I am going to start a discussion thread on survival for people who live in the suburbs or the city.
It is just so normal people can build a closet stored emergency kit, a portable bugging out kit, or a vehicle stored kit. Feel free to add or adjust items. Please share your thoughts, experiences, and opinions.

I've found a good approach to starting a list. Literally, write down everything you do starting the moment you wake up.
Take meds, make coffee, take a dump? In other words, these items should be first on the list of stuff to duplicate and put in your Go Bag.

Meds, coffee, TP, water, adjust your breakfast so that it doesn't shock your system. Eggs? buy powdered eggs, same with milk, preferably freeze dried (everything)!  You may think it's disgusting, but you'll be glad you did.
Anyway, keep a list of your entire daily routine, and pack accordingly.

If you have room, make it a weeks worth to keep you as close to a normal routine as possible, but plan for 3 months to get you past the idiots who didn't prepare.
The last thing you want to do is have to deal with panicked crowds, wait till they kill each other off first before you venture out.

Obviously:
Water is a must.
Basic food.
Basic hand tools which includes a shovel, knives, jumper cables, and flashlights.
Pre-packed clothes which focuses on warm or comfortable and not necessarily dressy.
Extra jackets and coats.
Camping supplies even if it is just a sleeping bag, a folding chair, a blanket, and extra cheap cookware/dinnerware that you have no problem throwing away if broken.
First aid kits and portable fire extinguishers.
Toiletries: toilet paper, paper towels, towels, wash cloths, and rags.

Ultimately, a plan. Don't venture out if you don't need to. Know your escape routes. Assume that everybody is an enemy.

Anybody have experience with solar power/battery packs?

Anybody have experience with long term food kits?

Know your neighbors, who you can count on. A group will have better odds of surviving that one person.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on October 04, 2021, 01:37:37 PMObviously:
Water is a must.
Basic food.
Basic hand tools which includes a shovel, knives, jumper cables, and flashlights.
Pre-packed clothes which focuses on warm or comfortable and not necessarily dressy.
Extra jackets and coats.
Camping supplies even if it is just a sleeping bag, a folding chair, a blanket, and extra cheap cookware/dinnerware that you have no problem throwing away if broken.
First aid kits and portable fire extinguishers.
Toiletries: toilet paper, paper towels, towels, wash cloths, and rags.

Ultimately, a plan. Don't venture out if you don't need to. Know your escape routes. Assume that everybody is an enemy.

Tools should already be in your car, or ready to go next to the car. Everything should be disposable, paper plates forks etc, but keep one metal Spork, makes a good weapon when caught off guard.
One good cook pot, fry pan, keep it light in the event you have to move.

It's best to have a plan, a place on public land where you can bury emergency items you won't be able to carry.
Can goods keep well in a sealed container when buried below the freeze line.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on October 04, 2021, 01:40:47 PMAnybody have experience with solar power/battery packs?

Anybody have experience with long term food kits?

What do you need to know? I retired in alternative energy, I've dealt with it all.

Freeze dried food is the only way to go. Dehydrated is OK, but taste can be an issue, but it costs a third of freeze dried.
Pancake mix, eggs, powdered milk, are all ok, not great, but damn, when you're hungry, you don't care.
Rice is a life saver as well, heavy, but goes a long way, powdered soups, like French onion will bring life to anything you cook, even raccoon, add rice and you have a meal..

Point is, food is the most important thing to pack outside of a rifle and a lot of ammo.

Quote from: Solar on October 04, 2021, 07:47:26 PMWhat do you need to know? I retired in alternative energy, I've dealt with it all.

Freeze dried food is the only way to go. Dehydrated is OK, but taste can be an issue, but it costs a third of freeze dried.
Pancake mix, eggs, powdered milk, are all ok, not great, but damn, when you're hungry, you don't care.
Rice is a life saver as well, heavy, but goes a long way, powdered soups, like French onion will bring life to anything you cook, even raccoon, add rice and you have a meal..

Point is, food is the most important thing to pack outside of a rifle and a lot of ammo.

I am asking about portable power packs such as Jackery and the like. You can plug in a solar panel into it.
https://www.jackery.com/pages/portable-power-products

I am inquiring about the 25 year food packs you can buy.

Quote from: Solar on October 04, 2021, 07:38:34 PMTools should already be in your car, or ready to go next to the car. Everything should be disposable, paper plates forks etc, but keep one metal Spork, makes a good weapon when caught off guard.
One good cook pot, fry pan, keep it light in the event you have to move.

It's best to have a plan, a place on public land where you can bury emergency items you won't be able to carry.
Can goods keep well in a sealed container when buried below the freeze line.

Obviously, we already have jumper cables and things in our cars. I was just being generic in making a list. The objective was to have bags and bins ready in some form or another.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on October 04, 2021, 09:43:33 PMI am asking about portable power packs such as Jackery and the like. You can plug in a solar panel into it.
https://www.jackery.com/pages/portable-power-products

I am inquiring about the 25 year food packs you can buy.

They're ok if you're rich, but a creative person could make up the same thing for under $500.0.
If it's all about convenience, then yeah, but if you're trying to save money, just buy all the components separate.
Cheap inverter, lithium battery or pick up a Supercapacitor for quick charging.

https://www.instructables.com/The-Forever-Rechargeable-VARIABLE-Super-Capacitor-/

Even those mini starters like ... 
https://www.banggood.com/16800mAh-12V-Car-Jump-Starter-Rechargeable-Lithium-Battery-Booster-Power-Bank-4USB-Multi-Function-p-1067453.html?imageAb=1&akmClientCountry=America&cur_warehouse=CN

You can pick up a cheap solar panel for free if you're resourceful, some places are giving them away and buying new, and there is nothing wrong with them, they just don't fit the purpose they were designed for, but as long as they still produce energy....

But don't forget a mini quiet generator like the Ryobi 1200/2500 watt, I have three, they're a damn good backup plan.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on October 04, 2021, 09:43:33 PMI am asking about portable power packs such as Jackery and the like. You can plug in a solar panel into it.
https://www.jackery.com/pages/portable-power-products

I am inquiring about the 25 year food packs you can buy.

We invested in a product called Thrive. They even carry meat -we like the diced chicken and turkey.  Works great for a soup or stir fry.  Their Instant milk is actually drinkable too. One item they had and I invested in was the heirloom seed kit.  Toy

Quote from: Solar on October 05, 2021, 04:36:59 AMThey're ok if you're rich, but a creative person could make up the same thing for under $500.0.
If it's all about convenience, then yeah, but if you're trying to save money, just buy all the components separate.
Cheap inverter, lithium battery or pick up a Supercapacitor for quick charging.

https://www.instructables.com/The-Forever-Rechargeable-VARIABLE-Super-Capacitor-/

Even those mini starters like ... 
https://www.banggood.com/16800mAh-12V-Car-Jump-Starter-Rechargeable-Lithium-Battery-Booster-Power-Bank-4USB-Multi-Function-p-1067453.html?imageAb=1&akmClientCountry=America&cur_warehouse=CN

You can pick up a cheap solar panel for free if you're resourceful, some places are giving them away and buying new, and there is nothing wrong with them, they just don't fit the purpose they were designed for, but as long as they still produce energy....

But don't forget a mini quiet generator like the Ryobi 1200/2500 watt, I have three, they're a damn good backup plan.

There are lot's of camping/overland reviews on the Jackery products. Overall, the power stations are good but the solar panels aren't super robust. But, the reason I am looking at this brand or any other brand is it is something that is small and portable. You can store it in your closet or car and setup on a patio or balcony or car roof or whatever. This is for people who don't live off grid like both of you nor have the luxury of running a generator from a multi-story apartment or condo. This is for real emergencies and not just every time you have bad weather. My only concern is the long term on the batteries.

Quote from: Solars Toy on October 05, 2021, 04:49:31 AMWe invested in a product called Thrive. They even carry meat -we like the diced chicken and turkey.  Works great for a soup or stir fry.  Their Instant milk is actually drinkable too. One item they had and I invested in was the heirloom seed kit.  Toy

I was looking at more on the MRE type options. One pouch meals. Just as a last resort after your pantry food is gone. Something that will last you a week to a month and have a 25 year shelf life.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on October 05, 2021, 07:55:49 AMThere are lot's of camping/overland reviews on the Jackery products. Overall, the power stations are good but the solar panels aren't super robust. But, the reason I am looking at this brand or any other brand is it is something that is small and portable. You can store it in your closet or car and setup on a patio or balcony or car roof or whatever. This is for people who don't live off grid like both of you nor have the luxury of running a generator from a multi-story apartment or condo. This is for real emergencies and not just every time you have bad weather. My only concern is the long term on the batteries.

Ah, I thought you meant a bugout situation. Though, if you have a balcony, the Ryobi is quiet enough that it won't bother anyone beyond 12'.
Oh, and yeah, those are seriously crap panels, though they use them because they work in cloudy weather/diffused lighting. Though they don't produce much power.
You could but a single crystal 250 watt panel that not only charges the unit, but power to spare while running other low wattage products.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on October 05, 2021, 08:09:53 AMI was looking at more on the MRE type options. One pouch meals. Just as a last resort after your pantry food is gone. Something that will last you a week to a month and have a 25 year shelf life.

They offer those as well.  Freeze dried not dehydrated.  Toy