Successful deployment of 60 Starlink satellites confirmed

Started by Solar, June 03, 2020, 07:39:07 PM

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One could say this is a good thing for mankind.  Another step in making life on this planet "better".  But by the same token, it also shows how dependent mankind is in using the internet.  So much of our daily lives is tied in with the internet.  Think about, in the event the internet was to shut down.....  what effect would that have on our daily lives?  Our world would truely be a total mess.

There are some theorists that the event "Three Days of Darkness" refers to that event taking place.  Granted, I use the term theorist....

In making that claim, the theory indicates that the internet going off line without any type of human intervention possible.  The shutdown would be of a supernatural event.

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Quote from: drifter106 on June 03, 2020, 08:10:55 PM
One could say this is a good thing for mankind.  Another step in making life on this planet "better".  But by the same token, it also shows how dependent mankind is in using the internet.  So much of our daily lives is tied in with the internet.  Think about, in the event the internet was to shut down.....  what effect would that have on our daily lives?  Our world would truely be a total mess.

There are some theorists that the event "Three Days of Darkness" refers to that event taking place.  Granted, I use the term theorist....

In making that claim, the theory indicates that the internet going off line without any type of human intervention possible.  The shutdown would be of a supernatural event.

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Quote from: drifter106 on June 03, 2020, 08:10:55 PM
One could say this is a good thing for mankind.  Another step in making life on this planet "better".  But by the same token, it also shows how dependent mankind is in using the internet.  So much of our daily lives is tied in with the internet.  Think about, in the event the internet was to shut down.....  what effect would that have on our daily lives?  Our world would truely be a total mess.

There are some theorists that the event "Three Days of Darkness" refers to that event taking place.  Granted, I use the term theorist....

In making that claim, the theory indicates that the internet going off line without any type of human intervention possible.  The shutdown would be of a supernatural event.

Some of us grew up before all this automation, which provided me a great career. 
We actually drove places, and met people, and did real things.  Volleyball, softball, swimming...  It was fun.

It usually ended with music, sometimes dancing, and if you were lucky a cute girl became a new friend.

The point is if we wanted human interaction, especially (semi-random) group interaction, we had to get out of the house and find or make it.

It would cause natural events in this unnatural times.



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Solar

Quote from: drifter106 on June 03, 2020, 08:10:55 PM
One could say this is a good thing for mankind.  Another step in making life on this planet "better".  But by the same token, it also shows how dependent mankind is in using the internet.  So much of our daily lives is tied in with the internet.  Think about, in the event the internet was to shut down.....  what effect would that have on our daily lives?  Our world would truely be a total mess.

There are some theorists that the event "Three Days of Darkness" refers to that event taking place.  Granted, I use the term theorist....

In making that claim, the theory indicates that the internet going off line without any type of human intervention possible.  The shutdown would be of a supernatural event.
You make it sound like a bad thing socially. :lol:
Though, business has become dependent upon connectivity, half the nation would go about their lives naturally, as if nothing ever happened.
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Quote from: drifter106 on June 03, 2020, 08:10:55 PM
One could say this is a good thing for mankind.  Another step in making life on this planet "better".  But by the same token, it also shows how dependent mankind is in using the internet.  So much of our daily lives is tied in with the internet.  Think about, in the event the internet was to shut down.....  what effect would that have on our daily lives?  Our world would truely be a total mess.

There are some theorists that the event "Three Days of Darkness" refers to that event taking place.  Granted, I use the term theorist....

In making that claim, the theory indicates that the internet going off line without any type of human intervention possible.  The shutdown would be of a supernatural event.

One of my coworkers was talking about what-if-the-internet-got-shutdown a few months ago. Here's what I remember from the conversation:
You have to talk to someone face-to-face, or go through the trouble is sending a letter. Its hard to be insulting and disrespectful when you have to look someone in the eye, unless they've really pissed you off, so people might be calmer in general.
If you can't see them and you don't want to write you would have to make phone calls and listen to people's voices instead of just reading words on a screen, so when you do talk with people, you could here all those things that tell you what's in their head that doesn't end up in just the typing.
You wouldn't get the news delivered to your phone 24 hours a day, so you would be more relaxed and less angry at things you can't change.
You wouldn't have to listen to people with those crazy ideas like disbanding the cops or giving foreigners free money, so you might not know about what's going on to be angry about it. That might not be good, but gets me to my last point
So I think we would be happier, but not no what is going on. My mom used to tell me when my older brother would go out to party and I asked her if she knows what he was up to she would say "ignorance is bliss". So maybe that's what we would be feeling.
I don't like being angry but so many things make me mad.

Solar

Quote from: pbcharleson on June 09, 2020, 09:27:00 AM
One of my coworkers was talking about what-if-the-internet-got-shutdown a few months ago. Here's what I remember from the conversation:
You have to talk to someone face-to-face, or go through the trouble is sending a letter. Its hard to be insulting and disrespectful when you have to look someone in the eye, unless they've really pissed you off, so people might be calmer in general.
If you can't see them and you don't want to write you would have to make phone calls and listen to people's voices instead of just reading words on a screen, so when you do talk with people, you could here all those things that tell you what's in their head that doesn't end up in just the typing.
You wouldn't get the news delivered to your phone 24 hours a day, so you would be more relaxed and less angry at things you can't change.
You wouldn't have to listen to people with those crazy ideas like disbanding the cops or giving foreigners free money, so you might not know about what's going on to be angry about it. That might not be good, but gets me to my last point
So I think we would be happier, but not no what is going on. My mom used to tell me when my older brother would go out to party and I asked her if she knows what he was up to she would say "ignorance is bliss". So maybe that's what we would be feeling.
I don't like being angry but so many things make me mad.
Good points! That's how it used to be and people were more civil, that, and you had a lot more free time to actually talk to people in person, and if you didn't want to be bothered, you just took a walk.
Before answering machines and call waiting, the phone was considered a tool, you didn't use it unless it was absolutely necessary.

I could very easily live without the internet and be very happy all the way around.
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Quote from: Solar on June 09, 2020, 09:42:13 AM
Good points! That's how it used to be and people were more civil, that, and you had a lot more free time to actually talk to people in person, and if you didn't want to be bothered, you just took a walk.
Before answering machines and call waiting, the phone was considered a tool, you didn't use it unless it was absolutely necessary.

I could very easily live without the internet and be very happy all the way around.


I did not let answering machines or call waiting run my life  :lol:  I got the phone for my use.   The answering machine was for other.  That way I could call back if and when I liked. 
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I'm an amateur astronomer and am livid over this stunt.  It's utterly unnecessary and could ruin the night sky for all star gazers if fully implemented.  Imagine just taking your children out to the countryside just to see all the stars there are and they're  destroyed by 42,000 satellites.  Musk should be stopped from this insanity.  The internet is fine without this.  And the space junk is going to seriously interfere with necessary missile launches, possibly ICBMs too.  2000 satellites is more than enough.  We need to stop space junk in its tracks.

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Quote from: slider1 on June 09, 2020, 12:20:56 PM
I'm an amateur astronomer and am livid over this stunt.  It's utterly unnecessary and could ruin the night sky for all star gazers if fully implemented.  Imagine just taking your children out to the countryside just to see all the stars there are and they're  destroyed by 42,000 satellites.  Musk should be stopped from this insanity.  The internet is fine without this.  And the space junk is going to seriously interfere with necessary missile launches, possibly ICBMs too.  2000 satellites is more than enough.  We need to stop space junk in its tracks.
I live high in the Sierra and the stars were limitless, but 30 years later, and I could probably count all of them in 10 minutes. Light pollution from the Sacramento Valley.
I'd be happy to see satellites. :biggrin:
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Quote from: drifter106 on June 03, 2020, 08:10:55 PM


There are some theorists that the event "Three Days of Darkness" refers to that event taking place.  Granted, I use the term theorist....

In making that claim, the theory indicates that the internet going off line without any type of human intervention possible.  The shutdown would be of a supernatural event.
Now that is interesting. 
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Quote from: Solar on June 09, 2020, 02:32:55 PM
I live high in the Sierra and the stars were limitless, but 30 years later, and I could probably count all of them in 10 minutes. Light pollution from the Sacramento Valley.
I'd be happy to see satellites. :biggrin:

That's way too bad.  It has happened too much and there are a lot of easy fixes to light pollution.  But you're not going to see the satellites like stars.  They'll just ruin your view of the stars Through a telescope by blocking their light and ruin your photographs of nebula with odd streaks.  Not to mention contribute greatLy to the space junk problem. 

If you want to see stars near where you are, head up to northeast California near Goose Lake.  Very dark up there.

There's a star party I want to attend out there every year.

Solar

Quote from: slider1 on June 12, 2020, 12:29:12 PM
That's way too bad.  It has happened too much and there are a lot of easy fixes to light pollution.  But you're not going to see the satellites like stars.  They'll just ruin your view of the stars Through a telescope by blocking their light and ruin your photographs of nebula with odd streaks.  Not to mention contribute greatLy to the space junk problem. 

If you want to see stars near where you are, head up to northeast California near Goose Lake.  Very dark up there.

There's a star party I want to attend out there every year.
Yeah, it wasn't all that long ago I could watch the shuttle fly over, even remember watching Sputnik cross the sky.
There is a movement underway to change the lights on the ground, but I agree, the more crap we put up there the worse is going to get. There should be a law, that after end of life, they are pushed towards the sun. :biggrin:
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I just ordered our Starlink satellite. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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https://www.starlink.com/

Sweet, cable speed, compared to a tricked out modem. :lol:


Starlink is now available in limited supply in your service area.

During beta, users can expect to see data speeds vary from 50Mb/s to 150Mb/s and latency from 20ms to 40ms in most locations over the next several months as we enhance the Starlink system. There will also be brief periods of no connectivity at all.

As we launch more satellites, install more ground stations and improve our networking software, data speed, latency and uptime will improve dramatically. For latency, we expect to achieve 16ms to 19ms by summer 2021. 

To check availability for your location, visit Starlink.com and re-enter your email and service address. If available, you will be immediately redirected to the Starlink order page.

Availability is limited so orders must be completed within 15 minutes of landing on the order page. If you are not able to order at this time, the Starlink team will continue to send updates as more capacity becomes available.

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