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General Category => Science and Technology => Topic started by: taxed on January 23, 2016, 06:00:27 AM

Title: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: taxed on January 23, 2016, 06:00:27 AM
Intrigued.  I guess he's (they're) building it off Chromium releases, revolutionizing the way we see and interact with ads on the web.

Good job Mozilla! I take back everything I said about liberals not being good for innovation.  In this case, their liberal brains thought it would be a good idea to get rid of Eich who invented the language the entire web uses, where he left and created this brilliant new venture that will make him truckloads of money and employ who knows how many others.

I bet anyone with any stake in Mozilla is just thrilled!

http://www.zdnet.com/article/brave-new-browser-eich-returns-with-chromium-browser-that-replaces-ads/

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Gal said it was ironic Brave was a for-profit operation that can make money from reducing advertising.

"If Brave succeeds, it's going to drain money away from the crappy privacy-invasive obnoxious advertisement world we have today, and publishers and sites will start transacting in the new Brave world that is regulated by the user agent," he said. "Brave will take a cut of these transactions. And I think this is key. It aligns the incentives right."

"The current funding structure of major browsers encourages them to keep things as they are. Brave's incentive is to bring down the whole diseased temple and usher in a better web."
Title: Re: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: tac on January 23, 2016, 06:31:31 AM
Unfortunately there will still be obnoxious ads, but just the ads he gets paid for. But it is a good idea, one whose time has come. I'll continue to use AdBlock on any browser.
Title: Re: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: taxed on January 23, 2016, 06:37:14 AM
Quote from: tac on January 23, 2016, 06:31:31 AM
Unfortunately there will still be obnoxious ads, but just the ads he gets paid for. But it is a good idea, one whose time has come. I'll continue to use AdBlock on any browser.

I think they're off the page though and moved to the browser.  I can't quite think about how it will look though.
Title: Re: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: tac on January 23, 2016, 07:09:29 AM
I'll have to give it a try, once they release the final version.
Title: Re: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: walkstall on January 23, 2016, 07:27:33 AM
Quote from: tac on January 23, 2016, 07:09:29 AM
I'll have to give it a try, once they release the final version.

Is there ever a final version?   :lol:
Title: Re: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: Solar on January 23, 2016, 07:49:05 AM
Innovative.
"Speaking on Hacker News, Eich said that Brave is working on a micro-payments channel to users who would pay to see no ads."
Title: Re: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: tac on January 23, 2016, 07:51:50 AM
Quote from: walkstall on January 23, 2016, 07:27:33 AM
Is there ever a final version?   :lol:

Yup. The last one you use before you kick the bucket. :lol:
Title: Re: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: Hoofer on January 23, 2016, 08:20:42 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 23, 2016, 07:49:05 AM
Innovative.
"Speaking on Hacker News, Eich said that Brave is working on a micro-payments channel to users who would pay to see no ads."

was just getting ready to post that line...
If a guy has LIMITED web access, or poor bandwidth (like me) it might be worth it.
Title: Re: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: Solar on January 23, 2016, 08:32:24 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on January 23, 2016, 08:20:42 AM
was just getting ready to post that line...
If a guy has LIMITED web access, or poor bandwidth (like me) it might be worth it.
Exactly! Even pop up blockers slow you up because they have to recheck as you load the page.
Title: Re: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: Hoofer on January 23, 2016, 12:30:53 PM
Quote from: Solar on January 23, 2016, 08:32:24 AM
Exactly! Even pop up blockers slow you up because they have to recheck as you load the page.

Right now, my cell phone tethering is faster than a 10meg internet via Centurystink... totally sucked, and bumped our phone bill from $51mo to $130mo for $19.99 advertized service.  They automatically added all the premium land-line services, a bundled package, and after a month or so, throttled us.

no thanks!  we dropped 'em.

When the browser comes out, I'll try it... much as I detest Google, I'll try it.
Title: Re: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: taxed on January 24, 2016, 10:19:05 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on January 23, 2016, 12:30:53 PM
Right now, my cell phone tethering is faster than a 10meg internet via Centurystink... totally sucked, and bumped our phone bill from $51mo to $130mo for $19.99 advertized service.  They automatically added all the premium land-line services, a bundled package, and after a month or so, throttled us.

no thanks!  we dropped 'em.

When the browser comes out, I'll try it... much as I detest Google, I'll try it.

This isn't a Google product.
Title: Re: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: Hoofer on January 24, 2016, 01:34:45 PM
Quote from: taxed on January 24, 2016, 10:19:05 AM
This isn't a Google product. 

Funny, I thought it was based on the same code...?
Title: Re: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: taxed on January 24, 2016, 03:52:05 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on January 24, 2016, 01:34:45 PM
Funny, I thought it was based on the same code...?

They're using Chromium, which is open source and available to all.  Chrome is built on Chromium.   I didn't mean to say "Google Chromium" releases in the OP. 
Title: Re: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: ZQuickSilverZ on January 25, 2016, 12:34:20 AM
I thought I read somewhere that Firefox was actually a renamed Netscape Navigator.

If so and these are the same designers then they have decades of experience making browsers.

Title: Re: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: ZQuickSilverZ on January 25, 2016, 12:37:17 AM
If you ask me targeted advertising should be illegal. Talk about an invasion of privacy. I would actually LOVE to see some lawsuits over targeted advertising.
Title: Re: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: Solar on January 25, 2016, 04:24:48 AM
Quote from: ZQuickSilverZ on January 25, 2016, 12:37:17 AM
If you ask me targeted advertising should be illegal. Talk about an invasion of privacy. I would actually LOVE to see some lawsuits over targeted advertising.
All media is target market advertising.
Title: Re: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: daidalos on January 25, 2016, 08:33:48 PM
I'd pay damn good money for a browser that will get rid of ads, yet still keep the internet functional for ya. Allowing you to say, see a news article, but block all the pro-liberal ads like over at the N.Y. Slimes for example.

As for data mining, which is HOW they target market you. Look no further than Mr. Zuckerberg and Facebook.

Yep he sells the information Facebook is able to glean about you. To Companies who then target you with their ads.

Don't ya just love the liberals at work now?
Title: Re: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: ZQuickSilverZ on January 25, 2016, 09:06:24 PM
Quote from: Solar on January 25, 2016, 04:24:48 AMAll media is target market advertising.

All media does not track your "window shopping" then blitz you with advertising banners for the next month on completely unrelated sites.

How many times have you gone to Facebook only to see a banner advertising something you were looking to purchase yesterday? I see it all the time.

There is a difference between targeting a market and targeting an individual based on his internet traffic.
Title: Re: Brenden Eich creating new browser
Post by: Hoofer on January 26, 2016, 09:42:28 AM
Quote from: ZQuickSilverZ on January 25, 2016, 09:06:24 PM
All media does not track your "window shopping" then blitz you with advertising banners for the next month on completely unrelated sites.

How many times have you gone to Facebook only to see a banner advertising something you were looking to purchase yesterday? I see it all the time.

There is a difference between targeting a market and targeting an individual based on his internet traffic.

Which really sucks when you share a computer with 5 daughters and a wife...   The crap they search for defies male logic - but I still love 'em.