Quote from: Solar on February 27, 2013, 04:59:24 AM
No son, in the real world, those that vote emotionally are liberal.

I see, in your bizarre world cons that vote con based on social issues are liberals. Wow.

The fact is that Falmouth is provably moderate to con, supsalemgr screwed up calling it lib, you bought it, and you're lamely trying to duck his and your flubs.

And anyone that believes Green energy is even remotely viable is a bleeding heart Idiot, it is a Stand Alone energy source when no other is available.

Wrong, still. It's competitive here some already, including some of the hydro that you strangely think is not green, and much more so other places where nukes and fossil fuels don't get the massive corporate welfare that you refuse to admit even exists, or that it's been promoted and defended largely by anti-free market cons.

Quote from: Solar on February 27, 2013, 05:05:52 AM
See, this is where you've failed miserably, Republicans may in some cases and RINO in every case back corporate subsidy, however on this forum we are Conservatives and want Govt completely out of the Free mkt...

You, a supposed con, have yet to admit that nukes and fossil fuels get far more in direct and indirect subsidies than green energy does. If you're way of claiming that you're a free marketer is only possible if you deny reality, you're no free marketer at all.

Quote from: John Barth on February 27, 2013, 02:28:55 PM
You, a supposed con, have yet to admit that nukes and fossil fuels get far more in direct and indirect subsidies than green energy does. If you're way of claiming that you're a free marketer is only possible if you deny reality, you're no free marketer at all.

I see Vrede is still responding to her own posts.

Quote from: supsalemgr on February 27, 2013, 05:50:55 AM
This is Vrede from the BRD forum. She posted the same post on that board trying to bait me into responding. The administratoer of that board posted two posts from this board.

Looks like you're diverting from the fact that you screwed up from the get-go in describing Falmouth as liberal. It makes no difference who points it out, man up, your premise completely falls apart when it turns out to have gone 55-45 for the GOP Senate candidate.

Irony.

Quote from: supsalemgr on February 27, 2013, 02:31:41 PM
I see John Barth is still responding to her own posts.

No, I responded to Solar, as everyone can see from my quote of her/him. Why are you choosing dishonesty and why do you think you can get away with it on the same page?

Quote from: John Barth on February 27, 2013, 02:18:44 PM
Wrong, still. It's competitive here some already, including some of the hydro that you strangely think is not green, and much more so other places where nukes and fossil fuels don't get the massive corporate welfare that you refuse to admit even exists, or that it's been promoted and defended largely by anti-free market cons.

Completely ignored post #59.
Now go back and respond, and I suggest you answer my earlier question.

Quote from: taxed on February 27, 2013, 09:52:24 AM
Barth, can you please try and generate enough brain power to figure out the quoting functionality?  It really isn't that hard. 

I have no idea what you're talking about. Every one of my posts includes the quote I'm responding to and who posted it.

We'll discuss your responses, one at a time.

A few things. First, government subsidies are never supported by conservatives.  Please show us where conservatives or conservative policy is for government subsidies.  You brought it into the discussion, so please elaborate on your supporting points.

Nukes, fossil fuels and, as it turns out, the community that supsalemgr falsely called lib, which all of you swallowed without checking.

We are still waiting for you to answer Solar's question...

If you mean the direct and indirect subsidies for nukes and fossil fuels, I have in detail. If you mean proving that green can compete on a level playing field, it was his straw man. I have no responsibility to address his inventions.

Can you answer my question? Solar didn't. Prove that it can't.

Quote from: Solar on February 27, 2013, 02:45:31 PM
Completely ignored post #59...

I'm working my way down to it, you're whining too soon.

Quote from: John Barth on February 27, 2013, 02:18:44 PM
Wrong, still. It's competitive here some already, including some of the hydro that you strangely think is not green, and much more so other places where nukes and fossil fuels don't get the massive corporate welfare that you refuse to admit even exists, or that it's been promoted and defended largely by anti-free market cons.

And no!!! Hydro is Not Green, associating an efficient energy with the term Green is pure BS!
Is it renewable? Absolutely yes, but is it Green, like all the other BS the socialists are trying to cram down our throats, absolutely not! Green means socialism, learn your history.

Besides, you can't include hydro anyway, we haven't built a new dam in Husein's lifetime, so he is not entitled to include it as party of his socialist scheme.

Quote from: taxed on February 27, 2013, 10:03:11 AM
...Even if we were to assume your assertion that the city is "conservative" because more voted for Brown, you would be shooting yourself in the foot, because Brown is a lib RINO...

They voted for the more conservative candidate. It may be news to you but that's how our system works. By any sane definition based on voter registration and voting patterns Falmouth is moderate to con, supsalemgr messed up in calling it liberal, y'all swallowed it, and neither he nor you can bring yourselves to admit it.

Quote from: supsalemgr on February 27, 2013, 02:31:41 PM
I see Vrede is still responding to her own posts.

Thought I recognized the style from another forum, a dead one at that.  Susales, is this truly the same person?  Sure sounds like the same brain-dead person that lurked on the last forum you and I were on together-although I was on it with a different user name.  Not to worry, we know exactly how long they last here.  These kind generally can't keep their insults down even if they keep their facts straight.  Too funny how they always wind up gloating to themselves in their own mirrors.  Nobody else will put up with them.   

Solar, "confident" and "think" are both opinions. You lied in saying that I said I it was fact and are now lying in claiming I've lied about what I posted. I do note that you have chosen not to look it up for yourself. Easier for your reality that way?

There's a simple solution - get your con reps to end all energy subsidies - Exxon defends it's own sources and transportation routes, nukes insure themselves fully for their potential liability like every other energy source does, etc. - and we'll see what the market decides. But, we all know that this will never happen, 4 pages now and you can't even admit that the non-green energy gets subsidized.

I don't care what "EIA" (?) or Obama says about hydro, as you now admit it's renewable and thus green in some applications and you were wrong to first cite is an example of non-green.

As for your statements about the world getting more energy from non-renewables - duh! My point all along is that they're massively subsidized, directly or with externalized costs. Sorry you went to all that effort debunking something I haven't posted.

Quote from: Solar on February 27, 2013, 02:54:36 PM
And no!!! Hydro is Not Green, associating an efficient energy with the term Green is pure BS!
Is it renewable? Absolutely yes, but is it Green, like all the other BS the socialists are trying to cram down our throats, absolutely not! Green means socialism, learn your history.

Renewable, depending on the situational specifics, equals green. The political ideology promoting it is irrelevant. Learn your definitions.

For example nukes, which so many cons love, are and always have been as socialized an energy source as we've had. Look up their research history, special legislation, construction funding, state authorized pre-billing (unlike other energy sources) and ongoing loan guarantees.

Besides, you can't include hydro anyway, we haven't built a new dam in Husein's lifetime, so he is not entitled to include it as party of his socialist scheme.

I merely responded to your laughable claim that it's not green, construction dates are irrelevant. Nukes are what they are, their nature doesn't change because we haven't built a new one in decades. You're just not making sense now.

Quote from: supsalemgr on February 27, 2013, 05:58:07 AM...Eventually she will evolve into disparaging remarks as her posts are debunked.

Umm, that's been all your side from the start of this chat. Kinda hypocritical of you not to notice, isn't it?

Now, about your false premise that Falmouth is liberal - Are you ever going to correct it and apologize to the several cons you duped now that it's been debunked? Or, will you just post more "disparaging remarks" about me as you divert again?

The Vred, MSConstrued, Harpo, et al, is happy now that she has someone to argue with.  Her home forum has truned into a lib mutual admiration society so no excitement there.

Word to the wise, the Vred never lets go.  She's the Everready Energized Rabbit on steroids