmas first memory of ever seeing a black person involves that kind of thing happening.)
QuoteIs this how you want the world to be? In times of globalization and nuclear bombs?
QuoteYou're completely under-estimating the power of the values America is supposed to spread. Also I think you're being a bit disgusting here, sorry.
QuoteIf you want to take 20th century war stuff to good use, study how the Nazis pulled their propaganda off here in Germany and put that to a better use to spread the American Way. I'm serious.
QuoteWow, you're comparing 21st century America to Nazi Germany. Now I'm really disgusted.