China, The Next War

Started by Solar, September 02, 2020, 06:03:43 PM

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Quote from: CoolDancer on April 27, 2021, 03:56:20 AM
If we go to war with China, it should NOT be because of Taiwan. A better reason would be the Chinese Navy trying to control the sea lanes and interfering with trade.
It doesn't need to be an either or reason - Chinese expansion into international shipping lanes, basically gobbling up territory - while our President (not Trump), almost encouraged them to do so.  Meh... what a couple of Reefs between friends - go ahead!

Kinda surprised, the environmentalists weren't pitching a fit - Oh, wait, they're all in the same Marxist's camp, hate America, death to capitalism!
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Quote from: Hoofer on April 27, 2021, 04:05:14 AM
It doesn't need to be an either or reason - Chinese expansion into international shipping lanes, basically gobbling up territory - while our President (not Trump), almost encouraged them to do so.  Meh... what a couple of Reefs between friends - go ahead!

Kinda surprised, the environmentalists weren't pitching a fit - Oh, wait, they're all in the same Marxist's camp, hate America, death to capitalism!

If America goes to war with China, it will be a long, bloody and costly battle. I'm not sure that people would band together like they did in WWII. As we saw with the hoarding of toilet paper, hand sanitizer and such, people only care about themselves. It's interesting to me that the pundits are now talking "war" but, when President Trump was negotiating all of the peace deals, all the Democrats could talk about is how President Trump was going to get us into a war...
RV

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Steel Shark

War is over.

Those with intelligence no longer fire bombs.

Kids with no better path do not die "for the good of the nation,  or god".

Our brains have done better than our predecessor's could have imagined and we actually see the future.

Solar

The answer lies in timing. If the CCP attacks Taiwan soon, then it will be up to Taiwan and how much they value independence, because The Biteme administration will do nothing but talk. Taiwan will be on their own.
So, expect China to move very soon, they know they have a small window to work within, because Trump is coming back and the free world will stand against the Commie scum if the US shows strength.

If we don't, free world trade will end and the CCP will own the water ways. It really is that simple.
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Quote from: Steel Shark on April 27, 2021, 06:03:13 AM
War is over.

Those with intelligence no longer fire bombs.

Kids with no better path do not die "for the good of the nation,  or god".

Our brains have done better than our predecessor's could have imagined and we actually see the future.

Cyber War... could bring America to surrender in hours, instead of months or years.

The call for American Patriots ... if they still exists, are old men, still refusing to give up what they fought for, leaving the young Communist generation to betray them to their Marxist masters.... in exchange for 15 seconds of Youtube fame.
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Quote from: Steel Shark on April 27, 2021, 06:03:13 AM
War is over.

Those with intelligence no longer fire bombs.

Kids with no better path do not die "for the good of the nation,  or god".

Our brains have done better than our predecessor's could have imagined and we actually see the future.

Laugh out loud! "War is over"? Tell THAT to the Communists, the Dictators and the haters of America, freedom and liberty.

"Those with intelligence no longer fire bombs". Keep telling yourself that as people are murdered with bombs, machine gun fire, chemical weapons and such.

"Kids  with no better path do not die "for the good of the nation,  or god". That's what makes me afraid, the people who will fight and die are the older people. Meanwhile the young who could fight won't because they'd much rather surf the Internet or play some type of video game.

"Our brains have done better than our predecessor's could have imagined and we actually see the future." Hmmm, so the election fraud was "seen" and allowed to occur anyway? The chaos, riots, Chaz was "seen"? The murders, assaults, etc. were "seen" in advance yet allowed to happen anyway? We cannot forget the chaos that surrounds this hoax of a "pandemic". That was also "seen" in advance and yet allowed? Seems like you haven't a clue!
RV

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Quote from: Steel Shark on April 27, 2021, 06:03:13 AM
War is over.

Those with intelligence no longer fire bombs.

Kids with no better path do not die "for the good of the nation,  or god".

Our brains have done better than our predecessor's could have imagined and we actually see the future.

nominated for dumbest post of the day!

Solar

Quote from: winterset on April 27, 2021, 10:12:11 AM
nominated for dumbest post of the day!
I'm guessing he's young, and if that's the case, I hope his generation won't fold as easily as he demonstrates.
We've failed to educate these kids on the evils of socialism/communism.
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Philippines FM tells China to 'Get the Fuck out' in tweet over South China Sea dispute

Teodoro Loscin, the Philippine foreign minister, took to Twitter on Monday to criticize China over what he called Beijing's illegal activities in the South China Sea, a report said.

"China, my friend, how politely can I put it? Let me see...O...GET THE F--- OUT," he posted on his personal account without the censor. His tweet continued, "What are you doing to our friendship? You. Not us. We're trying. You. You're like an ugly oaf forcing your attentions on a handsome guy who wants to be a friend; not to father a Chinese province."

Reuters reported that Manila has voiced opposition to what it sees as Beijing's encroachment on its 200-mile Exclusive Economic Zone.

NPR reported in March that China had about 220 vessels at the Whitsun Reef, which is claimed by the Philippines, China and Vietnam. Delfin Lorenzana, the Philippine defense minister, told the news outlet that the territory is within Manila's exclusive zone under established international law.

Countries in the area have reported what seems to be a more assertive China.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/philippines-fm-tells-china-to-get-the-f-out-in-tweet-over-south-china-sea-dispute
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Quote from: Solar on May 03, 2021, 05:00:19 AM
Philippines FM tells China to 'Get the Fuck out' in tweet over South China Sea dispute

Teodoro Loscin, the Philippine foreign minister, took to Twitter on Monday to criticize China over what he called Beijing's illegal activities in the South China Sea, a report said.

"China, my friend, how politely can I put it? Let me see...O...GET THE F--- OUT," he posted on his personal account without the censor. His tweet continued, "What are you doing to our friendship? You. Not us. We're trying. You. You're like an ugly oaf forcing your attentions on a handsome guy who wants to be a friend; not to father a Chinese province."

Reuters reported that Manila has voiced opposition to what it sees as Beijing's encroachment on its 200-mile Exclusive Economic Zone.

NPR reported in March that China had about 220 vessels at the Whitsun Reef, which is claimed by the Philippines, China and Vietnam. Delfin Lorenzana, the Philippine defense minister, told the news outlet that the territory is within Manila's exclusive zone under established international law.

Countries in the area have reported what seems to be a more assertive China.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/philippines-fm-tells-china-to-get-the-f-out-in-tweet-over-south-china-sea-dispute

Why shouldn't China be "more assertive"? After all, they successfully installed a U.S. President, they successfully rigged a Presidential election in the U.S. and they have a U.S. President at their bidding. What's not to be excited and assertive about?
RV

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Donald H

There's little doubt that Biden and the Dems are actively ratcheting up the hate propaganda against China. So are it should be seen as just 'rallying the troops' instead of any possibility of military action being taken against China.

But will the Dems and Biden throw all caution to the wind with a military challenge to China?

Solar

Quote from: Donald H on May 03, 2021, 10:38:28 AM
There's little doubt that Biden and the Dems are actively ratcheting up the hate propaganda against China. So are it should be seen as just 'rallying the troops' instead of any possibility of military action being taken against China.

But will the Dems and Biden throw all caution to the wind with a military challenge to China?
Why would they, the DNC is in bed with the CCP...
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Quote from: Solar on May 03, 2021, 02:24:58 PM
Why would they, the DNC is in bed with the CCP...

I'm sure that there is a monetary angle that is not obvious. Maybe China wants "War" so they can be built back up by the U.S. or possibly Bejing and Komrad stand to gain monetarily. It could even be that Bejing Biden hopes to allow China to take over the U.S.

There is no question in my mind that the Democrats want "war", I just haven't figured out their benefit yet.
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Solar

Quote from: RV on May 04, 2021, 09:56:54 AM
I'm sure that there is a monetary angle that is not obvious. Maybe China wants "War" so they can be built back up by the U.S. or possibly Bejing and Komrad stand to gain monetarily. It could even be that Bejing Biden hopes to allow China to take over the U.S.

There is no question in my mind that the Democrats want "war", I just haven't figured out their benefit yet.
That's it in a nutshell, the CCP wants global domination.
War would be nothing more than a distraction and a way to divide the nation even further. Think Nam, we didn't lose, the Marxists brainwashed the country with propaganda designed to pit those under 30 against actual adults.

Remember the slogan, "Trust no one over 30". That was Marxist generated. If a war broke out, that would be the very definition of the next divide in the country, kid refusing to support the country for us old capitalists.

This has been a plan in the making for decades.
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Conflict with China a 'high likelihood', says top Australian general


One of the nation's top military commanders told his troops that Beijing is already engaged in "grey zone" warfare against Australia and they must plan for the high likelihood this may spill over into actual conflict in the future.

The candid and confidential briefing by Major-General Adam Findlay to Australia's special forces soldiers last year gives the most detailed insight yet made public into how the nation's top military planners view the threat of China.

The then-special forces commander, who has since stepped down but who still advises the Australian Defence Force, highlighted the steps Australia's military was taking to prevent war but also described a "high likelihood" that actual conflict could break out due to the unpredictable nature of foreign affairs.

"Who do you reckon the main [regional] threat is?" General Findlay asked his troops and officers before answering: "China".

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Details of the April 2020 briefing have been obtained by The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald from multiple sources who have requested to remain anonymous because they are not authorised to speak publicly. They say General Findlay told his troops that, if the threat of conflict was realised, the ADF needed to rely not only on traditional air, land and sea capabilities but also on Australia's ability to use cyber and space warfare.

He also highlighted the need for the ADF to reassert its presence and play "first grade" in south-east Asia and the south-west Pacific, describing how the military had uncovered information showing China was seeking to exploit "our [Australia's] absence" in the region.

"We need to make sure we don't lose momentum ... get back in the region," General Findlay said, highlighting Australia's close ties to Indonesia.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/conflict-with-china-a-high-likelihood-says-top-australian-general-20210503-p57ogv.html
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