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COVID-19, known as WUFLU

Started by Solar, January 21, 2020, 05:27:10 AM

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Quote from: Solar on March 09, 2020, 10:03:42 PM
I was thinking the same. Their medical care in 17th century, witch doctors and herbs. Only the wealthy elite, meaning party members get actual medical care.
It must be Hell inside the prison...
I can not imagine.

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Quote from: Possum on March 09, 2020, 10:30:51 PM
I can not imagine.
I can, only because my job was to spy on the other side. Honestly, it was like watching a historical documentary in real life, as if you had taken a time machine centuries into the past.
The only machine you saw, was hand made tools and oxen, every now and then a military vehicle from the war would make an appearance, as a reminder this is today.

Even the packs they wore were made of twigs and skins of assorted animals sewn together attached to the backs of people not much over 80 lbs each and hunched over. They were mere shells of humans. Images I'll never forget...
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I was checking today at:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

What I find interesting, based on the plots, is that the virus is spreading at a linear rate. Viruses naturally spread at an exponential rate - one infects ten infects one-hundred infects ... If you look at the plots on a linear scale, it is increasing on a "line" ... meaning linearly. On a logarithmic scale (button over the plot), the spread flattens out ... so not spreading exponentially (at least yet).

That tells me that it may be there is enough proactive reaction that the natural growth rate is being kept under control. Not sure how long that can keep up ... hopefully long enough for a vaccine to be distributed (~12-18 months).

At the linear growth rate, they are reporting about 100k cases per month (only one months worth of data so far ... so this is a questionable estimate). But if that maintain, we can expect about 1.8 million cases (world-wide) before the virus is distributed. Although, the public / professionals are learning how better to deal with the virus. My best guess is that this will escalate before it improves ... mostly because some will not heed the proactive suggestions. 

Viruses naturally grow as: xt = x0 (1+r)^t where xt is the total infected population, x0 is the population infected at some initial time, r is the rate of growth (depends on the virus), and t is time (^ means t is an exponent). What is alarming is that the growth rate r is large because the virus can infect others for longer times than most and at longer distances.

The cycle breaks down when people stop infecting each other (no, duh). For example, China seems to have experienced unchecked (exponential) virus growth in the beginning, but now people are fearful and staying home ... which can break the cycle if they stay in relative isolation until people recover (immune systems kill the virus) or they die. China is an example of how dire an exponential situation can become, and so rapidly.

The curves suggest that the natural growth is checked - not growing exponentially world-wide. It's yet to be seen if the total infections curve stays linear, escalates, or (God willing) flattens out. But, for now, the growth appears linear ... that's not good for some, but good for most of us. Much, much better than the exponential alternative.



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New York Deploys National Guard to Set Up Coronavirus Containment Area

Say What? The "panic that you see is unwarranted," the governor added.     Yet here he is setting up quarantine zones?


New York National Guard troops were deployed Tuesday to assemble a containment area as part of the state's effort to combat the spread of the coronavirus.

The deployment to a New Rochelle command post comes after Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) announced an additional 25 cases of the deadly illness were confirmed overnight. Though Cuomo did not comment on the development in New Rochelle, the Westchester County town where a bulk of the state's 165 cases are located, he did tell CNN that officials are "taking more dramatic actions in that cluster." The "panic that you see is unwarranted," the governor added. "We have dealt with worse viruses."
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/10/new-york-deploys-national-guard-to-set-up-coronavirus-containment-area/
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Quote from: Solar on March 10, 2020, 03:26:48 AM
New York Deploys National Guard to Set Up Coronavirus Containment Area

Say What? The "panic that you see is unwarranted," the governor added.     Yet here he is setting up quarantine zones?


New York National Guard troops were deployed Tuesday to assemble a containment area as part of the state's effort to combat the spread of the coronavirus.

The deployment to a New Rochelle command post comes after Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) announced an additional 25 cases of the deadly illness were confirmed overnight. Though Cuomo did not comment on the development in New Rochelle, the Westchester County town where a bulk of the state's 165 cases are located, he did tell CNN that officials are "taking more dramatic actions in that cluster." The "panic that you see is unwarranted," the governor added. "We have dealt with worse viruses."
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/10/new-york-deploys-national-guard-to-set-up-coronavirus-containment-area/
Here's NY in a week or two.

https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1237445256393654273
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NY gov. Cuomo appeared on Morning Joe and said the Federal Government's response is like the response to Katrina. If I didn't know better I'd think the Dems have colluded with the Chinese Communists to infect a few thousand of their people to create a pandemic and crash the worldwide economy just to take down Trump and go back to business as usual.  Sounds too much like a novel to be true though. 
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Can we be honest here? It's pretty damned obvious this is more than just your run of the mill virus.
Closing venues of all kinds, quarantining people, areas, and now cities? When has this ever happened in the past?

Yeah, I know the claims, the flu is just as deadly, but there's never been this reaction worldwide over the flu.

Fact is, they don't want us to know. What they don't want us to know is rather obvious so as to avoid panic, but it's beginning to appear that may wind up unavoidable.

Stay safe, wash your hands, avoid crowds as best as possible, and use disinfectant wipes on everything that you come in contact with, like groceries and mail/packages.
You can't be too careful with this bug, it is definitely a nasty one.
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The NCAA made the unprecedented decision Wednesday to hold its men's and women's basketball tournaments without fans because of the ongoing coronavirus crisis.

"While I understand how disappointing this is for all fans of our sports, my decision is based on the current understanding of how COVID-19 is progressing in the United States," NCAA president Mark Emmert said in a statement. "This decision is in the best interest of public health, including that of coaches, administrators, fans and, most importantly, our student-athletes. We recognize the opportunity to compete in an NCAA national championship is an experience of a lifetime for the students and their families. Today, we will move forward and conduct championships consistent with the current information and will continue to monitor and make adjustments as needed."

Emmert told The Associated Press that canceling was considered.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28885422/ncaa-says-tournament-go-fans
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Quote from: Solar on March 11, 2020, 12:52:07 PM
Can we be honest here? It's pretty damned obvious this is more than just your run of the mill virus.
Closing venues of all kinds, quarantining people, areas, and now cities? When has this ever happened in the past?

Yeah, I know the claims, the flu is just as deadly, but there's never been this reaction worldwide over the flu.

Fact is, they don't want us to know. What they don't want us to know is rather obvious so as to avoid panic, but it's beginning to appear that may wind up unavoidable.

Stay safe, wash your hands, avoid crowds as best as possible, and use disinfectant wipes on everything that you come in contact with, like groceries and mail/packages.
You can't be too careful with this bug, it is definitely a nasty one.
This might also be how the next wars will be fought. It does not look as if this virus developed naturally. If china developed it and it got away from them, they got a good look at how the world would respond.

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Quote from: Possum on March 11, 2020, 09:35:27 PM
This might also be how the next wars will be fought. It does not look as if this virus developed naturally. If china developed it and it got away from them, they got a good look at how the world would respond.
Good point.
I was looking at China as a whole and how Trump literally just eviscerated their economy, Hong Kong defiant, Taiwan backed by the US, and China unable to feed their burgeoning army, too may people reaching retirement age and no way to support them.
CCP was backed into a corner and felt they had no other recourse than to remove the weak and elderly. These are commie scum after all, where people are pawns to used in their quest for even more power.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if China had been working on this to control their own population. With an economy finally placed in Check and a growing population, there was no way they could afford what was about to strike.
Though I do believe it's release was premature. Because the CCP is all about profit and control, but without a vaccine in place, they lose out on profit to the world when a vaccine is finally developed.

China hates what Trump did to them, (Think Reagan and the USSR) Trump had literally won the Cold war without firing a shot, but China had been working on a dooms day device set for a retaliatory strike that they could turn off whenever the desired results had been achieved, but it went off too soon without a defense to it, and now China can't stop it.

I've been following this since the first week the outbreak occurred in Wuhan and I think many in the party were as shocked as everyone else, they simply had no idea the party had this secret they were hiding, which explains how a small faction tried to suppress the truth.
It took at least a week before the truth began to work its way out, and another week to figure out what to do about it, but it was already too late.
Yeah, I've been piecing this puzzle together for quite sometime now, though I may be wrong on the timeline, there is no doubt in my mind for the reasons behind this virus.
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Quote from: Solar on March 11, 2020, 11:18:05 PM
Good point.
I was looking at China as a whole and how Trump literally just eviscerated their economy, Hong Kong defiant, Taiwan backed by the US, and China unable to feed their burgeoning army, too may people reaching retirement age and no way to support them.
CCP was backed into a corner and felt they had no other recourse than to remove the weak and elderly. These are commie scum after all, where people are pawns to used in their quest for even more power.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if China had been working on this to control their own population. With an economy finally placed in Check and a growing population, there was no way they could afford what was about to strike.
Though I do believe it's release was premature. Because the CCP is all about profit and control, but without a vaccine in place, they lose out on profit to the world when a vaccine is finally developed.

China hates what Trump did to them, (Think Reagan and the USSR) Trump had literally won the Cold war without firing a shot, but China had been working on a dooms day device set for a retaliatory strike that they could turn off whenever the desired results had been achieved, but it went off too soon without a defense to it, and now China can't stop it.

I've been following this since the first week the outbreak occurred in Wuhan and I think many in the party were as shocked as everyone else, they simply had no idea the party had this secret they were hiding, which explains how a small faction tried to suppress the truth.
It took at least a week before the truth began to work its way out, and another week to figure out what to do about it, but it was already too late.
Yeah, I've been piecing this puzzle together for quite sometime now, though I may be wrong on the timeline, there is no doubt in my mind for the reasons behind this virus.
The places that have very little of the virus, Mongolia, Hong Kong, Russia,ect  all closed their borders back in January. Wow, looks like if you can control who comes into your country, you can control what diseases come into your country. Wonder if any dems are listening.