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June 11, 2021, 10:03:09 PM

To Garden or not...?

Started by Hoofer, June 04, 2021, 01:49:37 AM

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Hoofer

Read a short post on a site, the lady was scared to death about food shortages.
She said, some government official purchased a farmer's entire crop of their farm, multi-crops, not just corn, at a high price, under the condition they destroy it before harvest.  Of course, she was freaking out...

The USDA has price support programs, since as far back as I can remember, 1970s?   it's a crap shoot, usually a good deal for the farmer, plant, and plow it under, get paid much more than the usual crop would have been worth.  If the crop prices are low, from a bumper crop, or just doesn't grow well because of weather - you make out really good, might even "save the farm"!   It's fine, if you didn't need the crops for your livestock.

enough of that - nothing to get worried about, it's NOT a nefarious government plot to starve us.  It's a USDA program, another one of those we are STUCK with.


If you didn't start a garden, or have a garden plot, now is the time to start preparing for NEXT YEAR.
Compost pile, start one, just dump everything you find on it.  Leaves, sticks, food scraps, anything organic, grass clippings, just build it, water it to get it going.  Next year, you'll have some really great stuff to start your garden plot. 

Make the pile BIG.   I mean really, really BIG, it's gonna break down to a small, rotted pile.  We did a pile of sawdust & horse manure, 80-100' long, 20' wide and 8-10' high.  I just backed the manure spreader up and let it fly.  The next spring, it was barely 2' high, and some of the darkest stuff I'd ever seen - full of earthworms.  The heat from decomposting through the Wisconsin winter, kept the snow from staying on it more than a couple of days, it just stayed hot. 

By the time we spread the whole pile out, plowed & tilled it, mixing it with the crappy CLAY soil in the garden - it hardly made a difference in color, but, you could see organic matter (finally) mixed with the red clay.  That year was decent for the big garden.  The next year, was incredible!  Huge potato crop, Tomatoes were running amuck, Acorn squash, water mellons, Cukes, everything was growing like crazy!   Wifey and I used newspapers around the plants, to keep the weeds down - from a distance, the garden looked like it was a huge bed of weeds & newspapers - it was all garden plants.

That one big spike of composted trash, yielded many years of great gardening.  It took one summer of dumping everything we could into it, and I didn't flip or mix it once (pile was just that big), but, mixing it would have given us a more evenly rotted compost mix.  Don't be afraid to put grass, sticks & leaves into to, that stuff will really do a great job, delivering just what crappy soil needs.

On our farm, we scoop out the Duck pond, the edges of the pig pen, and into some Strawberry Pyramids.  We got Strawberries ... do we EVER have Strawberries! 

BTW, raised beds are GREAT as you get a little older and get tired of bending over.
Another thing about raised beds, they're easy to weed, AND really great for spring & fall covers, like mini-green houses, to get those cool weather crops, lettuce, carrots, radish, etc. started early, and growing later.
Last year, we had tomatoes in December...  it might have gone all winter, but one night the plastic over blew off, and the frost killed the plants.
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Hoofer

We bought 100lbs of Jasmine rice, a favorite of ours, and repacking it into 2 cup bags (1lb), with oxygen absorbers, then vacuum packing (Weston Pro 2300 - a GREAT machine!).

Also doing various forms of Pasta, Spaghetti, elbow macaroni, etc., same thing, in 1lb sizes (pint size, or 6x10" bags), with an oxygen absorber.

Wifey found out about Oxygen Absorbers, if you leave them exposed for a hour...  :confused:  they GET HOT!  Yep, they're working!    :ttoung:

Are we expecting FOOD SHORTAGES...?   Maybe, who knows.
Are we expecting INFLATION of FOOD Prices - absolutely, YES.

When shipping costs climb, everything is going to get more expensive.  Just makes sense to buy the stuff in bulk, we can't GROW and re-package it for long term storage (duh, we'll have a lot more than we can eat in a year or two).  Repackaging with Oxygen Absorbers can extend the life 3x.  Keeping it in a cool, dry place - several times that.

In the times of good harvest, we stored.  My parents & grandparents did a lot of canning for the winter, we're doing the same, canning and storing for when times are lean & money is tight.

In a month or two, the garden should start producing Green Beans... a favorite of mine.
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Solars Toy

Solar has been on me to stock more.  I have my garden going but it is only summer basics.  I still have tomatoes from last year that I haven't touched in the freezer. 

My youngest daughter and her fiancĂ© planted their front yard with a bunch of assorted veggies and 14 tomato plants.  She makes her own salsa so she wants me to come down this summer and show her (with my equipment) how to can it up.  This should be fun since tomatoes are the one thing I have canned over the years. 

I honestly don't know how my Mom canned so much over the summer.  She did have plenty of "prep" help.   :smile: Toy
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Possum

Love my gardening, since I was a kid. We used to can what we could in mason jars, but over the years have been more of the blanch and freeze.

Solar

Don't forget silica gel if it has any excess moisture just from a humid day while sealing, could cause spoilage.
We use both.
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Hoofer

Quote from: Solar on June 06, 2021, 08:19:55 AMDon't forget silica gel if it has any excess moisture just from a humid day while sealing, could cause spoilage.
We use both.
Yeah, we ran out, got 5 gram packets on order.  Still have a 7.5lb jug on hand (orange indicating), but like a dummy, didn't get around to ordering the baggies.  Those are coming too.  It's pretty dry in the house... not as dry as I'd like it for this!  We also ran out of 1 PT size bags, got those ordered as well.

If we're figuring right, we should have 10yrs on any of this pasta, and even more on the rice.

Also been adding those canned and prepackage Tuna & Fish to the pantry for variety.

My favorite still...  Corn Beef Hash from Aldi... low on the greasy stuff, and it makes a great breakfast with an egg on it, for less than $2.  the price per can rose from $1.29 to $1.69 - missed out on that price increase!

We can't say enough GREAT things about this Weston Pro-2300 vacuum sealer.  Years of struggling with those other units, this thing is big, solid & does the job in about 20-30 seconds, sucking & sealing better than anything we've had before (3 of them, name brand units).  We have Wifey's family showing up in a week, staying for 1 1/2 weeks, so any food prep - into the freezer, vacuumed packed first.  I did up 5lbs of beef with 3lbs of mild pork breakfast sausage & Taco seasoning, into bags, and with all the air out, laid them nice and flat in the freezer.  When it comes time for a QUICK lunch, we got a 8x10" bag, about 1/2" thick that'll thaw FAST, drain the excess grease off and we're good to go.  The 1/2 slow cooking time - already done.  If they don't get ate, it'll keep a long time, without freezer burn.

Wifey want's me to pick up Dried Beans - though we seldom eat them, takes too long to cook, IMO.

I need to find Dry Milk - that doesn't taste like chalk.  Not that we'd be drinking it, but mixing it in with other things, like making cheese sauce (which we DO enjoy a lot of).
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Solar

Quote from: Hoofer on June 06, 2021, 08:56:42 AMYeah, we ran out, got 5 gram packets on order.  Still have a 7.5lb jug on hand (orange indicating), but like a dummy, didn't get around to ordering the baggies.  Those are coming too.  It's pretty dry in the house... not as dry as I'd like it for this!  We also ran out of 1 PT size bags, got those ordered as well.

If we're figuring right, we should have 10yrs on any of this pasta, and even more on the rice.

Also been adding those canned and prepackage Tuna & Fish to the pantry for variety.

My favorite still...  Corn Beef Hash from Aldi... low on the greasy stuff, and it makes a great breakfast with an egg on it, for less than $2.  the price per can rose from $1.29 to $1.69 - missed out on that price increase!

We can't say enough GREAT things about this Weston Pro-2300 vacuum sealer.  Years of struggling with those other units, this thing is big, solid & does the job in about 20-30 seconds, sucking & sealing better than anything we've had before (3 of them, name brand units).  We have Wifey's family showing up in a week, staying for 1 1/2 weeks, so any food prep - into the freezer, vacuumed packed first.  I did up 5lbs of beef with 3lbs of mild pork breakfast sausage & Taco seasoning, into bags, and with all the air out, laid them nice and flat in the freezer.  When it comes time for a QUICK lunch, we got a 8x10" bag, about 1/2" thick that'll thaw FAST, drain the excess grease off and we're good to go.  The 1/2 slow cooking time - already done.  If they don't get ate, it'll keep a long time, without freezer burn.

Wifey want's me to pick up Dried Beans - though we seldom eat them, takes too long to cook, IMO.

I need to find Dry Milk - that doesn't taste like chalk.  Not that we'd be drinking it, but mixing it in with other things, like making cheese sauce (which we DO enjoy a lot of).
Years ago I called the company to order a bunch of silica gel, they were out, but she did tell me, if I had a bunch of used bags, to put them in the oven on low and they would dry out and work just like new.
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Hoofer

Quote from: Solar on June 06, 2021, 09:05:57 AMYears ago I called the company to order a bunch of silica gel, they were out, but she did tell me, if I had a bunch of used bags, to put them in the oven on low and they would dry out and work just like new.
I got a few of those big ones, recharged them many times - that was before they got these things that change colors when they're wet.

This time we just need a few hundreds of little ones, and oxygen scavengers.

We're having a bit of trouble with those Mylar bags, plastic bags the air comes right out of them, Mylar isn't working nearly as well.  Smooth or dimpled Mylar bags, neither is working well.
All animals are created equal; Some just take longer to cook.   Survival is keeping an eye on those around you...

walkstall

Quote from: Hoofer on June 06, 2021, 08:56:42 AMYeah, we ran out, got 5 gram packets on order.  Still have a 7.5lb jug on hand (orange indicating), but like a dummy, didn't get around to ordering the baggies.  Those are coming too.  It's pretty dry in the house... not as dry as I'd like it for this!  We also ran out of 1 PT size bags, got those ordered as well.

If we're figuring right, we should have 10yrs on any of this pasta, and even more on the rice.

Also been adding those canned and prepackage Tuna & Fish to the pantry for variety.

My favorite still...  Corn Beef Hash from Aldi... low on the greasy stuff, and it makes a great breakfast with an egg on it, for less than $2.  the price per can rose from $1.29 to $1.69 - missed out on that price increase!

We can't say enough GREAT things about this Weston Pro-2300 vacuum sealer.  Years of struggling with those other units, this thing is big, solid & does the job in about 20-30 seconds, sucking & sealing better than anything we've had before (3 of them, name brand units).  We have Wifey's family showing up in a week, staying for 1 1/2 weeks, so any food prep - into the freezer, vacuumed packed first.  I did up 5lbs of beef with 3lbs of mild pork breakfast sausage & Taco seasoning, into bags, and with all the air out, laid them nice and flat in the freezer.  When it comes time for a QUICK lunch, we got a 8x10" bag, about 1/2" thick that'll thaw FAST, drain the excess grease off and we're good to go.  The 1/2 slow cooking time - already done.  If they don't get ate, it'll keep a long time, without freezer burn.

Wifey want's me to pick up Dried Beans - though we seldom eat them, takes too long to cook, IMO.

I need to find Dry Milk - that doesn't taste like chalk.  Not that we'd be drinking it, but mixing it in with other things, like making cheese sauce (which we DO enjoy a lot of).

IF you have Pressure Cooker or Instant Pot you can cook dry beans.
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dickfoster

Quote from: walkstall on June 06, 2021, 09:35:21 AMIF you have Pressure Cooker or Instant Pot you can cook dry beans.
You can cook dried beans on the stove top or a slow cooker too.
Crazy but not stupid!

Hoofer

Quote from: walkstall on June 06, 2021, 09:35:21 AMIF you have Pressure Cooker or Instant Pot you can cook dry beans.
We have both, 4 Pressure Cookers and an Instant Pot (still in the box), we prefer GAS appliances.

Any recommendations on DRY BEANS, varieties... is appreciated.  I think I've experienced all the "chalk" varieties...

It's like RICE.  Always had "Long Grain White Rice".  Someone said, "ever try Jasmine Rice, it tastes pretty good by comparison.   We're hooked on Jasmine Rice now.
All animals are created equal; Some just take longer to cook.   Survival is keeping an eye on those around you...

Solar

Quote from: Hoofer on June 06, 2021, 10:25:12 AMWe have both, 4 Pressure Cookers and an Instant Pot (still in the box), we prefer GAS appliances.

Any recommendations on DRY BEANS, varieties... is appreciated.  I think I've experienced all the "chalk" varieties...

It's like RICE.  Always had "Long Grain White Rice".  Someone said, "ever try Jasmine Rice, it tastes pretty good by comparison.  We're hooked on Jasmine Rice now.
Nothing beats Calif wild rice for flavor and nutrition. The guy and his family have been harvesting it for decades.
Wish I could remember their name, but you can search it out.
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walkstall

Quote from: dickfoster on June 06, 2021, 09:56:41 AMYou can cook dried beans on the stove top or a slow cooker too.

Yep!  But it will take well a lot more time.
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dickfoster

Quote from: walkstall on June 06, 2021, 03:07:11 PMYep!  But it will take well a lot more time.
Yes but I think low and slow cooking usually makes things taste better.
As a general rule of thumb, you get what you pay for, be it money, time or effort.
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Hoofer

Quote from: Solar on June 06, 2021, 11:17:18 AMNothing beats Calif wild rice for flavor and nutrition. The guy and his family have been harvesting it for decades.
Wish I could remember their name, but you can search it out.
http://www.calwildrice.org/
I like wild rice for the VARIETY it adds, I'd never eat it alone, always mixed, usually with a chunk of Meat or Seafood mixed in... adds a unique earth flavor.. like when ashes blew into our spaghetti on a campout.

Lundberg Family Farms
Fall river Wild Rice
Gibbs Wild Rice.

any of those sound familiar?
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