COVID-19, known as WUFLU

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Coronavirus can survive long exposure to high temperature, a threat to lab staff around world: paper


The new coronavirus can survive long exposure to high temperatures, according to an experiment by a team of French scientists.
Professor Remi Charrel and colleagues at the Aix-Marseille University in southern France heated the virus that causes Covid-19 to 60 degrees Celsius (140 Fahrenheit) for an hour and found that some strains were still able to replicate.
The scientists had to bring the temperature to almost boiling point to kill the virus completely, according to their non-peer-reviewed paper released on bioRxiv.org on Saturday. The results have implications for the safety of lab technicians working with the virus.
The team in France infected African green monkey kidney cells, a standard host material for viral activity tests, with a strain isolated from a patient in Berlin, Germany. The cells were loaded into tubes representing two different types of environments, one "clean" and the other "dirty" with animal proteins to simulate biological contamination in real-life samples, such as an oral swab.
After the heating, the viral strains in the clean environment were thoroughly deactivated. Some strains in the dirty samples, however, survived.

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Quote from: Possum on April 14, 2020, 01:45:13 PM
Hope everyone can read that chart.  :popcorn:
But, but, but it's no worse than the flu, anyway, according to Ldub :rolleyes:
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Quote from: Possum on April 14, 2020, 01:45:13 PM
Hope everyone can read that chart.  :popcorn:

Use CTRL and + it will make the print bigger if needed.
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I think that  qualifies as  number  padding. "Presumed"? And  it states rather  clearly there  was  NO positive test.

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A leading cause of death in the United States: Several weeks ago, coronavirus deaths were few in comparison with other causes. But last week, reported U.S. Covid-19 deaths were just shy of the normal rate from heart disease, usually the leading cause of death.
More than all typical deaths in New York: Strikingly, in the state of New York, the number of people who died with coronavirus last week was more than any other cause of death — in fact, more than twice the average number who die in a week from all causes combined.
In the worst week of the 2017-18 flu season, New York saw 218 deaths from flu and pneumonia and 2,098 total from all causes. Last week, the state saw 4,694 reported Covid-19 deaths alone. These figures must put to rest the "dying with but not of" line of skepticism. The idea that this many people would have died anyway even without Covid-19 is simply not credible.
Any serious attempt to put coronavirus deaths in context by comparing it to some other cause of death in a previous year must acknowledge the marked differences in the Covid-19 trend — most notably, the rapid spike in deaths that is still underway, and the wide range of uncertainty about when it will peak, how high it will peak, and whether it will peak only once. As long as the pandemic is rapidly spreading, these comparisons will be fraught.
Perhaps a better way to state the danger posed by the coronavirus is just that we cannot easily compare it to any precedent in recent history. Nor do we need to dispute projections about future deaths to recognize what has happened already. Amid the statistical noise is a powerful signal. The question is whether we choose to see it.

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Quote from: Prospector on April 15, 2020, 01:49:54 PM
A leading cause of death in the United States: Several weeks ago, coronavirus deaths were few in comparison with other causes. But last week, reported U.S. Covid-19 deaths were just shy of the normal rate from heart disease, usually the leading cause of death.
More than all typical deaths in New York: Strikingly, in the state of New York, the number of people who died with coronavirus last week was more than any other cause of death — in fact, more than twice the average number who die in a week from all causes combined.
In the worst week of the 2017-18 flu season, New York saw 218 deaths from flu and pneumonia and 2,098 total from all causes. Last week, the state saw 4,694 reported Covid-19 deaths alone. These figures must put to rest the "dying with but not of" line of skepticism. The idea that this many people would have died anyway even without Covid-19 is simply not credible.
Any serious attempt to put coronavirus deaths in context by comparing it to some other cause of death in a previous year must acknowledge the marked differences in the Covid-19 trend — most notably, the rapid spike in deaths that is still underway, and the wide range of uncertainty about when it will peak, how high it will peak, and whether it will peak only once. As long as the pandemic is rapidly spreading, these comparisons will be fraught.
Perhaps a better way to state the danger posed by the coronavirus is just that we cannot easily compare it to any precedent in recent history. Nor do we need to dispute projections about future deaths to recognize what has happened already. Amid the statistical noise is a powerful signal. The question is whether we choose to see it.
I don't disagree with your post, just wanted to add a caveat.

A coroner friend of mine once told me that almost all "Causes of Death" are mere guesses, since less than 0.1% of deaths actually under go autopsy.
He said most cases are due to family members guessing the cause of death. He also said all heart death claims are bogus, since the last thing to stop working is the heart, the coroner usually states the cause of death as heart failure.
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Quote from: Prospector on April 15, 2020, 01:49:54 PM
A leading cause of death in the United States: Several weeks ago, coronavirus deaths were few in comparison with other causes. But last week, reported U.S. Covid-19 deaths were just shy of the normal rate from heart disease, usually the leading cause of death.
More than all typical deaths in New York: Strikingly, in the state of New York, the number of people who died with coronavirus last week was more than any other cause of death — in fact, more than twice the average number who die in a week from all causes combined.
In the worst week of the 2017-18 flu season, New York saw 218 deaths from flu and pneumonia and 2,098 total from all causes. Last week, the state saw 4,694 reported Covid-19 deaths alone. These figures must put to rest the "dying with but not of" line of skepticism. The idea that this many people would have died anyway even without Covid-19 is simply not credible.
Any serious attempt to put coronavirus deaths in context by comparing it to some other cause of death in a previous year must acknowledge the marked differences in the Covid-19 trend — most notably, the rapid spike in deaths that is still underway, and the wide range of uncertainty about when it will peak, how high it will peak, and whether it will peak only once. As long as the pandemic is rapidly spreading, these comparisons will be fraught.
Perhaps a better way to state the danger posed by the coronavirus is just that we cannot easily compare it to any precedent in recent history. Nor do we need to dispute projections about future deaths to recognize what has happened already. Amid the statistical noise is a powerful signal. The question is whether we choose to see it.
The Democrats have a vested interest in keeping our nation as chaotic as possible going into the 2020 Election.  Rather telling that the Dem Governors went to extremes with the lock down.

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Quote from: shhh on April 16, 2020, 02:41:25 AM
The Democrats have a vested interest in keeping our nation as chaotic as possible going into the 2020 Election.  Rather telling that the Dem Governors went to extremes with the lock down.

Its  up to Trump to make that a campaign issue. Open up and  blame  democrats when they stay closed.

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Bongino's show today: China restricted travel from Wuhan to other parts of China, but didn't restrict travel from Wuhan to other countries????  WTF?

I wish I were a fly on the wall when Trump learned this.
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Quote from: taxed on April 16, 2020, 05:13:51 PM
Bongino's show today: China restricted travel from Wuhan to other parts of China, but didn't restrict travel from Wuhan to other countries????  WTF?

I wish I were a fly on the wall when Trump learned this.
The moment I saw what China was doing, I wondered if Trump got on the phone to all of our allies and said, "Don't let them in"!!!
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