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General Category => War Forum => Topic started by: Solar on September 02, 2020, 11:03:43 AM

Title: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on September 02, 2020, 11:03:43 AM
I say that because Trump is squeezing them around the globe and like a caged animal, they are striking out.


Indian soldier killed in latest border fight with China


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Nyima Tenzin, 51, was killed by a gunshot to the neck, the Tibet Sun cited sources as saying. With 33 years of service, he held the rank of company leader and was said to be from a Tibetan settlement in Choglamsar near Ladakh's capital Leh.

One of his juniors, Tenzin Loden, 24, reportedly sustained injuries, the Tibet Sun said. Indian media also reported injuries to scores of Chinese soldiers.

Both Indian soldiers were from the seventh battalion of the Special Frontier Force (SFF), a unit made up of ethnic Tibetans under the Indian army. The Tibetan unit is also known as the Vikas battalion.

The latest conflict followed intensified tensions between China and India in the wake of a clash in the region in June that left 20 Indian soldiers dead.

According to Indian media, People's Liberation Army troops of China on Saturday invaded the southern bank of Pangong Lake — which was under Indian military control — captured strategic locations and began building fortifications. Ethnic Tibetan soldiers stationed nearby intervened to prevent the PLA group from setting up the structures, and dozens of PLA soldiers were injured.

No firing at the site was reported. The SFF was deployed and recaptured the crucial vantage points on the same night.

The Indian Army on Monday said: "PLA troops violated previous consensus arrived at during military and diplomatic engagements during an ongoing standoff in Ladakh and carried out provocative military movements to change the status quo."
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on September 02, 2020, 10:53:09 PM
Good News!
Jimmy Lai owner of a free press called Apple Daily found not guilty. But this isn't over, the commies will probably just kill him in the end, can't have have someone printing the truth about the CCP..

Hong Kong Court finds Jimmy Lai not guilty of intimidation

The founder of Apple Daily has denied one count of intimidating a reporter from Oriental Daily, a rival tabloid to his pro-democracy newspaper Apple Daily, during the annual candlelight vigil at Victoria Park on June 4, 2017.

X, the concerned reporter who was granted anonymity by the court, said on the first day of trial that he was threatened by Lai when Lai scolded him with foul language. Lai warned X that he would get someone to "give you a hard time", after the reporter took intrusive photos of Lai.

X admitted earlier in court that himself and other members of the newspaper have been following Lai around the clock since 2014.

West Kowloon Magistrate Court delivered its ruling on the case on Thursday afternoon.

Several audience members applauded the court's decision, who were quickly stopped by the security guard.

Magistrate May Chung said the prosecution should prove that Lai's action would cause bodily harm to the reporter, and that he had the intention to threaten X.

Chung said X was not honest or credible, as he tried to fend off simple questions in court.

The reporter was diagnosed with adjustment disorder, said the prosecution in their opening statement last week. But Chung questioned whether it was caused by Lai's remarks.

Lai said earlier that his words meant taking legal actions or reporting to the police, so as to stop the harassment from X. Chung accepted his explanation, agreeing that "giving a hard time" does not necessarily refer to threatening to cause bodily harm.

https://hk.appledaily.com/us/20200903/JLQ5HDFJMZGJBFX5JRU3PINC7U/

Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on September 08, 2020, 12:26:52 PM
Made in China... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1303516751855054851
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Possum on September 08, 2020, 09:48:52 PM
https://zeenews.india.com/india/china-plotting-big-conspiracy-against-india-as-it-deploys-three-battalions-along-lac-2308472.html

Both have huge armies, I would think the loyalty of the Indian army would better better than the china army. 
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on September 08, 2020, 10:30:13 PM
Quote from: Possum on September 08, 2020, 09:48:52 PM
https://zeenews.india.com/india/china-plotting-big-conspiracy-against-india-as-it-deploys-three-battalions-along-lac-2308472.html

Both have huge armies, I would think the loyalty of the Indian army would better better than the china army.
Yep, India has a lot of pride at stake here.
Not to mention, India hasn't pissed off and pissed on the world like China. This could wind up being a proxy war against us in a way and one China can't win, only sacrifice people for the cause.

I have faith in Trump in arranging the deck as needed. :cool:
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: supsalemgr on September 08, 2020, 11:50:56 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 08, 2020, 10:30:13 PM
Yep, India has a lot of pride at stake here.
Not to mention, India hasn't pissed off and pissed on the world like China. This could wind up being a proxy war against us in a way and one China can't win, only sacrifice people for the cause.

I have faith in Trump in arranging the deck as needed. :cool:

The one wild card is the Chi Coms will not be reluctant to sacrifice their own people for "the cause".
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on September 09, 2020, 02:04:00 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 08, 2020, 11:50:56 PM
The one wild card is the Chi Coms will not be reluctant to sacrifice their own people for "the cause".
True, but like Tienanmen Square, when the soldiers found out the truth, they were pissed that they killed so many kids. CCP can only hide so much and when they find out how many lives are being sacrificed, they could wind up with a rebellion on their hands.

I only say that because the CCP is now hated more than ever by the people, they're walking a tightrope after all the deaths/murders from the CCP Flu.
Things aren't going well for the commies, add to that all the flooding, the 3 Gorges dam failing, never having lived up to promises, after having uprooted a million people with family roots of more than a thousand years on the land.   

If that dam fails, The CCP will need to have an even bigger crisis. I expect the CCP to lash out for distraction in the form of war and India could be the first recipient.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Possum on September 09, 2020, 02:13:35 AM
Quote from: Solar on September 09, 2020, 02:04:00 AM
True, but like Tienanmen Square, when the soldiers found out the truth, they were pissed that they killed so many kids. CCP can only hide so much and when they find out how many lives are being sacrificed, they could wind up with a rebellion on their hands.

I only say that because the CCP is now hated more than ever by the people, they're walking a tightrope after all the deaths/murders from the CCP Flu.
Things aren't going well for the commies, add to that all the flooding, the 3 Gorges dam failing, never having lived up to promises, after having uprooted a million people with family roots of more than a thousand years on the land.   

If that dam fails, The CCP will need to have an even bigger crisis. I expect the CCP to lash out for distraction in the form of war and India could be the first recipient.
Then you also have this, https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4005031
Makes you wonder if china has to keep their military busy and spread out to stop or delay a civil war?
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on September 09, 2020, 05:18:08 AM
Quote from: Possum on September 09, 2020, 02:13:35 AM
Then you also have this, https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4005031
Makes you wonder if china has to keep their military busy and spread out to stop or delay a civil war?
I love this!
The CCP is quickly learning just how much power and sway Trump has. The world is coming to side with Taiwan. If they do anything, they will quickly see a global blockade of all their goods.
Title: China Can't Even Make A Propaganda Film Without Stealing From The US
Post by: Solar on September 22, 2020, 12:49:05 PM



https://twitter.com/i/status/1308575968697688067
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Skull on October 07, 2020, 01:48:15 PM
Although this new 9km tunnel is presented as simply a way to shorten the commute times between Ladak & India, the PLA of China must be worried about India using it for invasion or a quick response to any commie adventures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEGIe6td0Tc&t=200s
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: MikeDwight on October 07, 2020, 11:12:55 PM
I posted erroneously... The first measure is that we cancel the debt? That's worth 100,000 American lives, I'm just speculating...
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on October 07, 2020, 11:25:24 PM
Quote from: MikeDwight on October 07, 2020, 11:12:55 PM
I posted erroneously... The first measure is that we cancel the debt? That's worth 100,000 American lives, I'm just speculating...
Your every post has been erroneous!
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Possum on October 08, 2020, 09:25:47 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 07, 2020, 11:25:24 PM
Your every post has been erroneous!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

So glad to hear that, I took a bad bump on the head a couple of days ago and thought I was having effects from that.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on October 08, 2020, 11:18:39 PM
Quote from: Possum on October 08, 2020, 09:25:47 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

So glad to hear that, I took a bad bump on the head a couple of days ago and thought I was having effects from that.
Yeah, definitely hiding his true intentions as a racist self loathing anti Christian etc. It wouldn't have been long before he was shitting all over the forum.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on October 13, 2020, 10:21:03 PM
Trump Just Sent A Strong Signal To The CCP!

For those not paying close attention to the issues facing Taiwan, the CCP is attempting to do to them, what they did to Hong Kong, fuck them over royally.
Taiwan has no intentions of bending over, they plan to stand and fight. Their initial plan was sacrifice, they planned on dying for the cause and leaving China with a burned out rock, but then along came Trump.

He is selling Taiwan virtually everything they ask for, tells Congress only after the fact, because he knows if they got wind, all the never Trumpers and Dims would throw a fit.
Anyway, now the CCP has two options, save face and keep a safe distance, or risk having the world see them get their Paper Tiger asses get kicked before the world court
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The White House is moving forward with three sales of advanced weaponry to Taiwan, sending in recent days a notification of the deals to Congress for approval, five sources said on Monday, while China threatened retaliation.

The move in the run-up to the Nov. 3 U.S. election, first reported by Reuters, is likely to anger China, which considers Taiwan a wayward province that it has vowed to reunite with the mainland, by force if necessary.

Reuters broke the news in September that as many as seven major weapons systems were making their way through the U.S. export process as the Trump administration ramps up pressure on China.

Leaders of the Senate Foreign Relations and House of Representatives Foreign Affairs committees were notified that three of the planned weapons sales had been approved by the U.S. State Department which oversees foreign military sales, said the sources, who are familiar with the situation but declined to be identified.

The informal notifications were for a truck-based rocket launcher made by Lockheed Martin Corp called a High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS), long-range air-to-ground missiles made by Boeing Co called SLAM-ER, and external sensor pods for F-16 jets that allow the real-time transmission of imagery and data from the aircraft back to ground stations.

Notifications for the sale of other weapons systems, including large, sophisticated aerial drones, land-based Harpoon anti-ship missiles and underwater mines, to deter amphibious landings, have yet to reach Capitol Hill, but these were expected soon, the sources said.

A State Department spokesman said: "As a matter of policy, the United States does not confirm or comment on proposed defense sales or transfers until they are formally notified to Congress."

More~~~

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-taiwan-arms-exclusive/exclusive-white-house-asks-congress-to-approve-three-arms-sales-to-taiwan-sources-idUSKBN26X246
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Possum on October 26, 2020, 12:13:44 AM
https://www.oann.com/japan-and-u-s-begin-major-military-exercise-as-concern-about-china-grows/

Wonder who China wants to be the next president?
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: joesixpack on October 26, 2020, 12:17:29 AM
Quote from: Possum on October 26, 2020, 12:13:44 AM
https://www.oann.com/japan-and-u-s-begin-major-military-exercise-as-concern-about-china-grows/

Wonder who China wants to be the next president?

Since they're leaking out footage of Biden's son having sex in order to derail his campaign I think they might be in support of Trump 2020
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on October 26, 2020, 12:23:16 AM
Quote from: joesixpack on October 26, 2020, 12:17:29 AM
Since they're leaking out footage of Biden's son having sex in order to derail his campaign I think they might be in support of Trump 2020
No! The guy who leaked the pics hates the CCP. Do your homework troll!
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Possum on October 26, 2020, 12:26:13 AM
Quote from: joesixpack on October 26, 2020, 12:17:29 AM
Since they're leaking out footage of Biden's son having sex in order to derail his campaign I think they might be in support of Trump 2020
Where have you seen that it is the Chinese leaking the information? What I have seen has come from business partners, hunters laptop, family members, etc. I have not seen anywhere that the Chinese/communist party is doing anything other than letting Joe know he is compromised. Do you have a poll that shows otherwise?
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: joesixpack on October 26, 2020, 12:56:51 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 26, 2020, 12:23:16 AM
No! The guy who leaked the pics hates the CCP. Do your homework troll!

I stand corrected
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Skull on October 26, 2020, 01:13:43 AM
This site has coverage about China's severe internal problems - food shortages - financial collapse - floods - locusts eating crops etc.

This particular story concerns threatening Pakistan...

https://tfiglobalnews.com/2020/10/26/china-has-given-two-choices-to-pakistan-and-either-way-pakistan-will-starve/ (https://tfiglobalnews.com/2020/10/26/china-has-given-two-choices-to-pakistan-and-either-way-pakistan-will-starve/)
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on October 26, 2020, 01:30:53 AM
Quote from: Skull on October 26, 2020, 01:13:43 AM
This site has coverage about China's severe internal problems - food shortages - financial collapse - floods - locusts eating crops etc.

This particular story concerns threatening Pakistan...

https://tfiglobalnews.com/2020/10/26/china-has-given-two-choices-to-pakistan-and-either-way-pakistan-will-starve/ (https://tfiglobalnews.com/2020/10/26/china-has-given-two-choices-to-pakistan-and-either-way-pakistan-will-starve/)
Proof Trump has China scared, I'll explain. China sees the corral fences going up, the world is having its fill of communist expansion.
Trump bringing India in as an ally forced China to move in a direction it wasn't ready to and is pushing Pakistan into a corner.

This will play Right into Trump's plan of expanded world peace because Pakistan will look to the West for security, in turn, ending aggressions between India and pakistain.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Skull on October 26, 2020, 02:07:04 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 26, 2020, 01:30:53 AM
Proof Trump has China scared, I'll explain. China sees the corral fences going up, the world is having its fill of communist expansion.
Trump bringing India in as an ally forced China to move in a direction it wasn't ready to and is pushing Pakistan into a corner.

This will play Right into Trump's plan of expanded world peace because Pakistan will look to the West for security, in turn, ending aggressions between India and pakistain.

Sounds good & hopeful! 

A related story from the same site I think, is about overseas Chinese folk in Malaysia and elsewhere.  Thanks to the CCP virus producing anti-Chinese feelings, plus the value of their own monies in Chinese banks dropping, they no longer wish to live away from the homeland.  That fact only concerns the very wealthy Chinese outside China.  The beleaguered masses in China want out.  Whether leaving physically or joining the underground movement to destroy the CCP control over their ancient nation - who knows which group is larger.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on October 26, 2020, 02:25:08 AM
Quote from: Skull on October 26, 2020, 02:07:04 AM
Sounds good & hopeful! 

A related story from the same site I think, is about overseas Chinese folk in Malaysia and elsewhere.  Thanks to the CCP virus producing anti-Chinese feelings, plus the value of their own monies in Chinese banks dropping, they no longer wish to live away from the homeland.  That fact only concerns the very wealthy Chinese outside China.  The beleaguered masses in China want out.  Whether leaving physically or joining the underground movement to destroy the CCP control over their ancient nation - who knows which group is larger.
Yep, no doubt the CCP is in the midst of an uprising. I've been reading a lot about groups opposing CCP rule, though they have yet to unite out of fear, but it is just the beginning.
It could be decades before we see the beginning of a civil war and a splintering of provinces. I believe Taiwan may be the match that ignites the fire within, and be the beginning of the end for the commies.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on October 31, 2020, 03:44:50 AM
Trump is killing the CCP! Italics mine
The question is, will the commies be stupid enough to go to war over it? They've been ripping us off for decades and Trump brought it to a halt.

Systemic Failure and Strategic Defeat: The Microchip Front in the Sino-US Trade War

By Cheng Xiaonong

The unfortunate fate of Fujian Jinhua Integrated Circuit, one of China's three major major microchip firms, serves as a window for determining the success of China's strategy of trying to play technological catch-up. It also provides a good through through the fog of war on the "battlefield" of intellectual property disputes between China and the United States. In the competition between high-tech countries, China's blatant strategy of theft has hit a nerve with the Trump administration's policies.

In summary, the Commies are in essence decades behind us in development, and in the computer world, that's akin to Windows 3-1 compared to everything today.

In 1990, the State Planning Commission and the Ministry of Electrical and Mechanical Services decided to implement its "Microchip Project 908" for the civilian market. Using the Wuxi Tongzhi Microelectronics Co. Ltd., (i.e. the Huajing Electronics Group)—which came about as a merger of the Jiangnan Radio Equipment Factory and the 24th Laboratory of the Electronics Department—as its base, meticulous designs by researchers and entrepreneurs, repetitive verification of proposals, and 2 billion yuan in government investment were committed in hopes of being able to, in one fell swoop, narrow the gap between Chinese microchips and those produced internationally.

The project failed, given its state-run constraints. With the establishment to production phase lasting seven years (two years for funding approval, three years for the introduction of the production line from Lucent, and two years for factory construction), the technology was already four or five generations behind the international mainstream when it was began production in 1997. In that year, it suffered financial losses of 240 million yuan, and has gone down as a classic case of making preparations to fight the previous war. At present, China's commercial chips still rely on copious imports, and the high patent royalties associated with foreign supply is a big pain for the Chinese government and its enterprises.

Much more...
https://epochtimes.today/systemic-failure-and-strategic-defeat-the-microchip-front-in-the-sino-us-trade-war/

Lets be honest, if not for Trump, the CCP would own the US within a decade...

More than 400 Chinese developers go bankrupt this year amid cash crunch

More than 400 Chinese property developers have filed for bankruptcy so far this year, mostly small-sized ones, amid tightening government scrutiny, slowing home sales and the subsequent liquidity crunch.

As of October 27th, a total of 408 property developers had declared bankruptcy this year, according to the record on the website of China's People's Court.

Most of the developers that went broke were small-sized companies based in China's tier-three . . .

https://www.yuantalks.com/more-than-400-developers-went-bankrupt-this-year-amid-cash-crunch/


Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Yuriy the Loader on November 27, 2020, 10:40:23 AM
Quote from: Possum on October 26, 2020, 12:13:44 AM
Wonder who China wants to be the next president?


Anyone who is interested in politics and has time to sort out terabits of information on various occasions knows that the US Democratic Party is very deeply tied financially and politically with that part of the Chinese government, which is called "Komsomol"  (yang communists) for short.

In China, two forces are now fighting - the Komsomol members under the leadership of their Prime Minister and the Military - this is the party of the country's President Chairman Xi.

Since Chairman Xi declared himself "irreplaceable", that is, vested with power posthumously, the position of the Komsomol members has deteriorated sharply and more and more representatives of the conventional "Military" appear in their camp.

This, in turn, means that American Democrats are already working directly with the Chinese military-industrial complex.

But, in China, the communists are in power, and in the United States, the communists have practically come to power ... therefore, the war between the United States and China becomes almost impossible.

It's just mean, that the Chinese will become our masters without any military action.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Yuriy the Loader on November 30, 2020, 01:39:35 PM
Chinese wisdom- "Sit comfortably on the banks of the river and wait until the corpse of your enemy floats past you" (c)

Today I listened to a rather long lecture by a Russian sinologist, Mr. Vavilov, the great-grandson of that very Russian academician who was tortured to death in the KGB dungeons.

This very great-grandson, deals with China as an economic and political subject.

Today's lecture was devoted to the transition of China and a significant part of the world to the Chinese yuan as a reserve currency.

The Obama administration allowed a significant strengthening of international corporations against American business, so much so that even penicillin is no longer produced in the United States.

Not enough??! The US federal workers' pension is invested in Chinese securities.

Trump's attempt to somehow bring China back to its senses, apparently, failed.

And all this sabotage of American interests is funded by transnational corporations.

But the lecture itself is quite objective and interesting.

In the future, I will try to translate the meaning of the lecture from Russian into English.
Title: CCP attempted to finance attacks on American servicemen
Post by: Solar on December 30, 2020, 09:28:38 AM
The CCP is asking for trouble.

The big picture: The disclosure of this unconfirmed intelligence comes 21 days before the end of Trump's presidency, after he has vowed to ratchet up pressure on China, and months after news reports indicated that the Russians had secretly offered bounties for Taliban militants to kill U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

The Chinese embassy in D.C. did not respond to a request for comment. Trump is not believed to have discussed the matter with President Xi Jinping.

One said: "The U.S. has evidence that the PRC [People's Republic of China] attempted to finance attacks on American servicemen by Afghan non-state actors by offering financial incentives or 'bounties'" and said the National Security Council "is coordinating a whole-of-government investigation."
He would not say whether he was referring to the Taliban, or go beyond the descriptor of "non-state actors."
The timing of the alleged bounty offer is unclear. The source would say only that this happened some time after late February when the U.S. struck its deal with the Taliban. He also noted there had not been an American combat death in Afghanistan since.
He said the administration received earlier intelligence about "PRC weapons illicitly flowing into Afghanistan."
Between the lines: The British and U.S. governments have previously complained about Chinese-made weapons being used by the Taliban.

The interest in Afghanistan stems in part from Beijing's desire to prevent Chinese Muslim separatist groups from using the country as a base.
Afghan security officials recently discovered an alleged Chinese spy ring operating in the country apparently seeking to target Uighurs there, according to a Dec. 25 report from the Hindustan Times.
Don't forget: Trump received heavy criticism earlier this year when he admitted he had not addressed with Vladimir Putin the unconfirmed intelligence reports that Russia had been offering bribes to the Taliban to kill American soldiers.

The commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, Gen. Frank McKenzie, said in September that "it just has not been proved to a level of certainty that satisfies me" that Russia offered these bounties. (This information was included in the President's Daily Brief earlier in the year, the New York Times first reported).
"We continue to look for that evidence," McKenzie said of the reports on Russia. "I just haven't seen it yet. But ... it's not a closed issue."

https://www.axios.com/scoop-trump-admin-declassifies-unconfirmed-intel-on-chinese-bounties-84131ec6-c54f-4556-8d0f-547131a343ef.html
Title: Re: CCP attempted to finance attacks on American servicemen
Post by: Rockfish on December 31, 2020, 03:47:28 AM
Quote from: Solar on December 30, 2020, 09:28:38 AM
The CCP is asking for trouble.

The big picture: The disclosure of this unconfirmed intelligence comes 21 days before the end of Trump's presidency, after he has vowed to ratchet up pressure on China, and months after news reports indicated that the Russians had secretly offered bounties for Taliban militants to kill U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

The Chinese embassy in D.C. did not respond to a request for comment. Trump is not believed to have discussed the matter with President Xi Jinping.

One said: "The U.S. has evidence that the PRC [People's Republic of China] attempted to finance attacks on American servicemen by Afghan non-state actors by offering financial incentives or 'bounties'" and said the National Security Council "is coordinating a whole-of-government investigation."
He would not say whether he was referring to the Taliban, or go beyond the descriptor of "non-state actors."
The timing of the alleged bounty offer is unclear. The source would say only that this happened some time after late February when the U.S. struck its deal with the Taliban. He also noted there had not been an American combat death in Afghanistan since.
He said the administration received earlier intelligence about "PRC weapons illicitly flowing into Afghanistan."
Between the lines: The British and U.S. governments have previously complained about Chinese-made weapons being used by the Taliban.

The interest in Afghanistan stems in part from Beijing's desire to prevent Chinese Muslim separatist groups from using the country as a base.
Afghan security officials recently discovered an alleged Chinese spy ring operating in the country apparently seeking to target Uighurs there, according to a Dec. 25 report from the Hindustan Times.
Don't forget: Trump received heavy criticism earlier this year when he admitted he had not addressed with Vladimir Putin the unconfirmed intelligence reports that Russia had been offering bribes to the Taliban to kill American soldiers.

The commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, Gen. Frank McKenzie, said in September that "it just has not been proved to a level of certainty that satisfies me" that Russia offered these bounties. (This information was included in the President's Daily Brief earlier in the year, the New York Times first reported).
"We continue to look for that evidence," McKenzie said of the reports on Russia. "I just haven't seen it yet. But ... it's not a closed issue."

https://www.axios.com/scoop-trump-admin-declassifies-unconfirmed-intel-on-chinese-bounties-84131ec6-c54f-4556-8d0f-547131a343ef.html

Biden will say that the servicemen deserved it
Title: Re: CCP attempted to finance attacks on American servicemen
Post by: Solar on December 31, 2020, 04:55:43 AM
Quote from: Rockfish on December 31, 2020, 03:47:28 AM
Biden will say that the servicemen deserved it
Biden would help the commies.
Title: Re: CCP attempted to finance attacks on American servicemen
Post by: Rockfish on December 31, 2020, 06:29:33 AM
Quote from: Solar on December 31, 2020, 04:55:43 AM
Biden would help the commies.
All democrats are commies actually
Title: Re: CCP attempted to finance attacks on American servicemen
Post by: Solar on December 31, 2020, 07:06:45 AM
Quote from: Rockfish on December 31, 2020, 06:29:33 AM
All democrats are commies actually
Yep, but I meant the CCP, Dims favorite commies.
Title: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Solar on January 01, 2021, 06:39:55 AM


Afghanistan has busted a 10-member Chinese module operating a terror cell in the capital city of Kabul, according to diplomats and security officials in the West Asian country. The crackdown has come as a huge embarrassment for Beijing, which has been trying to persuade the Ashraf Ghani government to hush up the case, people familiar with the matter in Kabul and New Delhi said.

The 10 Chinese citizens, detained recently in this connection by Afghanistan's National Directorate of Security (NDS) on charges of espionage and running a terror cell, are believed to be linked to China's spy agency, Ministry of State Security. The crackdown by the NDS started on 10 December.

This is the first time in years that Chinese nationals have been caught spying in Afghanistan where the country was looking at rapidly expanding its influence even as the US withdraws its troops. At least two of the 10 Chinese nationals were in contact with the Haqqani Network, the terrorist group that doubles as the sword arm of the Taliban, a senior diplomat in Kabul said.

President Ashraf Ghani has been briefed about the detentions and has authorised First Vice President Amrullah Saleh, a former chief of the Afghan intelligence agency, to oversee the investigation and engage the Chinese in view of the sensitivities involved, the people cited in the first instance added.

Amrullah Saleh has held a meeting with the Chinese envoy to Kabul, Wang Yu to brief him about the detention. Saleh is learnt to have indicated that the Afghan government could consider a pardon for the Chinese spies if Beijing submits a formal apology that admits to the violation of international norms and a betrayal of Kabul's trust.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/01/afghanistan-busts-10-chinese-spies-in-espionage-cell-in-kabul/
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 07:34:12 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 01, 2021, 06:39:55 AM

Afghanistan has busted a 10-member Chinese module operating a terror cell in the capital city of Kabul, according to diplomats and security officials in the West Asian country. The crackdown has come as a huge embarrassment for Beijing, which has been trying to persuade the Ashraf Ghani government to hush up the case, people familiar with the matter in Kabul and New Delhi said.

The 10 Chinese citizens, detained recently in this connection by Afghanistan's National Directorate of Security (NDS) on charges of espionage and running a terror cell, are believed to be linked to China's spy agency, Ministry of State Security. The crackdown by the NDS started on 10 December.

This is the first time in years that Chinese nationals have been caught spying in Afghanistan where the country was looking at rapidly expanding its influence even as the US withdraws its troops. At least two of the 10 Chinese nationals were in contact with the Haqqani Network, the terrorist group that doubles as the sword arm of the Taliban, a senior diplomat in Kabul said.

President Ashraf Ghani has been briefed about the detentions and has authorised First Vice President Amrullah Saleh, a former chief of the Afghan intelligence agency, to oversee the investigation and engage the Chinese in view of the sensitivities involved, the people cited in the first instance added.

Amrullah Saleh has held a meeting with the Chinese envoy to Kabul, Wang Yu to brief him about the detention. Saleh is learnt to have indicated that the Afghan government could consider a pardon for the Chinese spies if Beijing submits a formal apology that admits to the violation of international norms and a betrayal of Kabul's trust.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/01/afghanistan-busts-10-chinese-spies-in-espionage-cell-in-kabul/
I hate to break it to you but a terror cell is not the same as espionage.  Lol was china looking for secret camel milking info
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Solar on January 01, 2021, 08:34:07 AM
Quote from: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 07:34:12 AM
I hate to break it to you but a terror cell is not the same as espionage.  Lol was china looking for secret camel milking info
If you had been paying attention, Trump caught the CCP paying bounties to kill American service men in Afghanistan, this is connected dumb as!
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 08:36:26 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 01, 2021, 08:34:07 AM
If you had been paying attention, Trump caught the CCP paying bounties to kill American service men in Afghanistan, this is connected dumb as!
Lol actually it was not china but russia

But you keep pretending that you have a clue
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Solar on January 01, 2021, 08:43:47 AM
Quote from: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 08:36:26 AM
Lol actually it was not china but russia

But you keep pretending that you have a clue
You really are stupid, aren't you? Look it up moron, the Russia thing was a leftist creation, the CCP one is real, look it up and learn something for a change!
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 08:45:18 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 01, 2021, 08:43:47 AM
You really are stupid, aren't you? Look it up moron, the Russia thing was a leftist creation, the CCP one is real, look it up and learn something for a change!

Wiggle away, but it was still russia, look it up
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Solar on January 01, 2021, 08:46:52 AM
Quote from: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 08:45:18 AM
Wiggle away, but it was still russia, look it up
No, you look it up! I know what the fuck I'm posting about, it's my job to be ahead of idiots like you!
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 09:04:34 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 01, 2021, 08:46:52 AM
No, you look it up! I know what the fuck I'm posting about, it's my job to be ahead of idiots like you!
So you made a mistake, its ok.  Now you can vindicate yourself by posting a link that china paid bounties in afghanistan.

Again this was russia
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Solar on January 01, 2021, 09:14:55 AM
Quote from: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 09:04:34 AM
So you made a mistake, its ok.  Now you can vindicate yourself by posting a link that china paid bounties in afghanistan.

Again this was russia
Man, you are getting on my nerves with your ignorance. You already replied to it!!!

Reply #29
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 09:21:10 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 01, 2021, 09:14:55 AM
Man, you are getting on my nerves with your ignorance. You already replied to it!!!

Reply #29
So you have no link that the chinese paid bounties in afghanistan.  Its ok, you made a mistake, i did once, when I was 5
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Solar on January 01, 2021, 09:30:07 AM
Quote from: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 09:21:10 AM
So you have no link that the chinese paid bounties in afghanistan.  Its ok, you made a mistake, i did once, when I was 5
What's wrong with you? It not only debunks your Russian hoax, it clarifies the CCP were the ones paying to hit US soldiers.
Maybe now that you were forced to read it, you'll make the connection between spy and terror cell.
If you're so certain it was Russians, prove it, and no unnamed sources, that's typical fake CCP Media shit.

QuoteAfghanistan has busted a 10-member Chinese module operating a terror cell in the capital city of Kabul, according to diplomats and security officials in the West Asian country. The crackdown has come as a huge embarrassment for Beijing, which has been trying to persuade the Ashraf Ghani government to hush up the case, people familiar with the matter in Kabul and New Delhi said.

The 10 Chinese citizens, detained recently in this connection by Afghanistan's National Directorate of Security (NDS) on charges of espionage and running a terror cell, are believed to be linked to China's spy agency, Ministry of State Security. The crackdown by the NDS started on 10 December.
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 09:33:23 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 01, 2021, 09:30:07 AM
What's wrong with you? It not only debunks your Russian hoax, it clarifies the CCP were the ones paying to hit US soldiers.
Maybe now that you were forced to read it, you'll make the connection between spy and terror cell.
If you're so certain it was Russians, prove it, and no unnamed sources, that's typical fake CCP Media shit.
Again kid terror cells are not linked to spy agencies and chinese spies in afghanistan now were not linked by this article as paying bounties on americans on afghanistan years ago

So can you provide a link that the chinese paid bounties on americans in afghanistan or not?

Anytime
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Solar on January 01, 2021, 10:42:03 AM
Quote from: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 09:33:23 AM
Again kid terror cells are not linked to spy agencies and chinese spies in afghanistan now were not linked by this article as paying bounties on americans on afghanistan years ago

So can you provide a link that the chinese paid bounties on americans in afghanistan or not?

Anytime
You were the one who claimed it was Russians, I merely pointed out how you were wrong, that your claim was actually a leftist media lie, Fuckin look it up!
This article stands on its own as to its claims. It's not my fault you are uninformed, but it is your fault you're stupid!
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 11:18:42 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 01, 2021, 08:34:07 AM
If you had been paying attention, Trump caught the CCP paying bounties to kill American service men in Afghanistan, this is connected dumb as!
Do you have a link claiming that trump caught the ccp paying bounties to kill Americans in Afghanistan, or are you still confused that the ccp and cccp are the same thing?  Because cccp referred to the union of soviet socialist republics now more commonly referred to as russia

Its ok you made a mistake.  Now be man enough to admit your error
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Solar on January 01, 2021, 11:32:14 AM
Quote from: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 11:18:42 AM
Do you have a link claiming that trump caught the ccp paying bounties to kill Americans in Afghanistan, or are you still confused that the ccp and cccp are the same thing?  Because cccp referred to the union of soviet socialist republics now more commonly referred to as russia

Its ok you made a mistake.  Now be man enough to admit your error
What in the Hell are you babbling on about? I said back up your BS that Russia paid bounties, still waiting!
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 11:42:25 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 01, 2021, 11:32:14 AM
What in the Hell are you babbling on about? I said back up your BS that Russia paid bounties, still waiting!
Actually you said that the ccp or china paid these bounties, when it was reported that russia paid these bounties

If you need a link here it is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_bounty_program

Do keep us informed if the chinese were actually doing this
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Solar on January 01, 2021, 11:51:43 AM
Quote from: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 11:42:25 AM
Actually you said that the ccp or china paid these bounties, when it was reported that russia paid these bounties

If you need a link here it is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_bounty_program

Do keep us informed if the chinese were actually doing this
Wiki is never considered a source. You are one gullible twit! It took me 1 second to find it.

Members of the American intelligence community have concluded that members of the Russian intelligence unit offered bounties to Taliban-linked militants if they successfully killed members of the American military, the New York Times reported. The problem, however, is that almost everyone involved in this story says it isn't true. The White House, Russia and even the Taliban have said the Times' story is false.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/06/28/did-russia-offer-bounties-to-afghan-terrorists-to-kill-american-soldiers-n2571481
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 01:13:38 PM
Quote from: Solar on January 01, 2021, 11:51:43 AM
Wiki is never considered a source. You are one gullible twit! It took me 1 second to find it.

Members of the American intelligence community have concluded that members of the Russian intelligence unit offered bounties to Taliban-linked militants if they successfully killed members of the American military, the New York Times reported. The problem, however, is that almost everyone involved in this story says it isn't true. The White House, Russia and even the Taliban have said the Times' story is false.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/06/28/did-russia-offer-bounties-to-afghan-terrorists-to-kill-american-soldiers-n2571481

You really need to grow up

Russia Secretly Offered Afghan Militants Bounties to Kill ...
Search domain www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/us/politics/russia-afghanistan-bounties.htmlhttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/us/politics/russia-afghanistan-bounties.html
Jun 26, 2020Russia Secretly Offered Afghan Militants Bounties to Kill U.S. Troops, Intelligence Says The Trump administration has been deliberating for months about what to do about a stunning intelligence...

Russia bounty on US troops in Afghanistan: What we know
Search domain www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/29/russia-bounty-us-troops-afghanistan-what-we-know/3277696001/https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/29/russia-bounty-us-troops-afghanistan-what-we-know/3277696001/
Jun 29, 2020The bounties Interrogations of militants and criminals in Afghanistan were the basis for the U.S. intelligence assessment that Russia offered money for successful attacks on coalition troops last...

US Has Proof Russian Bounties Led to GI Deaths in Afghanistan
Search domain www.newsmax.com/us/bounties/2020/06/28/id/974575/https://www.newsmax.com/us/bounties/2020/06/28/id/974575/
The Washington Post reported Sunday evening that U.S. intelligence shows that the bounties, which Russia offered to militants with ties to the Taliban, led to multiple U.S. deaths. The Post noted that the U.S. military lost 10 soldiers in Afghanistan to hostile gunfire or bombs in 2018, and in 2019 the number was 16.

Pompeo says he and Pentagon warned Russia against bounties ...
Search domain thehill.com/policy/international/511970-pompeo-says-he-and-pentagon-warned-russia-against-bounties-on-us-troopshttps://thehill.com/policy/international/511970-pompeo-says-he-and-pentagon-warned-russia-against-bounties-on-us-troops
said Wednesday that he and the Pentagon warned Russia against the suspected bounties placed on U.S. troops in Afghanistan. The secretary of State said in an interview with Radio Free Europe and...

I could post a hundred more links.

Now what info do you have that the russia accusations are false and the china accusations will be real?

We will know on Monday because if china did this the stock market will lose 40 to 50 percent of it's value

Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Solar on January 01, 2021, 09:15:10 PM
Quote from: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 01:13:38 PM
You really need to grow up

Russia Secretly Offered Afghan Militants Bounties to Kill ...
Search domain www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/us/politics/russia-afghanistan-bounties.htmlhttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/us/politics/russia-afghanistan-bounties.html
Jun 26, 2020Russia Secretly Offered Afghan Militants Bounties to Kill U.S. Troops, Intelligence Says The Trump administration has been deliberating for months about what to do about a stunning intelligence...

Russia bounty on US troops in Afghanistan: What we know
Search domain www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/29/russia-bounty-us-troops-afghanistan-what-we-know/3277696001/https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/29/russia-bounty-us-troops-afghanistan-what-we-know/3277696001/
Jun 29, 2020The bounties Interrogations of militants and criminals in Afghanistan were the basis for the U.S. intelligence assessment that Russia offered money for successful attacks on coalition troops last...

US Has Proof Russian Bounties Led to GI Deaths in Afghanistan
Search domain www.newsmax.com/us/bounties/2020/06/28/id/974575/https://www.newsmax.com/us/bounties/2020/06/28/id/974575/
The Washington Post reported Sunday evening that U.S. intelligence shows that the bounties, which Russia offered to militants with ties to the Taliban, led to multiple U.S. deaths. The Post noted that the U.S. military lost 10 soldiers in Afghanistan to hostile gunfire or bombs in 2018, and in 2019 the number was 16.

Pompeo says he and Pentagon warned Russia against bounties ...
Search domain thehill.com/policy/international/511970-pompeo-says-he-and-pentagon-warned-russia-against-bounties-on-us-troopshttps://thehill.com/policy/international/511970-pompeo-says-he-and-pentagon-warned-russia-against-bounties-on-us-troops
said Wednesday that he and the Pentagon warned Russia against the suspected bounties placed on U.S. troops in Afghanistan. The secretary of State said in an interview with Radio Free Europe and...

I could post a hundred more links.

Now what info do you have that the russia accusations are false and the china accusations will be real?

We will know on Monday because if china did this the stock market will lose 40 to 50 percent of it's value
And you need to grow a brain!
The NY Slimes article was proven to be a lie, everything else you posted stems from that lie!
Your links are dead, guess why? They didn't want to perpetuate a lie and expose their leftist bias.

https://www.usatoday.com/errors/404/
Snooze Max
Server Error in '/' Application.

thehill.com/policy/international/511970-pompeo-says-he-and-pentagon-warned-russia-against-bounties-on-us-troopshttps://thehill.com/policy/international/511970-pompeo-says-he-and-pentagon-warned-russia-against-bounties-on-us-troops

Another article pulled because the entire story was a lie!!!

thehill.com/policyPAGE NOT FOUND | 404
Sorry, we could not find the page you requested.
You can try search to find what you want.


Grow up punk, your obsession with me is eating you alive, own up to the fact you met someone who won't tolerate your stupidity!!!!
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 11:27:25 PM
Quote from: Solar on January 01, 2021, 09:15:10 PM
And you need to grow a brain!
The NY Slimes article was proven to be a lie, everything else you posted stems from that lie!
Your links are dead, guess why? They didn't want to perpetuate a lie and expose their leftist bias.

https://www.usatoday.com/errors/404/
Snooze Max
Server Error in '/' Application.

thehill.com/policy/international/511970-pompeo-says-he-and-pentagon-warned-russia-against-bounties-on-us-troopshttps://thehill.com/policy/international/511970-pompeo-says-he-and-pentagon-warned-russia-against-bounties-on-us-troops

Another article pulled because the entire story was a lie!!!

thehill.com/policyPAGE NOT FOUND | 404
Sorry, we could not find the page you requested.
You can try search to find what you want.


Grow up punk, your obsession with me is eating you alive, own up to the fact you met someone who won't tolerate your stupidity!!!!

LOL the fact is that your mind is clearly determining it's own reality. 

https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/psychpedia/delusion-of-grandeur

A delusion of grandeur is the false belief in one's own superiority, greatness, or intelligence. People experiencing delusions of grandeur do not just have high self-esteem; instead, they believe in their own greatness and importance even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Someone might, for example, believe they are destined to be the leader of the world, despite having no leadership experience and difficulties in interpersonal relationships. Delusions of grandeur are characterized by their persistence. They are not just moments of fantasy or hopes for the future.

SYMPTOMS OF DELUSION OF GRANDEUR
Delusions of grandeur vary greatly in their content, but they are similar to one another in that they involve the persistent believe in one's own grandiosity. Common examples of delusions of grandeur include:

Belief that one has a special relationship with a supernatural entity. Cult leaders, for example, might believe they can communicate with a god or that they are a manifestation of a god on earth.
Belief that one has a special relationship with a famous person or authority figure, such as the president.
Belief that one has a unique destiny. These destinies often involve power, fame, fortune, or supernatural concepts.
CAUSES OF DELUSION OF GRANDEUR
Delusions of grandeur are associated with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), which is a mental health diagnosis listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). A narcissistic personality may cause people to greatly overestimate their own importance and believe in their own uniqueness. These delusions can also be symptomatic of schizophrenia. Some people with schizophrenia experience delusions in which they believe they are a hugely powerful person or have a great gift to give to the world.

TREATMENT FOR DELUSION OF GRANDEUR
Treatment of delusions depends upon the underlying cause. It is important for practitioners to differentiate between delusions of grandeur and simple hopes for the future. A person, for example, who wants to be president one day is likely not experiencing a delusion of grandeur. A combination of talk therapy and medication can be helpful in treating delusions of grandeur. Depending upon the delusion's cause, antidepressants, anti-anxiety medications, and/or antipsychotic medications may be prescribed.
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Solar on January 01, 2021, 11:39:38 PM
Quote from: Rockfish on January 01, 2021, 11:27:25 PM
LOL the fact is that your mind is clearly determining it's own reality. 

https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/psychpedia/delusion-of-grandeur

A delusion of grandeur is the false belief in one's own superiority, greatness, or intelligence. People experiencing delusions of grandeur do not just have high self-esteem; instead, they believe in their own greatness and importance even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Someone might, for example, believe they are destined to be the leader of the world, despite having no leadership experience and difficulties in interpersonal relationships. Delusions of grandeur are characterized by their persistence. They are not just moments of fantasy or hopes for the future.

SYMPTOMS OF DELUSION OF GRANDEUR
Delusions of grandeur vary greatly in their content, but they are similar to one another in that they involve the persistent believe in one's own grandiosity. Common examples of delusions of grandeur include:

Belief that one has a special relationship with a supernatural entity. Cult leaders, for example, might believe they can communicate with a god or that they are a manifestation of a god on earth.
Belief that one has a special relationship with a famous person or authority figure, such as the president.
Belief that one has a unique destiny. These destinies often involve power, fame, fortune, or supernatural concepts.
CAUSES OF DELUSION OF GRANDEUR
Delusions of grandeur are associated with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), which is a mental health diagnosis listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). A narcissistic personality may cause people to greatly overestimate their own importance and believe in their own uniqueness. These delusions can also be symptomatic of schizophrenia. Some people with schizophrenia experience delusions in which they believe they are a hugely powerful person or have a great gift to give to the world.

TREATMENT FOR DELUSION OF GRANDEUR
Treatment of delusions depends upon the underlying cause. It is important for practitioners to differentiate between delusions of grandeur and simple hopes for the future. A person, for example, who wants to be president one day is likely not experiencing a delusion of grandeur. A combination of talk therapy and medication can be helpful in treating delusions of grandeur. Depending upon the delusion's cause, antidepressants, anti-anxiety medications, and/or antipsychotic medications may be prescribed.
In a nut shell, you failed miserably, you posted dead links because the sites that posted them, killed them because the NY Slimes had lied.
You claimed it was Russians, like any good little lib parroting the CCP DNC talking points, you brought nothing in evidence to back up your lie, so now you resort to personal attacks.

This son, is behavior befitting an idiot lib, you lost the debate and now you want to make it personal, that's pretty stupid, considering I'm your host on my site.
No, I'm not going to boot you, the forum loves idiot lib chew toys as a pastime.

But that aside, here's more evidence for you to chew on.

GOP Rep. Waltz on China Bounty Intel: 'Regularly' Saw Chinese-Made Weapons in Hands of Taliban, I'm 'Demanding' Briefing

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/01/01/gop-rep-waltz-on-china-bounty-intel-regularly-saw-chinese-made-weapons-in-hands-of-taliban-im-demanding-briefing/

GOP Rep. Waltz on China Bounty Intel: 'Regularly' Saw Chinese-Made Weapons in Hands of Taliban, I'm 'Demanding' Briefing
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Rockfish on January 02, 2021, 12:11:50 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 01, 2021, 11:39:38 PM
In a nut shell, you failed miserably, you posted dead links because the sites that posted them, killed them because the NY Slimes had lied.
You claimed it was Russians, like any good little lib parroting the CCP DNC talking points, you brought nothing in evidence to back up your lie, so now you resort to personal attacks.

This son, is behavior befitting an idiot lib, you lost the debate and now you want to make it personal, that's pretty stupid, considering I'm your host on my site.
No, I'm not going to boot you, the forum loves idiot lib chew toys as a pastime.

But that aside, here's more evidence for you to chew on.

GOP Rep. Waltz on China Bounty Intel: 'Regularly' Saw Chinese-Made Weapons in Hands of Taliban, I'm 'Demanding' Briefing

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/01/01/gop-rep-waltz-on-china-bounty-intel-regularly-saw-chinese-made-weapons-in-hands-of-taliban-im-demanding-briefing/

GOP Rep. Waltz on China Bounty Intel: 'Regularly' Saw Chinese-Made Weapons in Hands of Taliban, I'm 'Demanding' Briefing

LOL I clearly failed to penetrate your delusions.

CIAO
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Solar on January 02, 2021, 02:28:14 AM
Quote from: Rockfish on January 02, 2021, 12:11:50 AM
LOL I clearly failed to penetrate your delusions.

CIAO
No kid, you were annihilated in debate, and this is your comeback? How about admitting you were wrong? It's what grownups do!
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Rockfish on January 02, 2021, 05:11:09 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 02, 2021, 02:28:14 AM
No kid, you were annihilated in debate, and this is your comeback? How about admitting you were wrong? It's what grownups do!
Again reality is not determined by what the deep state wants broadcast in the fake media.  Simplified, not everything on TV and or the internet is real.

Now lets take your position for instance, you do not like the concept of Russians paying bounties, however you love the concept of the Chinese paying bounties, the result is that your mind gets to choose whatever it chooses.  The reality is that the camel humpers do not need a bounty to kill Americans in their country, now on the other hand they would certainly take weapons from anyone.  So your wet dream makes no sense.

Also you said that Trump discovered a terror cell in Afghanistan.....  How did he do this?  Did he dye his hair and go undercover?

LOL it's all bs but not to you because you want this one to be true, this is just more deep state false info.  Unless the markets drop 50 percent
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Solar on January 02, 2021, 05:32:14 AM
Quote from: Rockfish on January 02, 2021, 05:11:09 AM
Again reality is not determined by what the deep state wants broadcast in the fake media.  Simplified, not everything on TV and or the internet is real.

Now lets take your position for instance, you do not like the concept of Russians paying bounties, however you love the concept of the Chinese paying bounties, the result is that your mind gets to choose whatever it chooses.  The reality is that the camel humpers do not need a bounty to kill Americans in their country, now on the other hand they would certainly take weapons from anyone.  So your wet dream makes no sense.
I proved your Russian connection to be a bogus lie by the NY Slimes. Deal with it!

QuoteAlso you said that Trump discovered a terror cell in Afghanistan.....  How did he do this?  Did he dye his hair and go undercover?

LOL it's all bs but not to you because you want this one to be true, this is just more deep state false info.  Unless the markets drop 50 percent

Jeeez, Trump didn't discover it, the Afghanis did, they passed the information along after they busted the CCP cell!

Are you two people? Because I find it hard to believe that one individual can be that stupid!
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Rockfish on January 02, 2021, 05:55:16 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 02, 2021, 05:32:14 AM
I proved your Russian connection to be a bogus lie by the NY Slimes. Deal with it!

Jeeez, Trump didn't discover it, the Afghanis did, they passed the information along after they busted the CCP cell!

Are you two people? Because I find it hard to believe that one individual can be that stupid!

LOL you PROVED nothing

And never will

Yawn
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Solar on January 02, 2021, 08:22:58 AM
Quote from: Rockfish on January 02, 2021, 05:55:16 AM
LOL you PROVED nothing

And never will

Yawn
I proved you're an idiot! But that was easy...
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Rockfish on January 02, 2021, 09:13:53 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 02, 2021, 08:22:58 AM
I proved you're an idiot! But that was easy...
So inside your mind this group is a court and you get to prove how grandiose you are all day.

Is it fun

10 Chinese spies busted in Afghanistan.  Were they collecting cats for lunch
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Solar on January 02, 2021, 11:06:43 AM
Quote from: Rockfish on January 02, 2021, 09:13:53 AM
So inside your mind this group is a court and you get to prove how grandiose you are all day.

Is it fun

10 Chinese spies busted in Afghanistan.  Were they collecting cats for lunch
Ya know what? No one can take you seriously. You aren't here for actual debate, you have yet to actually debate in good faith, all you do is post snide ass remarks.
So why should we keep you around? There is no demand for Clown acts, and you schtick doesn't even rate as a stupid troll.

So make your best defense as to why I shouldn't ban your dumb ass.
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: walkstall on January 02, 2021, 11:11:12 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 02, 2021, 11:06:43 AM
Ya know what? No one can take you seriously. You aren't here for actual debate, you have yet to actually debate in good faith, all you do is post snide ass remarks.
So why should we keep you around? There is no demand for Clown acts, and you schtick doesn't even rate as a stupid troll.

So make your best defense as to why I shouldn't ban your dumb ass.


Hell he does not even make a good chew toy.   :sad:
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Rockfish on January 02, 2021, 11:20:41 AM
Quote from: walkstall on January 02, 2021, 11:11:12 AM

Hell he does not even make a good chew toy.   :sad:

My dogs will not eat any rawhide except the rawhide express. 

That said please try and stay on topic, which is chinese spies looking for cats in Afghanistan
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: walkstall on January 02, 2021, 11:36:23 AM
Quote from: Rockfish on January 02, 2021, 11:20:41 AM
My dogs will not eat any rawhide except the rawhide express. 

That said please try and stay on topic, which is chinese spies looking for cats in Afghanistan

"No brain, no pain."  Ben Franklin who coined these famous words back in the eighteenth century when he wrote, "There are no gains without pains."
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: Rockfish on January 02, 2021, 11:47:55 AM
Quote from: walkstall on January 02, 2021, 11:36:23 AM
"No brain, no pain."  Ben Franklin who coined these famous words back in the eighteenth century when he wrote, "There are no gains without pains."

Frankie also flew a kite.  So is this third grade?
Title: Re: Afghanistan busts 10 Chinese spies in espionage cell in Kabul
Post by: walkstall on January 02, 2021, 12:03:28 PM
Quote from: Rockfish on January 02, 2021, 11:47:55 AM
Frankie also flew a kite.  So is this third grade?


Two grades about your BS.   :lol:
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Possum on January 05, 2021, 11:16:42 PM
Here are the the results of the election, or at least as far as China is concerned, https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/06/beijing-cracks-down-with-series-of-arrests-in-hong-kong/

For all of those who do not understand why china wanted Trump out.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on January 06, 2021, 01:53:49 AM
Quote from: Possum on January 05, 2021, 11:16:42 PM
Here are the the results of the election, or at least as far as China is concerned, https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/06/beijing-cracks-down-with-series-of-arrests-in-hong-kong/

For all of those who do not understand why china wanted Trump out.
I always find it interesting when I see these people rounded up and charged under bogus laws specifically written for their charges.
People haven't the foggiest clue, this is exactly what the Dims are fighting so hard to achieve here.

The DNC is communist, they want ultimate power, they actually want global power, they actually believe they'll make the world a safer place, no matter how many people they have to kill to accomplish it!
Marx dream remains alive in the minds of evil people~!
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Yuriy the Loader on February 23, 2021, 06:54:03 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 06, 2021, 01:53:49 AM
Marx dream remains alive in the minds of evil people~!

Marx wrote his "Capital" almost 200 years ago, when Capitalism did not look as good as it is now, and workers worked in factories and mines for 12-14 hours a day, often without days off.

And it was the followers of Marx- Lenin Trotsky, Stalin Mao Dze Tung and Ho She Min, who made a misanthropic philosophy out of Marx's ideas, in which human life was generally devoid of any value.

Today's Marxists, not any Marxists, but ordinary vulgar Nazis and fascists.

At one time I was really surprised that in the Soviet Union there were no exact translations of Marx for the masses of working people. There were some simplified statements that were convenient for the Communist Party.

Most likely, even the current Marxists in the media, Congress and the US government, have no idea what Marx's economic ideas are, and have heard something somewhere between sniffing cocaine and smoking cannabis.
Title: USA versus China Military
Post by: unver on February 24, 2021, 10:58:33 AM

Below is a link showing a comparison of the US and Chinese military.

https://t.me/markacollett/1494
Title: Re: USA versus China Military
Post by: walkstall on February 24, 2021, 11:27:36 AM
Quote from: unver on February 24, 2021, 10:58:33 AM
Below is a link showing a comparison of the US and Chinese military.

https://t.me/markacollett/1494

:ohmy:  I would say their is some real cherry picking going on. 
Title: Re: USA versus China Military
Post by: Solar on February 24, 2021, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: walkstall on February 24, 2021, 11:27:36 AM
:ohmy:  I would say their is some real cherry picking going on.
We have a thread for this. Wanna move it?

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/war/china-the-next-war/
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on February 24, 2021, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on February 23, 2021, 06:54:03 AM
Marx wrote his "Capital" almost 200 years ago, when Capitalism did not look as good as it is now, and workers worked in factories and mines for 12-14 hours a day, often without days off.

Capitalism has always worked fine, no one was ever forced to work for the state, they were free to do as they pleased.

QuoteAnd it was the followers of Marx- Lenin Trotsky, Stalin Mao Dze Tung and Ho She Min, who made a misanthropic philosophy out of Marx's ideas, in which human life was generally devoid of any value.

Today's Marxists, not any Marxists, but ordinary vulgar Nazis and fascists.

At one time I was really surprised that in the Soviet Union there were no exact translations of Marx for the masses of working people. There were some simplified statements that were convenient for the Communist Party.

Most likely, even the current Marxists in the media, Congress and the US government, have no idea what Marx's economic ideas are, and have heard something somewhere between sniffing cocaine and smoking cannabis.
Agree, they idolize a Utopian dream that will never come to fruition, while others know exactly what it means, destruction of a Free Nation.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Yuriy the Loader on February 25, 2021, 12:38:24 AM
QuoteCapitalism has always worked fine, no one was ever forced to work for the state, they were free to do as they pleased.

You are operating with the history of the United States, which was very different from the history of other capitalist countries. In Great Britain there were "workhouses" and other methods of coercion to work, in Germany and Russia workers were equated with soldiers and even lived in hostels.

Re-read Dickens and you will remember what England was in the XIX century, when capitalism was just becoming the main social system in the world.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on February 25, 2021, 12:43:09 AM
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on February 25, 2021, 12:38:24 AM
You are operating with the history of the United States, which was very different from the history of other capitalist countries. In Great Britain there were "workhouses" and other methods of coercion to work, in Germany and Russia workers were equated with soldiers and even lived in hostels.

Re-read Dickens and you will remember what England was in the XIX century, when capitalism was just becoming the main social system in the world.
None of those were capitalist countries.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on March 24, 2021, 03:01:10 AM
Why? Because they know the Marxist DNC backs their terror!



Chinese fleet in West Philippine Sea similar to purpose-built maritime militia vessels

(https://media.philstar.com/photos/2021/03/23/julian-felipe-reef_2021-03-23_10-04-51.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExFnod3WgAAUo_V?format=jpg&name=small)

MANILA, Philippines — The Chinese vessels seen in line formation near Julian Felipe (Whitsun) Reef off the coast of Palawan appear similar to purpose-built vessels of China's maritime militia, an analyst said.

Andrew Erickson, a professor at the China Maritime Studies Institute at the US Naval War College, noted that the 220 ships photographed in the coral reef in the West Philippine Sea look and operate like the steel-hulled vessels that lead the Sansha City Maritime Militia.

On Saturday, the National Task Force for the West Philippine Sea and the Philippine Coast Guard confirmed that Chinese fishing vessels, believed to be part of China's maritime militia, have been located on the reef on March 7.

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2021/03/23/2086389/chinese-fleet-west-philippine-sea-similar-purpose-built-maritime-militia-vessels-analyst
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on April 07, 2021, 04:37:39 AM


China sends more jets; Taiwan says it will fight to the end if there's war

China sent more fighter jets into Taiwan's air defense zone on Wednesday in a stepped up show of force around the island Beijing claims as its own, and Taiwan's foreign minister said it would fight to the end if China attacks.
The democratic self-governed island has complained of repeated military activities by Beijing in recent months, with China's air force making almost daily forays in Taiwan's air defense identification zone. On Monday, China said an aircraft carrier group was exercising close to the island.
Taiwan's Defence Ministry said 15 Chinese aircraft including 12 fighters entered its air defense identification zone, with an anti-submarine aircraft flying to the south through the Bashi Channel between Taiwan and the Philippines.
Taiwan's air force sent up aircraft to intercept and warn the Chinese away, the ministry added.
Adding to the stepped up military action near Taiwan, the US Navy said the guided missile destroyer USS John S. McCain conducted a "routine" transit of the Taiwan Strait on Wednesday.
China's Eastern Theatre Command said it tracked the ship and denounced the United States for "endangering the peace and stability of the Taiwan Strait."
Speaking earlier in the day, Taiwan Foreign Minister Joseph Wu said the United States was concerned about the risk of conflict.
"From my limited understanding of American decision makers watching developments in this region, they clearly see the danger of the possibility of China launching an attack against Taiwan," he told reporters at his ministry.
"We are willing to defend ourselves without any questions and we will fight the war if we need to fight the war. And if we need to defend ourselves to the very last day we will defend ourselves to the very last day."
China's Taiwan Affairs Office and the US State Department did not respond to requests for comment on Wu's remarks. China has said its activities around Taiwan are aimed at protecting China's sovereignty. The United States has expressed concern about China's movements, and said its commitment to Taiwan is "rock solid."

https://www.jpost.com/international/china-sends-more-jets-taiwan-says-it-will-fight-to-the-end-if-theres-war-664401
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on April 07, 2021, 12:14:55 PM
Japan won't sit idly by, count on it.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2021, 12:06:59 AM
Taiwan Vows to "Open Fire" on Chinese Drones Swarming Its Islands

Taiwan said Wednesday that it is willing to shoot down Chinese drones that have been flying near Taiwan-occupied Pratas Island in the South China Sea, a response to what analysts view as the latest pressure tactic from Beijing.

Ocean Affairs Council Chair Lee Chung-wei told Taiwan's legislature that the Taiwanese coastguard had recently identified Chinese unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) operating near Pratas, which sits about 170 nautical miles to the southeast of Hong Kong in the northern part of the South China Sea.

Lee indicated that Taiwanese forces would open fire on UAVs that fly over the island, which is also claimed by the People's Republic of China.

"If we need to open fire, we will open fire," Lee said, noting that the drones have thus far only circled Pratas and that similar activity has not been observed near Itu Aba — Taiwan's base in the Spratly Islands which lie further south.

Lee did not specify what kinds of drones China has been sending to Pratas.

These drone flights, which Lee described as "gray zone" activity, come as China is ramping up pressure on Taiwan.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/04/chinese-drones-fly-near-taiwan-held-island-in-south-china-sea/
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Hoofer on April 10, 2021, 07:33:54 AM
Found this interesting... and expected.
https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/04/chinas-new-stealth-destroyers-should-make-the-u-s-navy-worry/ (https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/04/chinas-new-stealth-destroyers-should-make-the-u-s-navy-worry/)
China's New Stealth Destroyers Should Make The U.S. Navy Worry

"Though a strike group is certainly a significant multi-vessel force, what is more significant though perhaps less notable was one of the ships in the strike group: the new Type 055 destroyer, dubbed Renhai-class by the United States.

The Type 055s are formidable: the class has a number of stealthy features that reduce the class' radar cross-section, including a specially contoured hull, bow, and deckhouse that enclose the ship's smokestack, anchor chains, mooring points, and other features that would be more easily picked up by radar.

The Type 055 is both longer and wider than the United States' Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, has a correspondingly greater displacement, and is among the latest ships built in Asia in the post-World War II period.

They're also heavily armed, with an estimated 112-128 Vertical Launch System cells that can house multiple smaller surface-to-air defensive missiles, or larger land attack and anti-ship munitions."


It goes on to describe the new Chinese ship - probably stolen or sold to them buy Biden supports, Liberals who want China to rise in power & hate America.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2021, 08:21:33 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 10, 2021, 07:33:54 AM
Found this interesting... and expected.
https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/04/chinas-new-stealth-destroyers-should-make-the-u-s-navy-worry/ (https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/04/chinas-new-stealth-destroyers-should-make-the-u-s-navy-worry/)
China's New Stealth Destroyers Should Make The U.S. Navy Worry

"Though a strike group is certainly a significant multi-vessel force, what is more significant though perhaps less notable was one of the ships in the strike group: the new Type 055 destroyer, dubbed Renhai-class by the United States.

The Type 055s are formidable: the class has a number of stealthy features that reduce the class' radar cross-section, including a specially contoured hull, bow, and deckhouse that enclose the ship's smokestack, anchor chains, mooring points, and other features that would be more easily picked up by radar.

The Type 055 is both longer and wider than the United States' Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, has a correspondingly greater displacement, and is among the latest ships built in Asia in the post-World War II period.

They're also heavily armed, with an estimated 112-128 Vertical Launch System cells that can house multiple smaller surface-to-air defensive missiles, or larger land attack and anti-ship munitions."


It goes on to describe the new Chinese ship - probably stolen or sold to them buy Biden supports, Liberals who want China to rise in power & hate America.
I read an article written by an anon who worked on some of or satellite defense systems. He stated, "hypothetically speaking", that we have developed a fan scan laser system.
Meaning, it transmits down a 1000 mile wide beam that quickly scans the ocean, about a eighth inch thick beam 1000 miles across, as it passes over the sea, it quickly identifies every vessel on the surface, eliminates friendlies while identifying others that may be suspicious.

Pretty amazing stuff, in essence, facial recognition for ships. Oh, and he said it does far more and he only just scratched the surface of its potential. :thumbup:
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on April 11, 2021, 08:48:03 AM
Wonder if the CCP realizes the consequences of attacking Taiwan?

While plutonium production was halted because of American pressure in 1976, the military government in Taiwan continued with its secret nuclear weapons program until the 1980s, which included a successful nuclear reaction.

Taiwan is already a latent nuclear power.

https://asiatimes.com/2020/12/covert-action-china-could-push-taiwan-into-nuclear-defense/
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: RV on April 17, 2021, 09:29:13 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 11, 2021, 08:48:03 AM
Wonder if the CCP realizes the consequences of attacking Taiwan?

While plutonium production was halted because of American pressure in 1976, the military government in Taiwan continued with its secret nuclear weapons program until the 1980s, which included a successful nuclear reaction.

Taiwan is already a latent nuclear power.

https://asiatimes.com/2020/12/covert-action-china-could-push-taiwan-into-nuclear-defense/

Under the Bejing administration? The CCP will most likely be rewarded! Komrad Harris will probably bring the reward to them in person.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2021, 10:31:21 AM
Quote from: RV on April 17, 2021, 09:29:13 AM
Under the Bejing administration? The CCP will most likely be rewarded! Komrad Harris will probably bring the reward to them in person.
No Doubt, but I was referring mostly to Japan, Philippines etc, they know what the CCP has in mind.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Hoofer on April 22, 2021, 09:55:07 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 17, 2021, 10:31:21 AM
No Doubt, but I was referring mostly to Japan, Philippines etc, they know what the CCP has in mind.

Don't forget Indonesia too!
https://www.dw.com/en/indonesia-missing-submarine-has-enough-oxygen-for-72-hours-navy/a-57275208 (https://www.dw.com/en/indonesia-missing-submarine-has-enough-oxygen-for-72-hours-navy/a-57275208)

"Indonesia's missing submarine with 53 people on board has enough oxygen for 72 hours, the Navy said on Thursday.

Authorities are searching for the KRI Nanggala-402 submarine which stopped responding early Wednesday.

The vessel is believed to be 700 meters underwater, according to the Navy. 

"It is designed to dive to depths of 250-500 meters. Beyond that it's dangerous," Navy spokesman Admiral Julius Widjojono was quoted as saying by DPA news agency.   

What we know so far:
The vessel went missing while conducting a torpedo drill.

"It is possible that during static diving, a blackout occurred so control was lost and emergency procedures cannot be carried out and the ship falls to a depth of 600-700 meters," the Navy said in a statement."

--------------

Maybe China carried out one of it's own "torpedo drills", using Indonesia's sub as target practice?
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on April 22, 2021, 10:32:48 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 22, 2021, 09:55:07 PM
Don't forget Indonesia too!
https://www.dw.com/en/indonesia-missing-submarine-has-enough-oxygen-for-72-hours-navy/a-57275208 (https://www.dw.com/en/indonesia-missing-submarine-has-enough-oxygen-for-72-hours-navy/a-57275208)

"Indonesia's missing submarine with 53 people on board has enough oxygen for 72 hours, the Navy said on Thursday.

Authorities are searching for the KRI Nanggala-402 submarine which stopped responding early Wednesday.

The vessel is believed to be 700 meters underwater, according to the Navy. 

"It is designed to dive to depths of 250-500 meters. Beyond that it's dangerous," Navy spokesman Admiral Julius Widjojono was quoted as saying by DPA news agency.   

What we know so far:
The vessel went missing while conducting a torpedo drill.

"It is possible that during static diving, a blackout occurred so control was lost and emergency procedures cannot be carried out and the ship falls to a depth of 600-700 meters," the Navy said in a statement."

--------------

Maybe China carried out one of it's own "torpedo drills", using Indonesia's sub as target practice?
Would anyone really be surprised?
The moment this story broke, it was too late, the sub had already imploded at those depths.
I can't imagine a worse way to die, slowly, knowing it's only a matter of time as you wait for the ned.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: RV on April 22, 2021, 11:27:05 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 22, 2021, 10:32:48 PM
Would anyone really be surprised?
The moment this story broke, it was too late, the sub had already imploded at those depths.
I can't imagine a worse way to die, slowly, knowing it's only a matter of time as you wait for the ned.

Given the propensity for News media to lie, fabricate and expound on a story that suits the interest of the Democrats, I'm not entirely sure what to believe. Is the submarine really missing? Did the Chinese use it for target practice? Did the Russians use it for target practice? Did Iran sink it? Where there Nuclear weapons on board? Does the government know more than what they are claiming? Anything is possible.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on April 22, 2021, 11:35:30 PM
Quote from: RV on April 22, 2021, 11:27:05 PM
Given the propensity for News media to lie, fabricate and expound on a story that suits the interest of the Democrats, I'm not entirely sure what to believe. Is the submarine really missing? Did the Chinese use it for target practice? Did the Russians use it for target practice? Did Iran sink it? Where there Nuclear weapons on board? Does the government know more than what they are claiming? Anything is possible.
That is the best statement, and we'll probably never know what really happened.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: CoolDancer on April 26, 2021, 08:56:20 PM
If we go to war with China, it should NOT be because of Taiwan. A better reason would be the Chinese Navy trying to control the sea lanes and interfering with trade.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Hoofer on April 26, 2021, 09:05:14 PM
Quote from: CoolDancer on April 26, 2021, 08:56:20 PM
If we go to war with China, it should NOT be because of Taiwan. A better reason would be the Chinese Navy trying to control the sea lanes and interfering with trade.
It doesn't need to be an either or reason - Chinese expansion into international shipping lanes, basically gobbling up territory - while our President (not Trump), almost encouraged them to do so.  Meh... what a couple of Reefs between friends - go ahead!

Kinda surprised, the environmentalists weren't pitching a fit - Oh, wait, they're all in the same Marxist's camp, hate America, death to capitalism!
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: RV on April 26, 2021, 10:31:03 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 26, 2021, 09:05:14 PM
It doesn't need to be an either or reason - Chinese expansion into international shipping lanes, basically gobbling up territory - while our President (not Trump), almost encouraged them to do so.  Meh... what a couple of Reefs between friends - go ahead!

Kinda surprised, the environmentalists weren't pitching a fit - Oh, wait, they're all in the same Marxist's camp, hate America, death to capitalism!

If America goes to war with China, it will be a long, bloody and costly battle. I'm not sure that people would band together like they did in WWII. As we saw with the hoarding of toilet paper, hand sanitizer and such, people only care about themselves. It's interesting to me that the pundits are now talking "war" but, when President Trump was negotiating all of the peace deals, all the Democrats could talk about is how President Trump was going to get us into a war...
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Steel Shark on April 26, 2021, 11:03:13 PM
War is over.

Those with intelligence no longer fire bombs.

Kids with no better path do not die "for the good of the nation,  or god".

Our brains have done better than our predecessor's could have imagined and we actually see the future.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on April 26, 2021, 11:23:42 PM
The answer lies in timing. If the CCP attacks Taiwan soon, then it will be up to Taiwan and how much they value independence, because The Biteme administration will do nothing but talk. Taiwan will be on their own.
So, expect China to move very soon, they know they have a small window to work within, because Trump is coming back and the free world will stand against the Commie scum if the US shows strength.

If we don't, free world trade will end and the CCP will own the water ways. It really is that simple.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Hoofer on April 26, 2021, 11:25:09 PM
Quote from: Steel Shark on April 26, 2021, 11:03:13 PM
War is over.

Those with intelligence no longer fire bombs.

Kids with no better path do not die "for the good of the nation,  or god".

Our brains have done better than our predecessor's could have imagined and we actually see the future.

Cyber War... could bring America to surrender in hours, instead of months or years.

The call for American Patriots ... if they still exists, are old men, still refusing to give up what they fought for, leaving the young Communist generation to betray them to their Marxist masters.... in exchange for 15 seconds of Youtube fame.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: RV on April 27, 2021, 02:13:14 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on April 26, 2021, 11:03:13 PM
War is over.

Those with intelligence no longer fire bombs.

Kids with no better path do not die "for the good of the nation,  or god".

Our brains have done better than our predecessor's could have imagined and we actually see the future.

Laugh out loud! "War is over"? Tell THAT to the Communists, the Dictators and the haters of America, freedom and liberty.

"Those with intelligence no longer fire bombs". Keep telling yourself that as people are murdered with bombs, machine gun fire, chemical weapons and such.

"Kids  with no better path do not die "for the good of the nation,  or god". That's what makes me afraid, the people who will fight and die are the older people. Meanwhile the young who could fight won't because they'd much rather surf the Internet or play some type of video game.

"Our brains have done better than our predecessor's could have imagined and we actually see the future." Hmmm, so the election fraud was "seen" and allowed to occur anyway? The chaos, riots, Chaz was "seen"? The murders, assaults, etc. were "seen" in advance yet allowed to happen anyway? We cannot forget the chaos that surrounds this hoax of a "pandemic". That was also "seen" in advance and yet allowed? Seems like you haven't a clue!
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: winterset on April 27, 2021, 03:12:11 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on April 26, 2021, 11:03:13 PM
War is over.

Those with intelligence no longer fire bombs.

Kids with no better path do not die "for the good of the nation,  or god".

Our brains have done better than our predecessor's could have imagined and we actually see the future.

nominated for dumbest post of the day!
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on April 27, 2021, 03:14:46 AM
Quote from: winterset on April 27, 2021, 03:12:11 AM
nominated for dumbest post of the day!
I'm guessing he's young, and if that's the case, I hope his generation won't fold as easily as he demonstrates.
We've failed to educate these kids on the evils of socialism/communism.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on May 02, 2021, 10:00:19 PM
Philippines FM tells China to 'Get the Fuck out' in tweet over South China Sea dispute

Teodoro Loscin, the Philippine foreign minister, took to Twitter on Monday to criticize China over what he called Beijing's illegal activities in the South China Sea, a report said.

"China, my friend, how politely can I put it? Let me see...O...GET THE F--- OUT," he posted on his personal account without the censor. His tweet continued, "What are you doing to our friendship? You. Not us. We're trying. You. You're like an ugly oaf forcing your attentions on a handsome guy who wants to be a friend; not to father a Chinese province."

Reuters reported that Manila has voiced opposition to what it sees as Beijing's encroachment on its 200-mile Exclusive Economic Zone.

NPR reported in March that China had about 220 vessels at the Whitsun Reef, which is claimed by the Philippines, China and Vietnam. Delfin Lorenzana, the Philippine defense minister, told the news outlet that the territory is within Manila's exclusive zone under established international law.

Countries in the area have reported what seems to be a more assertive China.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/philippines-fm-tells-china-to-get-the-f-out-in-tweet-over-south-china-sea-dispute
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: RV on May 02, 2021, 10:37:09 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 02, 2021, 10:00:19 PM
Philippines FM tells China to 'Get the Fuck out' in tweet over South China Sea dispute

Teodoro Loscin, the Philippine foreign minister, took to Twitter on Monday to criticize China over what he called Beijing's illegal activities in the South China Sea, a report said.

"China, my friend, how politely can I put it? Let me see...O...GET THE F--- OUT," he posted on his personal account without the censor. His tweet continued, "What are you doing to our friendship? You. Not us. We're trying. You. You're like an ugly oaf forcing your attentions on a handsome guy who wants to be a friend; not to father a Chinese province."

Reuters reported that Manila has voiced opposition to what it sees as Beijing's encroachment on its 200-mile Exclusive Economic Zone.

NPR reported in March that China had about 220 vessels at the Whitsun Reef, which is claimed by the Philippines, China and Vietnam. Delfin Lorenzana, the Philippine defense minister, told the news outlet that the territory is within Manila's exclusive zone under established international law.

Countries in the area have reported what seems to be a more assertive China.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/philippines-fm-tells-china-to-get-the-f-out-in-tweet-over-south-china-sea-dispute

Why shouldn't China be "more assertive"? After all, they successfully installed a U.S. President, they successfully rigged a Presidential election in the U.S. and they have a U.S. President at their bidding. What's not to be excited and assertive about?
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Donald H on May 03, 2021, 03:38:28 AM
There's little doubt that Biden and the Dems are actively ratcheting up the hate propaganda against China. So are it should be seen as just 'rallying the troops' instead of any possibility of military action being taken against China.

But will the Dems and Biden throw all caution to the wind with a military challenge to China?
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on May 03, 2021, 07:24:58 AM
Quote from: Donald H on May 03, 2021, 03:38:28 AM
There's little doubt that Biden and the Dems are actively ratcheting up the hate propaganda against China. So are it should be seen as just 'rallying the troops' instead of any possibility of military action being taken against China.

But will the Dems and Biden throw all caution to the wind with a military challenge to China?
Why would they, the DNC is in bed with the CCP...
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: RV on May 04, 2021, 02:56:54 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 03, 2021, 07:24:58 AM
Why would they, the DNC is in bed with the CCP...

I'm sure that there is a monetary angle that is not obvious. Maybe China wants "War" so they can be built back up by the U.S. or possibly Bejing and Komrad stand to gain monetarily. It could even be that Bejing Biden hopes to allow China to take over the U.S.

There is no question in my mind that the Democrats want "war", I just haven't figured out their benefit yet.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on May 04, 2021, 03:05:29 AM
Quote from: RV on May 04, 2021, 02:56:54 AM
I'm sure that there is a monetary angle that is not obvious. Maybe China wants "War" so they can be built back up by the U.S. or possibly Bejing and Komrad stand to gain monetarily. It could even be that Bejing Biden hopes to allow China to take over the U.S.

There is no question in my mind that the Democrats want "war", I just haven't figured out their benefit yet.
That's it in a nutshell, the CCP wants global domination.
War would be nothing more than a distraction and a way to divide the nation even further. Think Nam, we didn't lose, the Marxists brainwashed the country with propaganda designed to pit those under 30 against actual adults.

Remember the slogan, "Trust no one over 30". That was Marxist generated. If a war broke out, that would be the very definition of the next divide in the country, kid refusing to support the country for us old capitalists.

This has been a plan in the making for decades.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on May 04, 2021, 12:42:01 PM
Conflict with China a 'high likelihood', says top Australian general


One of the nation's top military commanders told his troops that Beijing is already engaged in "grey zone" warfare against Australia and they must plan for the high likelihood this may spill over into actual conflict in the future.

The candid and confidential briefing by Major-General Adam Findlay to Australia's special forces soldiers last year gives the most detailed insight yet made public into how the nation's top military planners view the threat of China.

The then-special forces commander, who has since stepped down but who still advises the Australian Defence Force, highlighted the steps Australia's military was taking to prevent war but also described a "high likelihood" that actual conflict could break out due to the unpredictable nature of foreign affairs.

"Who do you reckon the main [regional] threat is?" General Findlay asked his troops and officers before answering: "China".

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Details of the April 2020 briefing have been obtained by The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald from multiple sources who have requested to remain anonymous because they are not authorised to speak publicly. They say General Findlay told his troops that, if the threat of conflict was realised, the ADF needed to rely not only on traditional air, land and sea capabilities but also on Australia's ability to use cyber and space warfare.

He also highlighted the need for the ADF to reassert its presence and play "first grade" in south-east Asia and the south-west Pacific, describing how the military had uncovered information showing China was seeking to exploit "our [Australia's] absence" in the region.

"We need to make sure we don't lose momentum ... get back in the region," General Findlay said, highlighting Australia's close ties to Indonesia.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/conflict-with-china-a-high-likelihood-says-top-australian-general-20210503-p57ogv.html
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Hoofer on May 13, 2021, 05:56:41 AM


Did Taiwan and Japan Team Up to Track Chinese Warship?

Piss off & bully too many of your neighbors ...?   They're gonna team up together and make your life miserable!
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Hoofer on May 28, 2021, 01:25:01 AM
I started to post this on the Wuhan Flu thread, but realized it probably belonged HERE instead.

If the Wuhan Flu was a trial run against the USA (and rest of the world), I think China was paying close attention, carefully evaluating the results.  Among that, they were probably SURPRISED how easily Americans shut down their economy, and equally surprised how LONG that lock down lasted - +15 months!!!  The unexpected results, and cooperation from China Insiders, worked beautifully!   Democrats/Marxists really blew this out of proportion - and they *almost* took out the POTUS too!  (Didn't think Trump was targeted?  Why not?)

ONE minor virus, with a 99.97% survival rate, Americans just folded up like a cheap China Tent, rolled over and played dead.  The real question.. If they did it again, would Americans react the SAME way, or would the pushback be so strong, Americans would have none of it?

What would be the *next* logical move from China?   Another Virus?  Hit infrastructure?  The Internet?  Banking system?  Electrical grid?  I know, without a doubt, China is gonna unleash something else, gauge the reaction - who knows, maybe it'll be the magic bullet to finally rein in the US economy & collapse the Dollar.

If I were China...  there are 2 areas I'd be working on.  Something that would alter USA weather, Hot/Dry, Wet/flooding, hit the west with Drought, and the east/south with unprecedented Hurricanes.
The second area would be and EMP.  Used the Norks, a small accidental EMP detonation over Canada, or Central America, just far enough away from the USA to not cause too much damage, but another "test" & watch the results.

The reliance on the USA Dollar must end.  Biden is doing his part with the 6 Trillion Dollar budget, to wreck the US economy.  We might not be able to afford any kind of military conflict/defense in another year - we'll be fighting off rapid inflation, like the Carter administration had.  Will we even recognize the USA in 10 years...?   
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Hoofer on May 29, 2021, 01:12:29 AM
China - still a developing nation...?


Very advanced economy, China, landing vehicles on Mars?
China is ripping off the rest of the world... thanks the WTO!
Title: Re: China, Buying Texas land & Runway
Post by: Hoofer on May 29, 2021, 10:23:41 PM
:mad:

Buys a wind farm, expands a runway, wants to hook up to OUR Grid directly!?
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Possum on May 31, 2021, 12:58:04 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on May 28, 2021, 01:25:01 AMI started to post this on the Wuhan Flu thread, but realized it probably belonged HERE instead.

If the Wuhan Flu was a trial run against the USA (and rest of the world), I think China was paying close attention, carefully evaluating the results.  Among that, they were probably SURPRISED how easily Americans shut down their economy, and equally surprised how LONG that lock down lasted - +15 months!!!  The unexpected results, and cooperation from China Insiders, worked beautifully!  Democrats/Marxists really blew this out of proportion - and they *almost* took out the POTUS too!  (Didn't think Trump was targeted?  Why not?)

ONE minor virus, with a 99.97% survival rate, Americans just folded up like a cheap China Tent, rolled over and played dead.  The real question.. If they did it again, would Americans react the SAME way, or would the pushback be so strong, Americans would have none of it?

What would be the *next* logical move from China?  Another Virus?  Hit infrastructure?  The Internet?  Banking system?  Electrical grid?  I know, without a doubt, China is gonna unleash something else, gauge the reaction - who knows, maybe it'll be the magic bullet to finally rein in the US economy & collapse the Dollar.

If I were China...  there are 2 areas I'd be working on.  Something that would alter USA weather, Hot/Dry, Wet/flooding, hit the west with Drought, and the east/south with unprecedented Hurricanes.
The second area would be and EMP.  Used the Norks, a small accidental EMP detonation over Canada, or Central America, just far enough away from the USA to not cause too much damage, but another "test" & watch the results.

The reliance on the USA Dollar must end.  Biden is doing his part with the 6 Trillion Dollar budget, to wreck the US economy.  We might not be able to afford any kind of military conflict/defense in another year - we'll be fighting off rapid inflation, like the Carter administration had.  Will we even recognize the USA in 10 years...?
I think the main reason the trial run worked to perfection was because the democrats and lsm were in on it from the beginning. Had the impossible happened, and the democrats acted as if they also had a love for this country, I do not think this attack, the trial run, on the U.S. would have gathered the strength that it did. China may have created the virus, but it was the democrats who inflicted the most damaged on the U.S. 
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Hoofer on May 31, 2021, 01:43:42 AM
Quote from: Possum on May 31, 2021, 12:58:04 AMI think the main reason the trial run worked to perfection was because the democrats and lsm were in on it from the beginning. Had the impossible happened, and the democrats acted as if they also had a love for this country, I do not think this attack, the trial run, on the U.S. would have gathered the strength that it did. China may have created the virus, but it was the democrats who inflicted the most damaged on the U.S.
Kinda in stages, IMO.
First off - they didn't realize the full potential & would the American public go along, how much?
After January, with the help of Fauchi, the Dems figured out it could both "test" American resolve & possibly damage POTUS Trump (libs hate that).

The real "test" was How LONG can you keep the American public deceived?  Wearing masks, keeping churches and businesses closed, using the CDC rulings to create a non-law to be enforced.  Hmmm... how many people are actually in PRISON for not complying?

That'll be the next thing, imprisoning law breakers for non-existant laws, for which there is no "end of sentence", just imprisonment.
Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Hoofer on June 03, 2021, 04:29:09 AM
Chinese construction & other updates.


China celebrates 100 years... but....

Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: winterset on June 03, 2021, 05:44:34 AM

It is not well known but that guy was arrested and executed.

Naturally the MSM, which has ignored EVERY ANNIVERSARY of the massacre never mentions this


Quote from: Hoofer on June 03, 2021, 04:29:09 AMChinese construction & other updates.


China celebrates 100 years... but....

Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Hoofer on June 07, 2021, 11:09:06 PM
Three Gorges Dam in China ... shifted again...?

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9bb0c8330ccc1cf0312b2db3f4ed8a4e3963a15cc2fadb3fffb2587a5893bd16.png?w=600&h=429)

I believe that's suppose to be STRAIGHT...
Title: USAF planing to thwart China...?
Post by: Hoofer on June 08, 2021, 09:49:26 AM
Wound this quite interesting.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2021/06/07/anticipating-war-with-china-the-us-air-force-is-spreading-across-the-pacific/?sh=5deda3126d78 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2021/06/07/anticipating-war-with-china-the-us-air-force-is-spreading-across-the-pacific/?sh=5deda3126d78)

Anticipating War With China, The U.S. Air Force Is Fanning Out Across The Pacific

For years, the U.S. Air Force concentrated its warplanes at just two bases in the western Pacific: for fighters, Kadena Air Force Base in Japan's Okinawa prefecture; and for bombers and big support planes, Guam's Andersen Air Force Base.

Beijing eyed these mega-bases and devised a simple strategy for suppressing U.S. air power in the region. Build a couple thousand non-nuclear ballistic missiles and, in wartime, lob them at the bases until their runways, aprons, hangars, fuel tanks and warehouses are nothing but craters.

After years of build-up, the Chinese rocket force possesses around 1,300 ground-launched missiles with sufficient range to hit Kadena and Andersen from mainland China.

The USAF is keenly aware of the threat. It has its own plan for dodging the missile barrages. The idea is to spread out hundreds of warplanes across potentially dozens of smaller bases—thus diluting the striking power of China's rocket force."

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I got an idea for striking China.  Start with announcing every DAM on the Yangtze River, like the Three Gorges Dam - is a fair target.

Title: Re: USAF planing to thwart China...?
Post by: winterset on June 08, 2021, 10:39:56 PM
With our tanker fleet we can station aircraft pretty much anywhere we want. NOW the support- bomb dumps, maintenance, etc is a different story. They are harder to move around and are of course vulnerable to strikes.

But there are dozens of places we can put people and equipment pretty quick.

and modern runway repair can be done pretty fast.

Meanwhile they run out of those missiles if we force them to target say 20 or so places.

One might call it rope a dope without taking the hits.


Quote from: Hoofer on June 08, 2021, 09:49:26 AMWound this quite interesting.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2021/06/07/anticipating-war-with-china-the-us-air-force-is-spreading-across-the-pacific/?sh=5deda3126d78 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2021/06/07/anticipating-war-with-china-the-us-air-force-is-spreading-across-the-pacific/?sh=5deda3126d78)

Anticipating War With China, The U.S. Air Force Is Fanning Out Across The Pacific

For years, the U.S. Air Force concentrated its warplanes at just two bases in the western Pacific: for fighters, Kadena Air Force Base in Japan's Okinawa prefecture; and for bombers and big support planes, Guam's Andersen Air Force Base.

Beijing eyed these mega-bases and devised a simple strategy for suppressing U.S. air power in the region. Build a couple thousand non-nuclear ballistic missiles and, in wartime, lob them at the bases until their runways, aprons, hangars, fuel tanks and warehouses are nothing but craters.

After years of build-up, the Chinese rocket force possesses around 1,300 ground-launched missiles with sufficient range to hit Kadena and Andersen from mainland China.

The USAF is keenly aware of the threat. It has its own plan for dodging the missile barrages. The idea is to spread out hundreds of warplanes across potentially dozens of smaller bases—thus diluting the striking power of China's rocket force."

-----

I got an idea for striking China.  Start with announcing every DAM on the Yangtze River, like the Three Gorges Dam - is a fair target.
Title: Re: USAF planing to thwart China...?
Post by: Hoofer on June 08, 2021, 11:16:33 PM
Quote from: winterset on June 08, 2021, 10:39:56 PMWith our tanker fleet we can station aircraft pretty much anywhere we want. NOW the support- bomb dumps, maintenance, etc is a different story. They are harder to move around and are of course vulnerable to strikes.

But there are dozens of places we can put people and equipment pretty quick.

and modern runway repair can be done pretty fast.

Meanwhile they run out of those missiles if we force them to target say 20 or so places.

One might call it rope a dope without taking the hits.

All which is a plus, mobility, China doesn't have that "YET".   It's a great idea, spread out the bases.

I still like the idea of letting China know... though diplomatic channels - or right out in the open, 'the Three Gorges Dam is pretty FULL, we'd hate to see something happen to your largest electrical generating facility ... might put you back into the stone age for a decade, if you can ever rebuild it.'

This isn't like WW2 Germany, who could rebuild in a month a couple of Dam strikes.  China's construction is horrible.  I'm surprised (really am) the Three Gorges Dam hasn't already burst!

Meanwhile, we're under constant cyber attack, here and there - which is probably a *good* thing, fix this and that, instead of get everything all at once (like a Three Gorges Dam burst).
Title: China DRUG war against the west
Post by: Hoofer on June 10, 2021, 02:53:17 AM
This is disturbing, China is pumping Fentanyl into the west, then laundering drug money through Casinos.

Listen to this hour long broadcast, we *are* at war, but China has the upper hand.

Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Hoofer on June 10, 2021, 10:09:09 PM
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Title: Re: China, The Next War
Post by: Solar on June 10, 2021, 10:36:30 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on June 10, 2021, 10:09:09 PM(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jurmeINumLY/YME8uqtyJvI/AAAAAAAAwDo/VTAxkErTX1sZElAV9Xk_fx6FoccUp-2kACLcBGAsYHQ/w640-h526/120.jpeg)
This one is good, but in truth is a lie. They included virtually every boat in China, since all fisherman are in essence property of the CCP military, they included that number as part of the fleet.
I don't think one aircraft carrier against the entirety of the US fleet, can in anyway be considered a threat.

That day is not yet here.