Started by wiktorkovalski, June 21, 2015, 10:25:57 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 21, 2015, 10:55:11 PM...when in truth, no one is threatening Russia?
Quote from: kalash on August 02, 2015, 04:39:07 AMIs this a joke or you completely ignorant on the topic?
Quote from: supsalemgr on August 02, 2015, 04:46:01 AMPlease fill us in. Who is threatening Russia and it what way?
Quote from: kalash on August 02, 2015, 05:32:42 AMJustify please, continuing existenсe of NATO and spreading of it toward Russian borders?
Quote from: Solar on August 02, 2015, 06:33:19 AMThen you need to define threat, because normal people translate threat as one of a physical nature.Are you saying the US is physically threatening Russia?
Quote from: kalash on August 03, 2015, 05:53:57 AMWouldn't be for Russia too late to react if US start getting "physical"? Every country, especially great ones, had to have means of protection. And buy the way, what is the size of US military budget? Isn't it like size of 8 or 10 countries, that follow the list behind US, combined? How many military bases have Russia next to US? Maybe Russia trying to install "anti-Iran" missiles in Mexico? It's dangerous games american administration playing in nuclear age...
Quote from: supsalemgr on August 03, 2015, 06:41:49 AMPlease try to understand that NATO was formed as an alliance to discourage the old Soviet Union from further aggressive expansion. That being said, when the SU broke up and the "cold war" ended the threat from Russia was diminished. Now Mr. Putin has gone back to the type indications he would like to "put the band back together" as was the SU. Therefore, The US is hopefully fulfilling its NATO obligations to protect member countries. The US has no desire for a conflict with Russia. We have our hands full with another enemy, radical Islam. Our current president is a fool, or something worse, and will not acknowledge our enemy. That does mean the enemy is not there. Your statement about Russian missiles in Mexico is a straw man argument. It is apples and oranges.
Quote from: Mountainshield on August 05, 2015, 05:11:02 AMRussia's true enemy is Radical Islam and China. Europe does not want to take anything from Russia, we just want to buy their natural resources, and they pretty much dictate the prices. Pretty foolish of Putin to antagonize Europe even if NATO is expanding. It is ironic but a new tsarist and traditional cultured Russia is a perfect member for NATO.China wants Sibir, would not be surprised if their plan is to annex by colonization with Han Chinese illegal immigration all of Russia's eastern part. Problem is that where Russia have most of it's natural resources, resources they are also planning on saving for posterity. Radical Islam want global domination and Russia already have a problem with Islamist terrorist.When Putin is replaced by a younger Non-USSR era dictator I think Russia will become a strong ally of the US and Europe if not part of NATO (or equivalent new future alliance) eventually. Problem with Putin and the old guard is they feel personally humiliated by the US for losing the cold war and the complete utter failure of Soviet Socialism.
Quote from: supsalemgr on August 05, 2015, 05:30:54 AMI think you make an excellent analysis about new leadership. I was in Russia a few years ago before Putin started his mischief. It seemed the younger generation was embracing capitalism and their new freedoms. There were signs that folks really wanted to be friends with the west. A new younger generation will not have the memories of the false strength of the old SU and will hopefully see the benefits of alliance with the west. We have a common enemy of radical Islam.