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ADDENDUM: Why Hitler started WW2

Started by ldub23, April 08, 2021, 01:28:51 AM

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ldub23

Quote from: Hoofer on April 24, 2021, 09:05:27 AM
Just give it up, already.  You're grasping at anything to prop up this dude (is it YOU?), I'm not buying revisionist history anymore than flat out rejecting the conversations I had with a lady who grew up in Germany, lived through the war and offered me insite I'd never expected.  Sorry, but that dude is just chasing rabbits & missing the bigger picture, IMO.

Economics  is the  bigger  picture.

ldub23

Quote from: Hoofer on April 24, 2021, 09:59:53 AM
Just remembered this historical performance, Hmmmm...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zY1orxW8Aw

(Global Warming probably caused something... need to investigate it)

Good  one.

ldub23

Economics was the entire reason Hitler invaded Russia and the  reason he wanted to go south, not toward Moscow. Many  people say if the Germans had been able to send  more divisions east they would  have won, but they couldnt because they couldnt supply them. With the divisions they sent they had a fatal delay before  Moscow  in early Oct of  2 weeks because they had to stop due to running  out  of  oil. They  had another fatal delay in Aug  42 before stalingrad for the same reasons. Both times there were few russians between them and their  objectives but  no food  ammo and  oil meant they  couldnt  move.

RV

Quote from: ldub23 on April 26, 2021, 07:18:56 AM
Economics was the entire reason Hitler invaded Russia and the  reason he wanted to go south, not toward Moscow. Many  people say if the Germans had been able to send  more divisions east they would  have won, but they couldnt because they couldnt supply them. With the divisions they sent they had a fatal delay before  Moscow  in early Oct of  2 weeks because they had to stop due to running  out  of  oil. They  had another fatal delay in Aug  42 before stalingrad for the same reasons. Both times there were few russians between them and their  objectives but  no food  ammo and  oil meant they  couldnt  move.

Funny, I have many books on the second WW, have watched many a documentary on it and had a decorated Father who fought in WWII and they tell a VERY different story then you tell. I wonder why that is?
RV

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Solar

Quote from: RV on April 27, 2021, 02:17:44 AM
Funny, I have many books on the second WW, have watched many a documentary on it and had a decorated Father who fought in WWII and they tell a VERY different story then you tell. I wonder why that is?
Yep, same here, my dad told/showed me the horror of WWI and WWII both and it's obvious, the gullible don't want the truth, they want a varnished and rewritten view of war.
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winterset

Quote from: ldub23 on April 26, 2021, 07:10:41 AM
Economics  is the  bigger  picture.

Guess what dude?

No one buys your crap or the crap of the idiot in the video.

Hoofer

Quote from: winterset on April 27, 2021, 03:10:31 AM
Guess what dude?

No one buys your crap or the crap of the idiot in the video.

Yup - when he makes blanket statements like:
Quote from: ldub23 on April 26, 2021, 07:18:56 AM
Economics was the entire reason Hitler invaded Russia and the  reason he wanted to go south, not toward Moscow.

Boneheadedness.   My Grandfather fought them in WW1, and tried to fight them again in WW2, but was told, "we need you in other ways for the war effort - but your son, we'll take him."   The Axis was brutal, unmerciful, would gladly die for "economic reasons" - the advancement of their RACE, the cause, the glory of expanding economies their empires.

Revisionist History - ignore centuries of Germanic Culture and claim it was "economics".    :rolleyes:
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RV

Quote from: ldub23 on April 23, 2021, 03:06:49 AM
I think it  meant everything to him. He hated Jewish capitalism and hated Jewish Marxism. Now that doesnt  mean he UNDERSTOOD economics. He clearly didnt.

That seems to be the liberal Democrat message, hate anything you don't understand nor agree with. Kill what you hate. Hitler blamed all of Germany's problems on the Jews just like the Democrat blame all of America's problems on Capitalism, "White Supremacy", Conservatism, self defense, law and order, peace, the Constitution, freedom, liberty, ethics, morality and love for God. In short, anyone who supports President Trump.
RV

"Trust in the Lord with all of your heart and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy path."

ldub23

Quote from: RV on April 29, 2021, 03:07:56 AM
That seems to be the liberal Democrat message, hate anything you don't understand nor agree with. Kill what you hate. Hitler blamed all of Germany's problems on the Jews just like the Democrat blame all of America's problems on Capitalism, "White Supremacy", Conservatism, self defense, law and order, peace, the Constitution, freedom, liberty, ethics, morality and love for God. In short, anyone who supports President Trump.

And  it appears we fail to understand  history.

Hoofer

Quote from: ldub23 on April 29, 2021, 10:58:09 AM
And  it appears we fail to understand  history.

"WE" as in YOU.   You're friend is a history revisionist, and you're not answering any of the questions.
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winterset

Quote from: ldub23 on April 29, 2021, 10:58:09 AM
And  it appears we fail to understand  history.

So far you have shown an abysmal lack of judgement in who you believe.

Or is it a case of what you WANT to believe?