Climate Change & a rogue scientist

Started by Hoofer, October 15, 2015, 02:35:22 PM

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Hoofer

He's not on the plantation - probably because he doesn't need government funding.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/13/top-physicist-freeman-dyson-obama-picked-wrong-side-climate-change/

QuoteIn an interview with Andrew Orlowski of The Register, Dyson expressed his despair at the current scientific obsession with climate change which he says is "not a scientific mystery but a human mystery. How does it happen that a whole generation of scientific experts is blind to the obvious facts."

This mystery, says Dyson, can only partly be explained in terms of follow the money. Also to blame, he believes, is a kind of collective yearning for apocalyptic doom.

It is true that there's a large community of people who make their money by scaring the public, so money is certainly involved to some extent, but I don't think that's the full explanation.

It's like a hundred years ago, before World War I, there was this insane craving for doom, which in a way, helped cause World War I. People like the poet Rupert Brooke were glorifying war as an escape from the dullness of modern life. [There was] the feeling we'd gone soft and degenerate, and war would be good for us all. That was in the air leading up to World War I, and in some ways it's in the air today.

Dyson, himself a longstanding Democrat voter, is especially disappointed by his chosen party's unscientific stance on the climate change issue.

It's very sad that in this country, political opinion parted [people's views on climate change]. I'm 100 per cent Democrat myself, and I like Obama. But he took the wrong side on this issue, and the Republicans took the right side.

Part of the problem, he says, is the Democrats' conflation of "pollution" (a genuine problem) with "climate change" (a natural phenomenon quite beyond mankind's ability to control). 


Very interesting observation, the doom & gloom stuff.  While I'm studying WW1, and trying to figure out what, how, why people got swept into it...  come to think of it, I shudder to realize similar mindset(s) exist today!
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Dori

Ever hear of Piers Corbyn?  He's a weather forecaster in the UK.

WeatherAction is involved in the Global Warming/Climate Change debate where we point out that the world is now cooling not warming and there is no observational evidence in the thousands and millions of years of data that changes in CO2 have any observable effect on weather or climate in the real world. There are no scientists in the world who can produce such observational data and we challenge anyone reading this to send us such observational evidence from the real world or find someone who can and get them to produce it. There is only effect the other way, namely that ocean temperatures control average CO2 levels due to basic laws of physics about the soluability of CO2 gas in (sea) water.

http://www.weatheraction.com/
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Hoofer

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SalemCat

Quote from: Dori on October 15, 2015, 03:32:43 PM
Ever hear of Piers Corbyn?  He's a weather forecaster in the UK.

WeatherAction is involved in the Global Warming/Climate Change debate where we point out that the world is now cooling not warming and there is no observational evidence in the thousands and millions of years of data that changes in CO2 have any observable effect on weather or climate in the real world. There are no scientists in the world who can produce such observational data and we challenge anyone reading this to send us such observational evidence from the real world or find someone who can and get them to produce it. There is only effect the other way, namely that ocean temperatures control average CO2 levels due to basic laws of physics about the soluability of CO2 gas in (sea) water.

http://www.weatheraction.com/

Honestly. Global Warming is a GOOD THING.

Ice ages - BAD.


Dori

Quote from: SalemCat on December 21, 2015, 07:59:10 PM
Honestly. Global Warming is a GOOD THING.

Ice ages - BAD.

There's a new NASA climate report that says burning of fossil fuels and cutting down trees actually causes global cooling.... :laugh:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/628524/Climate-change-shock-Burning-fossil-fuels-COOLs-planet-says-NASA

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Solar

Quote from: Dori on December 22, 2015, 07:47:38 AM
There's a new NASA climate report that says burning of fossil fuels and cutting down trees actually causes global cooling.... :laugh:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/628524/Climate-change-shock-Burning-fossil-fuels-COOLs-planet-says-NASA
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

They actually think they can hedge their bets after claiming the opposite in the face of reality.
They know we're heading towards a Maunder Minimum, and are trying to get out ahead of it by claiming the exact opposite of what they've claimed over the last 30+ years.
Ohhh the irony. But the really sad part? The LIV will buy the newly found lies.
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walkstall

Quote from: Solar on December 22, 2015, 09:36:50 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

They actually think they can hedge their bets after claiming the opposite in the face of reality.
They know we're heading towards a Maunder Minimum, and are trying to get out ahead of it by claiming the exact opposite of what they've claimed over the last 30+ years.
Ohhh the irony. But the really sad part? The LIV will buy the newly found lies.

They must have got a phone call for the WH about funding for next year. 
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