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Is anyone really surprised when you see shit like this?

Our culture is in severe decay...
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/New-Jordan-Shoes-Source-of-Fighting-136147458.html

Quote from: Solar on December 24, 2011, 08:33:56 AM
Is anyone really surprised when you see shit like this?

Our culture is in severe decay...
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/New-Jordan-Shoes-Source-of-Fighting-136147458.html

And that's over a pair of shoes, what do you think it will look like when food becomes the sought after? 

Quote from: WoodBurner on December 24, 2011, 08:40:12 AM
And that's over a pair of shoes, what do you think it will look like when food becomes the sought after? 

My God, can you imagine? This is just trinkets compared to life sustenance, though to some of these idiots, you'd think they will die if they can't have a pair.

The upside, its the city, let the idiots kill each other off.

Local grocery chain is closing one of its stores. Offered the entire store at 50% discount. On the second day the store looked like someone used a  large vacuum. Spent $260 myself. After consolidating outside storage back inside due to below freezing conditions, running out of storage space in the house. Also concerned that in a bug out situation we'd have problems with it being just my wife and I.

Quote from: Possumpoint on January 28, 2012, 06:21:38 PM
Local grocery chain is closing one of its stores. Offered the entire store at 50% discount. On the second day the store looked like someone used a  large vacuum. Spent $260 myself. After consolidating outside storage back inside due to below freezing conditions, running out of storage space in the house. Also concerned that in a bug out situation we'd have problems with it being just my wife and I.

That is happening in ca as well, a Raley's store is closing after a short time in business, the city is a virtual ghost town.
The area was a booming community of roughly 500 thousand people and now its down to 15% of that.
Raley's is an old chain, the original store opened during the gold rush in my area, so its not like they were a small operation.
They too cleared the isles with reduced prices.

Get a seal a meal and seal all the food you can, we did and its been a blessing.

Quote from: Solar on January 28, 2012, 08:55:04 PM
That is happening in ca as well, a Raley's store is closing after a short time in business, the city is a virtual ghost town.
The area was a booming community of roughly 500 thousand people and now its down to 15% of that.
Raley's is an old chain, the original store opened during the gold rush in my area, so its not like they were a small operation.
They too cleared the isles with reduced prices.

Get a seal a meal and seal all the food you can, we did and its been a blessing.

We got one also about 2.5 years ago.  I have thing come out of the freezer after 1.5 years just like coming from the meat market.  We got the FoodSaver, I do everything with it. 

Quote from: walkstall on January 28, 2012, 09:06:29 PM


We got one also about 2.5 years ago.  I have thing come out of the freezer after 1.5 years just like coming from the meat market.  We got the FoodSaver, I do everything with it. 

Same here, we got the Food saver 385, been a blessing, that and two deep freezers.
ST had to clean out the freezer the other day and found all kinds of goodies we forgot about and they were just like the day we bought them.

Quote from: Solar on January 28, 2012, 09:21:13 PM
Same here, we got the Food saver 385, been a blessing, that and two deep freezers.
ST had to clean out the freezer the other day and found all kinds of goodies we forgot about and they were just like the day we bought them.

We have the V3825

I am glad to see some take this seriously.  I fear we are going to see a serious ramp up this year.  I listen carefully to Soros as he is behind a lot of this mess and has 5 currencies under his belt he has managed to collapse.  We are the big dog, the prize of all prizes for him and he has been at it now for some time and I suspect he wants this to happen soon.  Being 81 does not give him much time to see this through unless he steps it up.  Here is a link to his threats of what is coming.  Take it seriously and ramp up your preparations.

http://news.yahoo.com/soros-warns-riots-brutal-clampdowns-possible-total-economic-133218140.html

Quote from: walkstall on January 28, 2012, 09:49:33 PM

We have the V3825

I just walked into the kitchen and looked, its the V3825 also, ST was going off of memory.
I should have known better. :))

That thing works fast and thats a good thing, because when you have a lot of meat to seal, it would take hours with some of the other brands.

Quote from: Seawolf on January 29, 2012, 06:05:21 AM
I am glad to see some take this seriously.  I fear we are going to see a serious ramp up this year.  I listen carefully to Soros as he is behind a lot of this mess and has 5 currencies under his belt he has managed to collapse.  We are the big dog, the prize of all prizes for him and he has been at it now for some time and I suspect he wants this to happen soon.  Being 81 does not give him much time to see this through unless he steps it up.  Here is a link to his threats of what is coming.  Take it seriously and ramp up your preparations.

http://news.yahoo.com/soros-warns-riots-brutal-clampdowns-possible-total-economic-133218140.html

I take it all with measured skepticism, there are way more factors at play when it comes to collapsing the dollar.
It would take the entire world giving a concerted movement to find another currency to endorse when trading.
They tried it with the Euro and look how well that turned out.

I think Soros would love nothing more than to collapse our currency, but were bigger than one mans wet-dream.
But with that said, if we don't pull the economy back soon, the world will start losing faith in the dollar and move to bartering in gold and other precious metals and resources with each other, just like we did 200 hundred years ago.
I believe if we do fail, it will be a slow descent  then a sudden collapse, kind of like bending spaghetti, at some point it just snaps, but I believe the rest of the world will be in much worse shape by that time, I would watch for other economies to fail first.
Once India and some Asian economies begin to collapse, then we are closer to failure.

Just my opinion, but I think we still have a bit of time to pull out, but I'm still storing food just in case I'm wrong

You can't go wrong preparing.  Soros has a reliable history of collapsing 5 different currencies to include the British sterling.  It's best we don't take lightly this man's willingness to see this transpire.  His estimated worth is around 30 billion and not one dime was anything he was selling.  It was made on the backs of the innocent who suffered through his plan of destroying.  The web he has spun here in the US goes very deep.  Take time out some day and google all of his organizations.  It will shock you.  Look, I hope you are right and I am wrong but if the Euro collapses then buckle up because we will not escape the ripple effect of the Euro's fate.  Every bit of news I am reading has pretty much stated we aill be in for a rough ride at best.

Quote from: Seawolf on January 29, 2012, 10:55:48 AM
You can't go wrong preparing.  Soros has a reliable history of collapsing 5 different currencies to include the British sterling.  It's best we don't take lightly this man's willingness to see this transpire.  His estimated worth is around 30 billion and not one dime was anything he was selling.  It was made on the backs of the innocent who suffered through his plan of destroying.  The web he has spun here in the US goes very deep.  Take time out some day and google all of his organizations.  It will shock you.  Look, I hope you are right and I am wrong but if the Euro collapses then buckle up because we will not escape the ripple effect of the Euro's fate.  Every bit of news I am reading has pretty much stated we aill be in for a rough ride at best.

True, I have read about his connections to the commie movement and its direct connection to virtually every lib site on the web including the Dim party.
Why he is even allowed to play in the mkt is beyond me.

I don't see good things ahead, but I don't think its on the fast track like many pundits using scare tactics, many are in it for their own greedy purpose, (follow the money).
But with that said, it is only going to get worse before it gets better, how bad it gets is up to us, if someone isn't prepared, it will be Hell, but for those of us that have prepared, it will just be a really rough ride.

We still have to get more food stocked away, a lot more, I want at least two years of staples.
Fuel, we have more than a years supply, of course electricity is not an issue being totally on solar.
I think we may have to get some cattle and chickens soon and that would round things out.
I drink a gallon of milk a day and would suffer badly without it.
Seriously, that is really my one Achilles weak point, milk, its my staple...

I think we have a bit of time yet, but that time should be spent wisely stocking up since prices are only going to increase along with inflation.
I know you were able to buy a bunch of freeze dried food, that was smart, the price has since gone up nearly 30% on some items, I missed the boat on that one. Dammit!

I have 9 months worth of food, 110 gallons of water, plenty of ammo, filters for water and seeds for growing.  I don't have the ability for chickens, cattle or other type meats.  That's going to be a challenge I believe.