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Title: Daylight saving time
Post by: walkstall on March 07, 2015, 08:31:11 PM
Don't for get to set your clock ahead one hr. tonight or first thing in the A.M.   :cursing:
March 8th it starts.
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: kit saginaw on March 07, 2015, 08:38:43 PM
Again?  It takes over a week to recover from it.  We still have 6,8,10 inches of snow on the ground.  And it's piled everywhere.
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: walkstall on March 07, 2015, 09:01:36 PM
Quote from: kit saginaw on March 07, 2015, 08:38:43 PM
Again?  It takes over a week to recover from it.  We still have 6,8,10 inches of snow on the ground.  And it's piled everywhere.

Today it was 75º and in the sun it said 94º.  I am going to put down 300lbs. of lawn fertilizer this coming week. 
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: Solar on March 08, 2015, 05:45:10 AM
Quote from: kit saginaw on March 07, 2015, 08:38:43 PM
Again?  It takes over a week to recover from it.  We still have 6,8,10 inches of snow on the ground.  And it's piled everywhere.
Every year it's the same thing, pols talk about removing daylights saving time as if it were crucial, the day after, all is forgotten.
I still don't understand the lobby behind keeping it, who benefits?

Oh, and we've been in solid spring since January, pushing the upper 70s again today. And no, it's not a good thing.
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: TboneAgain on March 08, 2015, 11:09:49 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 08, 2015, 05:45:10 AM
Every year it's the same thing, pols talk about removing daylights saving time as if it were crucial, the day after, all is forgotten.
I still don't understand the lobby behind keeping it, who benefits?

Oh, and we've been in solid spring since January, pushing the upper 70s again today. And no, it's not a good thing.

Makers of sporting equipment. Owners of outdoor entertainment and recreation venues. Supposedly an extra hour of evening leisure time during the work week makes a difference. Sounds like bullshit to me. Theater owners hate it. The railroads too.

I know this much -- from now until November, the clock in my Explorer will be right.  :tounge:
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: walkstall on March 08, 2015, 11:20:24 AM
Quote from: TboneAgain on March 08, 2015, 11:09:49 AM
Makers of sporting equipment. Owners of outdoor entertainment and recreation venues. Supposedly an extra hour of evening leisure time during the work week makes a difference. Sounds like bullshit to me. Theater owners hate it. The railroads too.

I know this much -- from now until November, the clock in my Explorer will be right.  :tounge:

How do we know what is the true time.    My internal clock tell me when to get up, go to bed and when to eat.   :lol:
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: Solar on March 08, 2015, 12:31:38 PM
Quote from: TboneAgain on March 08, 2015, 11:09:49 AM
Makers of sporting equipment. Owners of outdoor entertainment and recreation venues. Supposedly an extra hour of evening leisure time during the work week makes a difference. Sounds like bullshit to me. Theater owners hate it. The railroads too.

I know this much -- from now until November, the clock in my Explorer will be right.  :tounge:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Every year, without fail, I forget how to change the time in my truck.
If not for Toy, it would only be right half the time.
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: quiller on March 08, 2015, 12:34:29 PM
Quote from: walkstall on March 08, 2015, 11:20:24 AM
How do we know what is the true time.    My internal clock tell me when to get up, go to bed and when to eat.   :lol:

Mine also. I seem to function best in the dead of night.
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: Dori on March 08, 2015, 01:05:23 PM
I love it.  :biggrin:  I'm very affected by sun light.

Nothing depresses me more than in the fall when the sun starts setting at 4:30 pm.
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: TboneAgain on March 08, 2015, 01:19:50 PM
Back in the mid-1980s, I was working for an engineering firm and I was assigned to work on a project on the Ohio River between Kentucky and Indiana. Our activities were spread over a large area in both states, and included several excursions to the Louisville KY airport.

In those days, as now, Indiana and Kentucky are both split between the Eastern and Central time zones, and our project area straddled that line. Even worse, back then Indiana did DST on a county-by-county basis -- some counties changed their clocks, some didn't. In other words, in that part of the world, depending on which county you were standing in at a given moment, it could be 2:00 or 3:00 or 4:00.  :scared:

Trying to figure out what the hell time it was -- not only here and now but where you were headed -- presented challenges, to say the least.
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: zewazir on March 12, 2015, 10:04:10 PM
I prefer DST, as it leaves more daylight at the end of the day. Makes a bigger difference in the northern states than south.

In December I drive to work in the dark, and drive home in the dark. Depressing.
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: TboneAgain on March 12, 2015, 11:47:02 PM
Quote from: zewazir on March 12, 2015, 10:04:10 PM
I prefer DST, as it leaves more daylight at the end of the day. Makes a bigger difference in the northern states than south.

In December I drive to work in the dark, and drive home in the dark. Depressing.

Since DST doesn't alter the workings of the planet or the solar system, I think that the minutes you seem to gain at the end of the day are stolen from the start of the day. DST is just us playing with our clocks.
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: zewazir on March 13, 2015, 10:05:11 AM
Quote from: TboneAgain on March 12, 2015, 11:47:02 PM
Since DST doesn't alter the workings of the planet or the solar system, I think that the minutes you seem to gain at the end of the day are stolen from the start of the day. DST is just us playing with our clocks.
I am fully aware of that. The days immediately prior to the start of DST, I leave the house for work a little after sunrise, and drive home about 1/2 hour before sunset. After DST starts, I leave the house prior to sunrise, but drive home a good 90 minutes prior to sunset. That gives me an extra hour of daylight in the evenings by moving my workday toward the morning. It doesn't give me more total daylight, but moves the daylight to a time I can better use it. I don't mind driving to work in the dark. I fix computers. It does not matter what is happening outside when I'm working. When I get home, I like that extra hour of daylight to do things around the home.

Of course in full summer, sunrise starts well before I leave for work, and sunset doesn't occur until 10PM. But in the late winter/early spring, DST makes a positive difference to my home life.
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: TboneAgain on March 13, 2015, 09:28:03 PM
Quik QuizTM: Who came up with our time zones in the first place? (Hint: It was not the federal government.)
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: walkstall on March 13, 2015, 09:57:39 PM
Quote from: TboneAgain on March 13, 2015, 09:28:03 PM
Quik QuizTM: Who came up with our time zones in the first place? (Hint: It was not the federal government.)

Canadian railway engineer Sir Sandford Fleming.
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: TboneAgain on March 13, 2015, 10:05:30 PM
Quote from: walkstall on March 13, 2015, 09:57:39 PM
Canadian railway engineer Sir Sandford Fleming.

I was just gonna say "the railroads," but you're right. It was all about their train schedules. Before they instituted the time standards, the local time was just that -- the local time. It was the railroads, saddled with the need to schedule things over hundreds of miles, who came up with the idea.

Along the same lines, we're approaching what a lot of folks call the "first official day of Spring." Thirty or forty years ago, there wasn't any such thing. Only in recent years have the NOAA and the Weather Service adopted the occurrence of astronomical events -- which obviously have nothing to do with seasons or weather -- as demarcations of the seasons.

Seems like everybody wants to set a clock to something or other.
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: walkstall on March 13, 2015, 10:12:28 PM
Quote from: TboneAgain on March 13, 2015, 10:05:30 PM
I was just gonna say "the railroads," but you're right. It was all about their train schedules. Before they instituted the time standards, the local time was just that -- the local time. It was the railroads, saddled with the need to schedule things over hundreds of miles, who came up with the idea.

Along the same lines, we're approaching what a lot of folks call the "first official day of Spring." Thirty or forty years ago, there wasn't any such thing. Only in recent years have the NOAA and the Weather Service adopted the occurrence of astronomical events -- which obviously have nothing to do with seasons or weather -- as demarcations of the seasons.

Seems like everybody wants to set a clock to something or other.

My internal clock has a mind of it own.  :lol:
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: quiller on March 14, 2015, 06:18:42 AM
I've emphasized two lines from this CBC News item about Daylight Savings Time. Ask yourself: isn't it grand to throw voters into a biological tailspin, just before they vote?...

QuotePlanning ahead

If you want to mark your calendar now so that you don't get caught off-guard by the next time change, here's the schedule through 2019:

    2015: Spring forward Sunday, March 8 at 2 a.m. Fall back Sunday, Nov. 1 at 2 a.m.
    2016: Spring forward Sunday, March 13 at 2 a.m. Fall back Sunday, Nov. 6 at 2 a.m.
    2017: Spring forward Sunday, March 12 at 2 a.m. Fall back Sunday, Nov. 5 at 2 a.m.
    2018: Spring forward Sunday, March 11 at 2 a.m. Fall back Sunday, Nov. 4 at 2 a.m.
    2019: Spring forward Sunday, March 10 at 2 a.m. Fall back Sunday, Nov. 3 at 2 a.m.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daylight-saving-time-2015-6-eye-opening-facts-about-the-time-change-1.1333086 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daylight-saving-time-2015-6-eye-opening-facts-about-the-time-change-1.1333086)
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: zewazir on March 14, 2015, 09:51:40 PM
Quote from: quiller on March 14, 2015, 06:18:42 AM
I've emphasized two lines from this CBC News item about Daylight Savings Time. Ask yourself: isn't it grand to throw voters into a biological tailspin, just before they vote?...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daylight-saving-time-2015-6-eye-opening-facts-about-the-time-change-1.1333086 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daylight-saving-time-2015-6-eye-opening-facts-about-the-time-change-1.1333086)
I don't see a problem. In the fall, the change gives us a 49 hour weekend. About the only thing that happens on election day is I'll wake a hour early (according to the clock) which, if I desire, I can use for an extra long shower, extra long breakfast, a little morning recreational reading, or some combination of all three.

It's the missing hour in spring I have some difficulty adjusting - though not a lot.
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: walkstall on March 14, 2015, 10:21:35 PM
Quote from: zewazir on March 14, 2015, 09:51:40 PM
I don't see a problem. In the fall, the change gives us a 49 hour weekend. About the only thing that happens on election day is I'll wake a hour early (according to the clock) which, if I desire, I can use for an extra long shower, extra long breakfast, a little morning recreational reading, or some combination of all three.

It's the missing hour in spring I have some difficulty adjusting - though not a lot.


I can go to bed at any time.  I don't care what time a day it is.  I get up 4 hrs. later.  It was nice working shift work as I had no problems sleeping.  The kids could run through the house and have fun and I would not wake up.  But let my wife call my name or the house get dead quiet and I would wake right up.   For me time is only for appointments.  My wife at last is starting to enjoy not caring what day it is.
Title: Re: Daylight saving time
Post by: Solar on March 14, 2015, 10:51:43 PM
Quote from: walkstall on March 14, 2015, 10:21:35 PM

I can go to bed at any time.  I don't care what time a day it is.  I get up 4 hrs. later.  It was nice working shift work as I had no problems sleeping.  The kids could run through the house and have fun and I would not wake up.  But let my wife call my name or the house get dead quiet and I would wake right up.   For me time is only for appointments.  My wife at last is starting to enjoy not caring what day it is.
Same here. If not for Toy telling me she's off Friday or whenever, I'd never know what day it is.
Don't watch TV, and sure as Hell don't need a watch, time has become irrelevant, except for Toy lives by the clock still, and needs her solid 8 hrs of sleep.

When she retire in 2017, all the clocks go in the trash.