Here's the truth.

Quote from: Solar on June 16, 2025, 04:38:58 PM   

Here's the truth.

I like where he said that Palestinians were not invented until 1930 or some such. I also like where he said many Arabs migrated there for opportunity. The same is true for Africans moving to South Africa. BTW The 'Ukrainians'  and even the 'Kievan Rus' were fairly recent inventions, maybe 1900 and 1820 respectively.   

I had a Jewish GF for several months after divorce. She said her grandparents were from Kiev. If they had stayed they would have been killed. I asked Grok about Askenazi Jews.

In short most 'Palestinian' Arabs came most recently from the Levant. Most Israelis came most recently from Eastern Europe and North Africa. 

When Ashkenazi Jews take a DNA test, their ethnicity is typically identified as "Ashkenazi Jewish" or "European Jewish" on most commercial genetic testing platforms, such as AncestryDNA, 23andMe, or MyHeritage. ...  Some tests may indicate a small percentage of Middle Eastern or Levantine ancestry, tying back to the historical origins of Jewish populations in the Near East before their diaspora.

IMOmost Israeli Jews test this way.

Sephardic Jewish: Some platforms, like 23andMe, may specifically label "Sephardic Jewish" or "North African and Sephardic Jewish" as a distinct category, reflecting ancestry from Jewish communities in Spain, Portugal, North Africa, and the Mediterranean.

Geographic breakdown: Results often show a high percentage of Sephardic Jewish ancestry (70-100% for those with full Sephardic heritage) alongside components of:
Southern European (e.g., Iberian, Italian, or Greek) due to historical integration in the Mediterranean.

North African or Middle Eastern (e.g., Levantine) ancestry, reflecting pre-diaspora Jewish origins and later migrations to North Africa.

Western Asian influences, in some cases, from interactions in the Ottoman Empire or Middle East.

Latin American connections: For descendants of Sephardic Jews who fled to the Americas during the Inquisition (e.g., Conversos or Crypto-Jews), tests may show Latin American or Native American admixture alongside Sephardic markers.

Ashkenazi Jews: Around 31.8% of the Jewish population in Israel, or approximately 2.3 million people, identify as Ashkenazi (of European descent, primarily Central and Eastern Europe). This includes about 12.4% who are immigrants from the former Soviet Union, many of whom also identify as Ashkenazi.

Sephardic/Mizrahi Jews: Approximately 44.9% of the Jewish population, or about 3.2 million people, identify as Sephardic or Mizrahi (of Spanish, North African, or Middle Eastern descent). Note that "Sephardic" and "Mizrahi" are often grouped together in Israeli demographics, as many Mizrahi Jews follow Sephardic religious traditions, though some sources estimate Mizrahi alone at up to 61% due to broader definitions.

Ashkenazi Jews: ~31.8% of 7.2 million Jews ÷ 9.8 million total = ~23.4% of the total population.

Sephardic/Mizrahi Jews: ~44.9% of 7.2 million Jews ÷ 9.8 million total = ~33.0% of the total population.

Additional notes:
About 25% of Jewish children and 35% of Jewish newborns in Israel are of mixed Ashkenazi and Sephardic/Mizrahi descent, with intermarriage increasing this admixture by ~0.5% annually.

Smaller Jewish groups (e.g., Beta Israel, Cochin Jews) and mixed/other categories make up the remaining Jewish population (~7.9% mixed, 3% Beta Israel).

Non-Jewish populations (primarily Arab Israelis, 21%) and others (5%) account for the rest of Israel's population.

Quote from: patentlymn on June 17, 2025, 08:04:04 AMI like where he said that Palestinians were not invented until 1930 or some such. I also like where he said many Arabs migrated there for opportunity. The same is true for Africans moving to South Africa. BTW The 'Ukrainians'  and even the 'Kievan Rus' were fairly recent inventions, maybe 1900 and 1820 respectively. 

QuoteI had a Jewish GF for several months after divorce.

   
You stuck it out longer than I did. I dated a true JAP, everything on her body was bought and paid for. The girl was every mans dream girl, physically, but personality wise, she was every mans nightmare.

QuoteShe said her grandparents were from Kiev. If they had stayed they would have been killed. I asked Grok about Askenazi Jews.

In short most 'Palestinian' Arabs came most recently from the Levant. Most Israelis came most recently from Eastern Europe and North Africa. 

Exactly!  I knew what he was saying was true, I did the research 25 years ago, and when I posted it later, it not only vanished, I'd get banned.