Quote from: patentlymn on Today at 03:05:04 PMI am no fan of Islam or Iran but they have shown great restraint given recent Israel assassinations and attacks in the region. .  Israel wants to be the only substantial military power remaining in the region. This requires US help in creating chaos in the region.

I think Saudi Arabia might take issue with that claim.

Truth is, Europe was the first to make a mess with the whole of the M/E, followed by the US and our CIA.
I see us as the enemy in the M/E, how we've been pitting enemies against one another to keep a constant imbalance in the region.
For decades, the Military Industrial Complex has had an endless supply of customers, and when one dried up, the CIA was there to support the highest bidder to keep the game going.

The way I see it, over the last 40+ years, we have been the instigators of war in the M/E and Trump is about to bring an end to all of it.

Quote from: Solar on Today at 02:46:50 PMAgree. I once read that the US and Israel have thousands of spies embedded in every aspect of the Iranian government.
It's no surprise to see Iran hit with such precision, only to see such a weak response in return.
I remember seeing life in Iran change overnight, to that of a slave community, the people remember it as well and want it back.

this isn't meant as a joke, but I bet China has hundreds of spies in the democrat party. There will probably be more democrats sorry to see Wi go than Chinese.

Quote from: Solar on Today at 02:32:49 PMAs a pragmatist, I hate all war, but the realist in me knows evil when I see it, and the Iranian leadership is pure evil and must be destroyed.
Now ask yourself, would you rather have Trump in office during this time, or allies of Lyndsey Graham in charge?
Trump is the only leader who can bring this to an end, even Iran knows this, because he keeps his word.

Remember when these zealots took over our embassy? Nothing happened under the weak Carter, but the moment Reagan was sworn in, Iran capitulated. Iran knows what real leadership looks like; they also know Trump is accepted as the world's leader by all Nations on the planet. This war will be over within two weeks. There will be peace...

I am no fan of Islam or Iran but they have shown great restraint given recent Israel assassinations and attacks in the region. .  Israel wants to be the only substantial military power remaining in the region. This requires US help in creating chaos in the region.

Here is a book I read. I left understanding what China was not. I was still confused.
 
The Party (McGregor)  This book is dated as there was very little censorship or tight control then. Mostly self censorship for career advancement.  Here was my first take away.  The CCP is like the Elks Club. You apply, if accepted, you start at the bottom. You work your way up. You serve on committees and do jobs, suck up, do not screw up then move up. A combination of elections and selections.  1 of every 13 people are party members.

The  party  is not the govt but a shadow govt. The army reports to the party, not the govt.  Every organization over 50 people must have a party member.   Very large organization must have a dedicate red phone  to party HQ they must answer in those land line days. Party can veto any business decision.

Some graft is OK. If too much you might get a bullet to the head. The party is very responsive to the will of the people.

Pres Xi had a father high up in the party but was exiled to the country by Mao's purges. Xi lived in  cave house. His sister killed herself.

In order to move high up you must serve as governor of rural provinces and also big cities and not screw up. Below is the work history of Xi. Compare to the history of US presidents.

Quote from: Possum on Today at 02:40:53 PMEvery leader in Iran, from the most powerful to those who have less, know Israel can take them out anytime they want. There must be hundreds of Iranians feeding information to Israelis in order to track down the evil ones with such precision.

Looking back over Trump's statements over the past couple of weeks, he played Iran like a finely tuned fiddle. They never saw what was coming. And the democrats got played even worse.

Agree. I once read that the US and Israel have thousands of spies embedded in every aspect of the Iranian government.
It's no surprise to see Iran hit with such precision, only to see such a weak response in return.
I remember seeing life in Iran change overnight, to that of a slave community, the people remember it as well and want it back.

Quote from: Solar on Today at 02:32:49 PMAs a pragmatist, I hate all war, but the realist in me knows evil when I see it, and the Iranian leadership is pure evil and must be destroyed.
Now ask yourself, would you rather have Trump in office during this time, or allies of Lyndsey Graham in charge?
Trump is the only leader who can bring this to an end, even Iran knows this, because he keeps his word.

Remember when these zealots took over our embassy? Nothing happened under the weak Carter, but the moment Reagan was sworn in, Iran capitulated. Iran knows what real leadership looks like; they also know Trump is accepted as the world's leader by all Nations on the planet. This war will be over within two weeks. There will be peace...

Every leader in Iran, from the most powerful to those who have less, know Israel can take them out anytime they want. There must be hundreds of Iranians feeding information to Israelis in order to track down the evil ones with such precision.

Looking back over Trump's statements over the past couple of weeks, he played Iran like a finely tuned fiddle. They never saw what was coming. And the democrats got played even worse.

Quote from: patentlymn on Today at 02:13:52 PMWhy is Xi being pushed out? Who is next?
IMO this the CCP and the standing committee is a modern version of a  Chinese imperial court.

Communist "Leadership" is all a facade, Xi was a puppet face for the world to see, but when the puppet strays from the Party's wishes/directives and believes he has power he doesn't, he's removed by hook or crook.

Trump tried to save him by claiming Xi was the leader who could get things done, but the party would have no part of that deal.

Remember, you can vote your way into Communism, but you'll have to fight your way out. We're not dealing with rational people here.

As a pragmatist, I hate all war, but the realist in me knows evil when I see it, and the Iranian leadership is pure evil and must be destroyed.
Now ask yourself, would you rather have Trump in office during this time, or allies of Lyndsey Graham in charge?
Trump is the only leader who can bring this to an end, even Iran knows this, because he keeps his word.

Remember when these zealots took over our embassy? Nothing happened under the weak Carter, but the moment Reagan was sworn in, Iran capitulated. Iran knows what real leadership looks like; they also know Trump is accepted as the world's leader by all Nations on the planet. This war will be over within two weeks. There will be peace...

Why is Xi being pushed out? Who is next?
IMO this the CCP and the standing committee is a modern version of a  Chinese imperial court.

Quote from: patentlymn on Today at 01:58:24 PMI have not followed this in detail. I think that Iran was open to limiting enrichment to 3.7 % and inspections.  Israel demands removing all enrichment equipment, and stopping all support for enemies of Israel in the region. Maybe removing their ballistic missiles?  There are civilian uses for the 3.7% uranium

IMO Israel wants war on Iran and wants the US to do this. Israel may call out for US help after Iran retaliates.

Israel smuggled in small drones ahead of time and used them to take out the Iranian air defense.

Some analysis on judge Nap. These guys were not anti Trump at the time of his election win.

https://youtu.be/Vp91gF8mMvM

 
INTEL Roundtable w/ Johnson & McGovern : Weekly Wrap 12-June  28 min.


Alex is a good daily news aggregator. He seems  depressed over Trump not being anti war. He says this Israel attack was mostly a decapitation attack.
https://youtu.be/qddwPeU5Ow4?list=TLPQMTMwNjIwMjWc5r0ozo-ZrA
Alex Christoforou
Iran regime change. Trump, more war coming. Rubio unilateral strike. Bibi in Greece? Oil price jumps 34 min.

Wilkerson is very knowledgeable.
https://youtu.be/0oGP6bj1F8Q?list=TLPQMTMwNjIwMjWc5r0ozo-ZrA
COL. Lawrence Wilkerson : Foreign Policy in Chaos. 21 min.

Do you know the difference between enrichment and highly enriched? Trump warned the Ayatollah that they would be bombed back to the Stone Age if they didn't give up their enrichment program, yet they kept saying they had a right to do so.
When Iran refused, Trump said there would be a regime change and Israel would make it happen.

That was just the first softening of the target; it will intensify as weeks go by, or until Iran concedes.. 
Remember, this is not just about Israel, Hezbollah, Houthi Etc. and all their factions have sleeper cells across the globe.
If they aren't stopped today, their terrorist threats won't be limited to the M/E.

Oh, and Judge Nap is an Idiot! That's why he no longer gets airtime.