Quote from: ldub23 on April 12, 2020, 03:26:30 PM
Come on, you cant be  that  obtuse. Trump issued  guidelines saying there should  NOT be gathering  of  10 or  more  people and that  NO ONE should  visit  a  restaurant  or  bar. The  governors are taking those  guidelines and running  with them to an extreme and  i have  yet to hear trump criticise any of  it. And  you  may not care if fauci continues to advise trump. I do. Fuaci isnt hurt  by any amount  of  misery  he  causes.

Where did he shut things down and ban products, like in Michigan?

Quote from: taxed on April 12, 2020, 03:29:41 PM
Where did he shut things down and ban products, like in Michigan?

As  i said the  governors ran with what  he said. He  is a grown man and  if  he wants to be re-elected and  if  he  disagrees with Whitmer he  can call her  out  any time  he wants.

I  mentioned  something  about the  supply chain shutting  down. This  might  be the  beginning,

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/top-pork-producer-shuts-key-173657598.html

"The closure of this facility, combined with a growing list of other protein plants that have shuttered across our industry, is pushing our country perilously close to the edge in terms of our meat supply," Smithfield's Chief Executive Officer Ken Sullivan said in the statement. "It is impossible to keep our grocery stores stocked if our plants are not running."

While it's unclear whether the meat-employee infections have anything to do with the workplaces, the news exposes the vulnerability of global supply chains that are needed to keep grocers stocked after panic buying left shelves empty. The shuttered plants and sick workers are adding to other disruptions caused by the virus that's making it harder for food to get from farm to table. Trucking bottlenecks, and snarled port traffic have also contributed to why shoppers are seeing empty shelves."

Its  not  going to take  much more  of this to bring everything to a screeching  halt.

Quote from: ldub23 on April 13, 2020, 03:46:12 AM
I  mentioned  something  about the  supply chain shutting  down. This  might  be the  beginning,

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/top-pork-producer-shuts-key-173657598.html

"The closure of this facility, combined with a growing list of other protein plants that have shuttered across our industry, is pushing our country perilously close to the edge in terms of our meat supply," Smithfield's Chief Executive Officer Ken Sullivan said in the statement. "It is impossible to keep our grocery stores stocked if our plants are not running."

While it's unclear whether the meat-employee infections have anything to do with the workplaces, the news exposes the vulnerability of global supply chains that are needed to keep grocers stocked after panic buying left shelves empty. The shuttered plants and sick workers are adding to other disruptions caused by the virus that's making it harder for food to get from farm to table. Trucking bottlenecks, and snarled port traffic have also contributed to why shoppers are seeing empty shelves."

Its  not  going to take  much more  of this to bring everything to a screeching  halt.

Aren't you the guy who said it was nothing more than a flu, and now you're peddling a doomsday outlook?

Which is it lib?

Quote from: Solar on April 13, 2020, 04:15:05 AM
Aren't you the guy who said it was nothing more than a flu, and now you're peddling a doomsday outlook?

Which is it lib?

Yea  and  im going to be right. However, its everyone else  who is  peddaling fear and  panic and the supply chain is  going to shut  down if we stay under house arrest.

Here is a  hopeful sign. I urge you to join the freedom lovers.

Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
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Now this is viral growth: a North Carolina Facebook group called #ReopenNC began last Thursday and has 21,000 members already; it is calling for a protest tomorrow. North Carolina, population 10.4 million, has 81 #COVID deaths and 331 people hospitalized.

Quote from: ldub23 on April 13, 2020, 05:43:00 AM
Yea  and  im going to be right. However, its everyone else  who is  peddaling fear and  panic and the supply chain is  going to shut  down if we stay under house arrest.

Here is a  hopeful sign. I urge you to join the freedom lovers.

Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
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15m
Now this is viral growth: a North Carolina Facebook group called #ReopenNC began last Thursday and has 21,000 members already; it is calling for a protest tomorrow. North Carolina, population 10.4 million, has 81 #COVID deaths and 331 people hospitalized.

You're not only a hypocrite, you're a liar!!!
First you claim it's only a flu, and now you're advocating supply chain collapse. Dude, you are as transparent as air.

Quote from: Solar on April 13, 2020, 07:15:45 AM
You're not only a hypocrite, you're a liar!!!
First you claim it's only a flu, and now you're advocating supply chain collapse. Dude, you are as transparent as air.

I will have to disagree with you. you  know  i have  been saying the fear  mongers are causing the  panic and that will cause our  freedoms  to disappear. I  seem to be  more  concerned with freedom than anyone else  on here. And speaking  of  freedom, one  more  down the  drain

Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
Meanwhile, a Massachusetts city of 93,000 has ordered a nighttime lockdown for all residents (who knew that #SARSCoV2 spreads better at night?).

I don't even know what to say anymore.

And another civil liberty  down the  drain. And you  people  on here actually think these  people are  just  going to give  up being  dictators? They love it.

Quote from: ldub23 on April 13, 2020, 07:34:04 AM
I will have to disagree with you. you  know  i have  been saying the fear  mongers are causing the  panic and that will cause our  freedoms  to disappear. I  seem to be  more  concerned with freedom than anyone else  on here. And speaking  of  freedom, one  more  down the  drain

Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
Meanwhile, a Massachusetts city of 93,000 has ordered a nighttime lockdown for all residents (who knew that #SARSCoV2 spreads better at night?).

I don't even know what to say anymore.

And another civil liberty  down the  drain. And you  people  on here actually think these  people are  just  going to give  up being  dictators? They love it.

Which is it lib, freedoms, or a collapsed supply chain? You claim supply chains are shutting down because of a a virus no worse than the flu, and in another breath claim the govt is stealing freedoms.
What's your solution?

This virus seems to be very poorly understood. It can peak then fall away and then rise again. People that had the virus are tested free of it after dealing with the illness only to become infected again. Vaccines may not be the answer. Maybe it is Gods punishment on humans for electing godless people like Duterte, Bolsonaro, Trump and Netanyahu.

Quote from: Prospector on April 13, 2020, 10:09:50 AM
This virus seems to be very poorly understood. It can peak then fall away and then rise again. People that had the virus are tested free of it after dealing with the illness only to become infected again. Vaccines may not be the answer. Maybe it is Gods punishment on humans for electing godless people like Duterte, Bolsonaro, Trump and Netanyahu.

Orrrr, could it be the CCP is solely to blame for infecting the entire world? Yeah, that's the only answer, commie scum!

Are  hospitals themselves the worst  place to be?

https://medium.com/@tepper_jonathan/ground-zero-when-the-cure-is-worse-than-the-disease-3c513d91393d

"We are learning that hospitals might be the main Covid-19 carriers," they wrote. "They are rapidly populated by infected patients, facilitating transmission to uninfected patients."
"It's like a cesspool...It's now spreading throughout the hospital"

Quote from: Prospector on April 13, 2020, 10:09:50 AM
This virus seems to be very poorly understood. It can peak then fall away and then rise again. People that had the virus are tested free of it after dealing with the illness only to become infected again. Vaccines may not be the answer. Maybe it is Gods punishment on humans for electing godless people like Duterte, Bolsonaro, Trump and Netanyahu.

The virus is "poorly understood" because it has become politicized. With that, comes disinformation, which blur the lines of distinction between fact and fiction. Hence, a confused people are easily manipulated.

WHO Official Says She Suspected Human-To-Human COVID-19 Transmission 'Right From The Start' — But The WHO Echoed Misleading Chinese Claims To The Contrary For Weeks

A World Health Organization official said Monday that she suspected human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus "right from the start," beginning on Dec. 31, 2019.

But WHO officials echoed Chinese authorities and denied any suggestion of human-to-human transmission for weeks after Dec. 31. Chinese doctors, meanwhile, were reported to have known for weeks prior that the virus could be transmitted between humans.

"Right from the start, from the first notification we received on the 31st of December, given that this was a cluster of pneumonia — I'm a MERS specialist, so my background is in coronaviruses and influenza — so immediately thought, given that this is a respiratory pathogen, that of course there may be human-to-human transmission," Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove said in a press briefing Monday.

Despite Van Kerkhove's apparent suspicions, the WHO repeated Chinese authorities' downplaying the possibility that the virus could spread between people.



https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/13/world-health-organization-human-transmission-timeline-china-covid19-coronavirus/

Quote from: Solar on April 13, 2020, 08:58:01 PM
WHO Official Says She Suspected Human-To-Human COVID-19 Transmission 'Right From The Start' — But The WHO Echoed Misleading Chinese Claims To The Contrary For Weeks

A World Health Organization official said Monday that she suspected human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus "right from the start," beginning on Dec. 31, 2019.

But WHO officials echoed Chinese authorities and denied any suggestion of human-to-human transmission for weeks after Dec. 31. Chinese doctors, meanwhile, were reported to have known for weeks prior that the virus could be transmitted between humans.

"Right from the start, from the first notification we received on the 31st of December, given that this was a cluster of pneumonia — I'm a MERS specialist, so my background is in coronaviruses and influenza — so immediately thought, given that this is a respiratory pathogen, that of course there may be human-to-human transmission," Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove said in a press briefing Monday.

Despite Van Kerkhove's apparent suspicions, the WHO repeated Chinese authorities' downplaying the possibility that the virus could spread between people.



https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/13/world-health-organization-human-transmission-timeline-china-covid19-coronavirus/

The WHO - We wont get fooled again

Quote from: Sauce on April 14, 2020, 05:05:08 AM

The WHO - We wont get fooled again

Oooh, Excellent choice of words.