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General Category => Survival Tips => Topic started by: Solar on November 03, 2015, 07:40:45 AM

Title: Rancher killed by police in Adams County
Post by: Solar on November 03, 2015, 07:40:45 AM
I'd bet this wasn't just any bull, especially when one considers even a cheap bull goes for thousands, while a prize winning bull starts at 100 grand, stud services bring in 25 grand a pop, and that's just for sperm.
No, you don't simply kill ones livelihood.

COUNCIL - Idaho State Police are reporting that an officer involved shooting has left one man dead and an Adams County deputy injured.

On Sunday, November 1st at 6:45 p.m., the Adams County Sheriff's Office received a report of a motor vehicle crash involving a passenger car and a bull on US-95 at milepost 142 north of Council, Idaho.

Emergency crews arrived on scene and discovered that the driver and passenger involved in the crash needed extrication from the vehicle. However, the injured bull began charging at first responders and other vehicles creating a dangerous situation.

"The bull became aggressive," Adams County Sheriff Ryan Zollman said. "The officers went to put the bull down for safety reasons."

As deputies prepared to put down the injured bull with their firearms, the owner, identified as Jack Yantis, 62, of Council, Idaho, arrived on scene after being contacted through dispatch.

"The events that transpired over the course of the next few minutes are under investigation but, at this time, it is believed that two deputies and Mr. Yantis all fired their weapons," Idaho State Police wrote in a statement.

"The owner came down with a rifle. There's not much more I can say. It's under investigation," Zollman explained. "What I can say is both deputies involved and the owner all discharged firearms. Mr. Yantis was fatally wounded and pronounced dead at the scene."
http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/idaho-state-police-investigating-officer-involved-shooting
Title: Re: Rancher killed by police in Adams County
Post by: supsalemgr on November 03, 2015, 07:45:01 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 03, 2015, 07:40:45 AM
I'd bet this wasn't just any bull, especially when one considers even a cheap bull goes for thousands, while a prize winning bull starts at 100 grand, stud services bring in 25 grand a pop, and that's just for sperm.
No, you don't simply kill ones livelihood.

COUNCIL - Idaho State Police are reporting that an officer involved shooting has left one man dead and an Adams County deputy injured.

On Sunday, November 1st at 6:45 p.m., the Adams County Sheriff's Office received a report of a motor vehicle crash involving a passenger car and a bull on US-95 at milepost 142 north of Council, Idaho.

Emergency crews arrived on scene and discovered that the driver and passenger involved in the crash needed extrication from the vehicle. However, the injured bull began charging at first responders and other vehicles creating a dangerous situation.

"The bull became aggressive," Adams County Sheriff Ryan Zollman said. "The officers went to put the bull down for safety reasons."

As deputies prepared to put down the injured bull with their firearms, the owner, identified as Jack Yantis, 62, of Council, Idaho, arrived on scene after being contacted through dispatch.

"The events that transpired over the course of the next few minutes are under investigation but, at this time, it is believed that two deputies and Mr. Yantis all fired their weapons," Idaho State Police wrote in a statement.

"The owner came down with a rifle. There's not much more I can say. It's under investigation," Zollman explained. "What I can say is both deputies involved and the owner all discharged firearms. Mr. Yantis was fatally wounded and pronounced dead at the scene."
http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/idaho-state-police-investigating-officer-involved-shooting

Just out of curiosity, is Idaho a free range state?
Title: Re: Rancher killed by police in Adams County
Post by: Solar on November 03, 2015, 07:52:23 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 03, 2015, 07:45:01 AM
Just out of curiosity, is Idaho a free range state?
To a point, yes. The Fed dictates the amount of cattle a rancher can graze on Fed land.
Title: Re: Rancher killed by police in Adams County
Post by: Dori on November 03, 2015, 08:17:25 AM
My cousin and I were chased by a bull once, while out exploring the neighbors farm (without permission). When we finally noticed him, he was snorting and pawing at the ground before he gave chase.
Title: UPDATE
Post by: Solar on November 09, 2015, 08:43:50 PM
Rowdy Paradis, the Yantis' nephew, told the Statesman that Yantis had retrieved a rifle and was about to put down the agitated bull — who had a shattered leg — when one deputy came up behind him and grabbed his shoulder, spinning him around. Paradis said he did not notice any conversation between Yantis and the deputies prior to the altercation.

Paradis said that Yantis, with the rifle still in his hands and pointed at the ground, tried to regain his footing after the deputy grabbed him. He added that he is not sure whether or not the rifle discharged but conceded that it might have accidentally gone off when the deputy grabbed Jack and spun him or when the deputies began to shoot at Jack — hitting the hand holding the rifle.

Donna Yantis said she screamed at the deputies to stop as she watched her husband, who was shot in the chest and abdomen, fall to the ground. When the deputies did not move to help the rancher, even after he was on the ground, she and Paradis began to run toward him but were quickly stopped.

"And then they threatened me and my nephew ... threw us on the middle of Highway 95, searched us and handcuffed us, and wouldn't let us go take care of Jack," Donna said.

Paradis added that one deputy pointed his gun at Paradis' head. A family friend who was on scene and also tried to help Jack was handcuffed as well.

That's when Donna had a heart attack. She was eventually airlifted to a hospital in Boise were she remained on Sunday.

"There was no shootout. It was a senseless murder," Sarah, the Yantis' youngest daughter, told the Statesman.

Idaho State Police are investigating the incident.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11/09/ranchers-family-gives-chilling-account-of-events-that-led-to-him-being-fatally-shot-by-police-after-his-bull-was-hit-by-car/
Title: Re: Rancher killed by police in Adams County
Post by: BPman on November 10, 2015, 02:29:36 AM
One must remember to be objective in these matters and wait for the investigation to conclude as familial witness testimony has to be curry combed & examined extremely carefully. Perhaps there is dashboard cam footage and most importantly 3rd party testimony from the people in the car being attacked by the bull.

In the end, in a town of 800 there is no winner as there will be bad blood over this for decades. It can rip a town apart. Everyone loses.
Title: Re: Rancher killed by police in Adams County
Post by: je_freedom on December 18, 2015, 11:15:14 PM
Quote from: Dori on November 03, 2015, 08:17:25 AM
My cousin and I were chased by a bull once, while out exploring the neighbors farm (without permission). When we finally noticed him, he was snorting and pawing at the ground before he gave chase.

My dad told me that, if you're confronted by a bull, kick it in the nose.

It's painful enough to the bull to make him back up.

When he was young,
he once had to drive a bull all the way across a field that way,
so he could duck through the fence.
Title: Re: Rancher killed by police in Adams County
Post by: Solar on December 19, 2015, 05:51:00 AM
Quote from: je_freedom on December 18, 2015, 11:15:14 PM
My dad told me that, if you're confronted by a bull, kick it in the nose.

It's painful enough to the bull to make him back up.

When he was young,
he once had to drive a bull all the way across a field that way,
so he could duck through the fence.
Yes and no. From experience, that is a last resort, if you are pinned and able to get off a shot to his nose, you'll probably just piss him off more.
Best to stay the Hell away. Though I've found cows to have a far worse disposition than most bulls, especially if their calf is threatened.