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Some MX politician said MX would pay for the wall .... built along the 1830 border. LOL.
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Also, they call themselves "no kings", yet they are the ones who act all high-n-mighty.
#73
War Forum / Re: Ukraine Russia conflict
Last post by patentlymn - June 11, 2025, 03:19:08 PM

This guy is a prof in Norway. Direct attempts to fire him for views on Ukraine failed. Here he goes into censorship as he has before. Now he says they have obtained every bit of his word and notes so they can fire him for alleged errors or plagiarism. German profs have been fired this way.

https://youtu.be/L0eXB38qAPo
Ulrike Guérot: Censorship, Cancellation & Death of Democracy in Europe
 
 
Jun 11, 2025
Ulrike Guérot is one of the leading German political scientists and experts on Europe. Guérot outlines how European academia began to change after the global financial crisis (2008-09) as the crisis resulted in reduced acceptance for criticism and the narrowing of acceptable debate. Following her criticism of the Covid policies, Guérot discovered that she was increasingly met with personal attacks rather than counter-arguments. When she questioned the narrative of an "unprovoked" Russian invasion of Ukraine she was suddenly accused of taking the side of Russia, a vicious smear campaign began, colleagues and friends turned against her, and a search to discover anything that could be interpreted as "academic dishonesty" eventually led to being fired from the university. The story about how one of Germany's leading academics could be cancelled tells a wider story about the decline of academic freedom, the efforts to crush all dissent, and the revival of European authoritarianism. 


https://glenndiesen.substack.com/p/how-peace-oriented-norway-learned
How Peace-Oriented Norway Learned to Stop Worrying and Love War
Prof. Glenn Diesen
Glenn Diesen
May 26, 2025
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Almost every media outlet in the country framed the issue on the premise that I am "pro-Russian" and "anti-Ukrainian". People began tearing down the posters, and some compared their political vandalism with liberating the country from Hitler during the Second World War. People were intoxicated with self-righteousness and moral superiority as the tribe united in virtue and the fight for freedom. Their hatred of the evil "other" was celebrated as evidence of their righteousness as they formed a resistance against us, fascist agents of Russia who support the destruction of Ukraine and would like to see Russia conquer Europe.
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The Norwegian is taught to express empathy for Afghans when it justifies occupation, Syrians when it justifies regime change, Libyans when it justifies military intervention, etc. However, once the strategic objective is achieved, there is no attention or empathy expressed. As we leave behind death and destruction, there is no remorse, as our alleged intentions were good. In Ukraine, the Norwegian is taught to have great empathy when it comes to advancing the war efforts. In contrast, the Norwegian will react with suspicion and anger if anyone mentions the suffering of the people in Donbas over the past decade, "military recruiters" dragging people off the streets and out of their homes, the attacks on the media, the denial of political rights, language rights, cultural rights or religious rights. The empathy for Ukrainians is instrumental, it is evoked or suppressed based on the purpose it serves.
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#74
War Forum / Re: Ukraine Russia conflict
Last post by patentlymn - June 11, 2025, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 11, 2025, 01:04:31 PMMeaning?

I mean his plan was implemented in Ukraine. Western tech and Ukrainian body bags. When people in the US boast of what a 'good investment' this is with US money but not US body bags I want to barf at how ghoulish this is. Maybe 1.M Ukrainian sod=soldiers dead.

Soros did not put a fine point on this. IMO his 'open societies' do have a dogma which is globalism and ignoring what their own people want. These open societies have shut down commerce, transportation, and communication with Russia and others. I think the 'closed societies' are closed to being sold to Blackrock so they are hated. Their nationalism means the people are put ahead of the investor class.


https://x.com/Glenn_Diesen/status/1749360235330896014
George Soros wrote in 1993 that NATO should partner with Eastern European proxies to "reduce the risk of body bags for NATO countries":
- "the combination of manpower from Eastern Europe with the technical capabilities of NATO would greatly enhance the military potential of the Partnership because it would reduce the risk of body bags for NATO countries, which is the main constraint on their willingness to act"

https://www.georgesoros.com/1993/11/01/toward-a-new-world-order-the-future-of-nato/
Toward a New World Order: The Future of NATO
Open Society Foundations, November 1, 1993
The Coming World Disorder
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I contend that it is very useful to draw a distinction between open and closed societies. The distinction is based on the same philosophical foundations as my theory of history, namely, that participants act on the basis of imperfect understanding. Open society is based on the recognition of this principle and closed society on its denial. In a closed society, there is an authority which is the dispenser of the ultimate truth; open society does not recognize such authority even if it recognizes the rule of law and the sovereignty of the state. The state is not based on a dogma and society is not dominated by the state. The government is elected by the people and it can be changed. Above all, there is respect for minorities and minority opinions.
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Closed societies based on nationalist principles constitute a threat to security because they need an enemy, either outside or within.
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The United States would not be called upon to act as the policeman of the world. When it acts, it would act in conjunction with others. Incidentally, the combination of manpower from Eastern Europe with the technical capabilities of NATO would greatly enhance the military potential of the Partnership because it would reduce the risk of body bags for NATO countries, which is the main constraint on their willingness to act. This is a viable alternative to the looming world disorder.
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Political Discussion and Debate / Re: Protests Coming to a Town ...
Last post by Solar - June 11, 2025, 01:13:20 PM
Quote from: Rick on June 11, 2025, 12:45:33 PMJeeezzz that's a list.

They even have freeway overcrossings listed?  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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War Forum / Re: Ukraine Russia conflict
Last post by Solar - June 11, 2025, 01:04:31 PM
Quote from: patentlymn on June 11, 2025, 10:46:49 AMThere is some Soros paper maybe in 1993. He proposed using western tech and eastern european manpower  to reduce NATO body bags.
Meaning?
#77
Don't forget to check out the map in the first post.  It is really disturbing.  Toy
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Political Discussion and Debate / Re: Post Your Favorite Politic...
Last post by Rick - June 11, 2025, 12:52:01 PM
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Political Discussion and Debate / Re: Protests Coming to a Town ...
Last post by Rick - June 11, 2025, 12:45:33 PM
Jeeezzz that's a list.