Started by CG6468, June 29, 2014, 01:17:52 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on August 21, 2014, 06:19:08 AMIsrael is fully capable of taking care of their own business if the USA fully supports them geopolitically and with arms.
Quote from: Alaska Slim on August 21, 2014, 03:04:32 PMAgreed.Israel claims proudly that they have never asked anyone to fight their battles for them. I certainly don't want to take that mantle away from them.They are our only ally who does this. Even our NATO allies living close to Russia didn't bother to spend the 2% GDP on defense, as the NATO charter requires, because they figured that we'd just pressure them to behave.... and even after that blew up, they still don't think they need to. The Baltics only increased their spending to 0.5% of GDP. Maybe they think Germany will save them, I dunno...
Quote from: Aristophanes on August 21, 2014, 04:27:50 PM"To truly listen one must realize the full intent of the other party's message."Israeli can take care of domestic defense and Gaza. What it needs is political support from us in that endeavor. Do you realize how many bases we have without actually expanding American economic influence? The only things we do in regions like this is to sell weapons. I say we stop selling weapons to EVERY nation, except perhaps Israel, and we establish AMERICAN SOIL in the middle east. Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq should be states #52-55. The 'final four' states of America will secure our interests in the middle east. I say it is a worthy enough endeavor that we may if needed use military assets from our other foreign bases. What I am saying is that we should not be the aggressors. What I am saying is that we should gather our forces in a holding pattern around the southern middle east, publicly announce that we will allow Israel to forcibly emigrate Gaza inhabitants out of Gaza, and once a nation turns against Israel directly we strike, occupy, and patriate. This means moving US citizens into the middle east, perhaps first drawing from Americans currently living in QATAR and Arab Emirates, then pulling from illegal immigrants and other disenfranchised, and a number of willing citizens that have professional backgrounds that are necessary to set up our state, as well as the prerequisite ambition to take the leap of faith. We cannot assume to hold an empire based solely on military bases. If we do not have the will to create American states in the middle east then we should just pack our bags and take all of our troops home. Is that what you really want? To retreat with your tails between your legs? If you do that's fine, but if you don't, then you better be DAMNED sure that you are willing to set up American Colonies, American STATES, no less, and you are willing to put not only troops, but non-combatant citizens into the cross-hairs to make those dreams a reality. If you don't have the balls for that then bow down and convert to Islam, or take a full Isolationist policy and withdraw all troops and foreign aid.
Quote from: Aristophanes on August 21, 2014, 04:27:50 PM"To truly listen one must realize the full intent of the other party's message."Israeli can take care of domestic defense and Gaza. What it needs is political support from us in that endeavor. Do you realize how many bases we have without actually expanding American economic influence? The only things we do in regions like this is to sell weapons. I say we stop selling weapons to EVERY nation, except perhaps Israel, and we establish AMERICAN SOIL in the middle east.
Quote from: Alaska Slim on August 21, 2014, 08:35:27 PMNeo-imperialism leads to bad end. The colonies of Britian were a net drag on their own economy, a drag they were forced to eject, it'd be no different with us.Our own closest example to this was Liberia, and that's gone rather badly. Thankfully we didn't do this in Sicily, as we planned to if Italy had gone Commie.
Quote from: TboneAgain on August 21, 2014, 04:53:50 PMJust out of curiosity, what is your proposed State #51? Or are you of the Kenyan school of geography, that flings 57 states already out there?
Quote from: quiller on August 27, 2014, 11:05:28 PMJews are NOT dumb. They won't accept paying taxes to support our criminal federal debt-load.
Quote from: mdgiles on August 02, 2014, 11:15:46 PMThey say that math is the enemy of Leftists, for example the repeated claim that most Muslims are peaceful. There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world, 1% of those is 12 million, 10% of that figure is 1.2 million. So a minuscule percentage of the Muslim community - 1 in 1 hundred still leaves a million insane terrorists. Meanwhile the West has some really ugly weapons in it's arsenals, but it won't use them - they are held back by the insane idea of proportionality. The idea that if your enemy only has a certain level of weaponry, it is some how "unfair" to use your far greater arsenal. So if your enemy only has small arms it's not "fair" to use machine guns and heavy artillery - it's as if war is a freaking video game. The common sense idea, that it's better to use every weapon you have, smash the enemy flat and get it over with - thus reducing casualties - had gone by the wayside.
Quote from: suzziY on August 03, 2014, 02:44:03 AMOur president is Muslim period. He is NOT going to support Israel; he's done quite the opposite.Yes, I do believe Christians are in danger.