COVID-19, known as WUFLU

Started by Solar, January 21, 2020, 12:27:10 PM

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http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2003/04/29/842352.htm

"But while SARS is new and frightening, its impact so far has been minor. In a mild year, influenza and its complications kill an estimated 250,000 people around the world. Malaria kills at least a million, mostly children. "

Thats an interesting  article  about the SARS hysteria. One  other  interesting  point  is you  will see  very  few  deaths  in races  other than Asian. As  in sars, corona virus is  going to be a  largely  asian infection.

ldub23

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/its-catching/202001/the-chinese-coronavirus-is-not-the-zombie-apocalypse

Another  interesting article published  early  in the outbreak but  makes  many good  points.

"Perhaps the biggest problem facing authorities is that the new Coronavirus is relatively mild. With SARS and MERS, people got very sick and were easy to identify. With the new virus, you may have it and not even know. Based on the early statistics, the mortality rate for Coronavirus is roughly 3%, but the true number is probably much, much lower given the likelihood that many people have already been infected but haven't been sick enough to even seek treatment. Will the virus spread around the world? Yes, because it already has. But will it spread en masse? That remains to be seen. But if it does, expect it to be no worse than the flu."

Interesting, they make the  same  point  i have been making  for  days. The  death rate  may even be  lower than the reg  flu because  thousands  have  mostly  likely  had the  virus and  recovered and thought  it was the  common cold.

"The good news about the new virus is that while it appears to spread more easily than its two predecessors, it is far less severe. That fits with a general rule that the more deadly the virus, the harder it is to catch." 

ldub23

If this  is  called a  pandemic, then flu should  be a 24/7 never ending  pandemic. I am 100% certain  in a few  months i will pull this thread  back up and say i was  100% right. One other thing, like the regular  flu the  people who are by  far the  most  at risk are  those  over  65.

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Quote from: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 08:18:19 AM
If this  is  called a  pandemic, then flu should  be a 24/7 never ending  pandemic. I am 100% certain  in a few  months i will pull this thread  back up and say i was  100% right. One other thing, like the regular  flu the  people who are by  far the  most  at risk are  those  over  65.
Why do you suppose other countries are hitting the panic button. I do not recall ever seeing so many huge cities or even small cities quarantined. I do not know but am guessing that the costs with quarantining a city must run into the millions, if unnecessary, then why? I'm on the fence in this one, I am secluded enough so I do not have to see anyone for as long as I want, but I still get mail, still have to get gas and diesel from somewhere, so its never complete isolation. I have to admit I am taking precautions that I would normally not do, but that has more to do with what I feel is the dishonesty from China than anything else. I have not seen anywhere that China is allowing other countries to see for themselves what is going on.  I hope you are right and are 100% correct, but its too early to start placing bets.

Solar

Quote from: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 08:14:41 AM
https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/its-catching/202001/the-chinese-coronavirus-is-not-the-zombie-apocalypse

Another  interesting article published  early  in the outbreak but  makes  many good  points.

"Perhaps the biggest problem facing authorities is that the new Coronavirus is relatively mild. With SARS and MERS, people got very sick and were easy to identify. With the new virus, you may have it and not even know. Based on the early statistics, the mortality rate for Coronavirus is roughly 3%, but the true number is probably much, much lower given the likelihood that many people have already been infected but haven't been sick enough to even seek treatment. Will the virus spread around the world? Yes, because it already has. But will it spread en masse? That remains to be seen. But if it does, expect it to be no worse than the flu."

Interesting, they make the  same  point  i have been making  for  days. The  death rate  may even be  lower than the reg  flu because  thousands  have  mostly  likely  had the  virus and  recovered and thought  it was the  common cold.

"The good news about the new virus is that while it appears to spread more easily than its two predecessors, it is far less severe. That fits with a general rule that the more deadly the virus, the harder it is to catch."
A psychologist, seriously? And yeah, his opinion isn't worth anymore than yours, especially considering he made that statement around the time the rest of the world was waking to the obvious.
Add to that, he's still repeating the lie that it came from an animal.
You can do better, at least try if you are Hell bent on trying to prove this is nothing more than a new flu...

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Quote from: s3779m on February 26, 2020, 08:53:16 AM
Why do you suppose other countries are hitting the panic button. I do not recall ever seeing so many huge cities or even small cities quarantined. I do not know but am guessing that the costs with quarantining a city must run into the millions, if unnecessary, then why? I'm on the fence in this one, I am secluded enough so I do not have to see anyone for as long as I want, but I still get mail, still have to get gas and diesel from somewhere, so its never complete isolation. I have to admit I am taking precautions that I would normally not do, but that has more to do with what I feel is the dishonesty from China than anything else. I have not seen anywhere that China is allowing other countries to see for themselves what is going on.  I hope you are right and are 100% correct, but its too early to start placing bets.
He doesn't want to address the reality of the situation, that other nation's know the truth about the origins of this virus.
You're Right, we have never witnessed in our life time, nations quarantining cities, borders, people having restricted movement under threat of arrest, forced into self quarantine, this is unprecedented.
When was there ever a flu outbreak that caused a world response such as this?

My only point for starting this thread was over the lies out of China, and looking back, it appears they had good reason to lie and now the worlds govt's know and to avoid panic, they refuse to tell what they know.
I get that, if the people knew the truth, there would probably be rioting in inner cities, with their dog eat dog mentality.

All I can so is bring awareness and hope people prepare accordingly. Like you, I too can avoid contact with the outside world, but for only so long then I too need to get fuel and food for another month.
I hate conspiracies, but until we get the truth, one can only prepare for the worst outcome.
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Quote from: Solar on February 26, 2020, 08:00:25 AM
This is not SARS, SARS was not a weaponized virus that escaped a CCP lab.
When was the last time you saw Nations close their borders over the flu? Can you answer that?
Why did you avoid my question? :rolleyes:
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Quote from: s3779m on February 26, 2020, 08:53:16 AM
Why do you suppose other countries are hitting the panic button. I do not recall ever seeing so many huge cities or even small cities quarantined. I do not know but am guessing that the costs with quarantining a city must run into the millions, if unnecessary, then why? I'm on the fence in this one, I am secluded enough so I do not have to see anyone for as long as I want, but I still get mail, still have to get gas and diesel from somewhere, so its never complete isolation. I have to admit I am taking precautions that I would normally not do, but that has more to do with what I feel is the dishonesty from China than anything else. I have not seen anywhere that China is allowing other countries to see for themselves what is going on.  I hope you are right and are 100% correct, but its too early to start placing bets.

Panic  is easy  to spread. Thats the  only reason i can think of. The  media  did  its  best to make  aids the  end  of the earth  by  doing  its  best to claim it was going to spread  into the  general population. Needless to say  it  didnt. Another good thing  is the  flu season is  coming to an end. Nowhere other than china are deaths a  big deal with this. Some will die, up to 661,000 die  of  the  flu.

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Quote from: Solar on February 26, 2020, 09:19:07 AM
Why did you avoid my question? :rolleyes:

Simply total unfounded  panic and  i think you  will also observe, and should already  be  observing that very  very  few  people are dying  in any country  other than china. Lots  of  people are dying  of  the  numerous different strains  of  flu however.

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Quote from: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 09:48:22 AM
Simply total unfounded  panic and  i think you  will also observe, and should already  be  observing that very  very  few  people are dying  in any country  other than china. Lots  of  people are dying  of  the  numerous different strains  of  flu however.
Nope! This thing only just started, they are locking people in quarantine that only have the virus but no symptoms. When have nation's done this over the flu?
Here, when wast the last time you ever heard of a flu victim being forced into quarantine?
I dare you to find an update to her whereabouts today. She was in daily contact up to the day this last story came out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93dvy9wkxLI&feature=emb_logo
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Not surprisingly Pelosi and Schumer are going all in thinking "this" is what is going to get Trump. They are really becoming a real life example of Wyley Coyote.
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Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on February 26, 2020, 12:44:31 PM
Not surprisingly Pelosi and Schumer are going all in thinking "this" is what is going to get Trump. They are really becoming a real life example of Wyley Coyote.
It's all they have and it won't pan out the way the hope.
Even if we are hit hard, the rest of the world will be harder hit and all economies will suffer. The US won't be hit nearly as hard as the rest of the globe, which is why every free nation is investing in dollars and gold. We will still control the world economy and every American will see we dodged the bullet.

I believe there will be a lot of deaths, but nothing like Iran is about to feel, or a 100 other countries around the globe and come early summer this will all be dying down rapidly, and with reports of a vaccine soon to be released for the next season, everything will return to normal 'Here'.

It's the next couple of months that will be the hardest to deal with, the worry of contracting the disease, run on certain products the relapse of the disease and deaths that follow, the media will beat us over the head with the doom and gloom, but that will only last a little over a month, and the Dims will still be without a winning candidate and no plan moving forward.

Yeah, I've given this a lot of thought in how the left plans to play it, and in the end, they lose even worse because everyone will see they tried to blame something on Trump he had nothing to do with, and did an amazing job of controlling it.

My worries? Ca and the Dims not knowing how to deal with it and making it worse with their need to let in illegals. It could be pretty bad out here when the hospitals are over run with a bunch of illegals filling the beds.
The people will not be happy...
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Quote from: Solar on February 26, 2020, 10:11:53 AM
Nope! This thing only just started, they are locking people in quarantine that only have the virus but no symptoms. When have nation's done this over the flu?
Here, when wast the last time you ever heard of a flu victim being forced into quarantine?
I dare you to find an update to her whereabouts today. She was in daily contact up to the day this last story came out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93dvy9wkxLI&feature=emb_logo

I will take a wild  guess and say she  is doing  just  fine, and will live a  long  life(unless a truck runs  over  her).

Im really  surprised the  usually  media  savvy people here seem to have  no clue. We  all know they like to hype  a story  for  ratings, We  know they desperately  want to use this to get Trump, and we  know  they will always  push the  worst case  hysterical scenario. How  many people got the flu today? We wont  hear a single story  about that.

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Solar, what you said earlier makes sense, took me long enough huh, If this was just some a virus from a bat, and could be proven, China would not have been keeping this a secret. They would have shared what they knew and held their hand out for help $. But its not from a bat, this was a weapon and China does not what the world to be able to prove it. I'm guessing for use on Hong Kong to stop the riots? The riots are still ongoing so that might be a bad guess. This could/will be the final nail for Wi.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/01/hong-kong-protests-coronavirus-outbreak/605662/

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Quote from: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 02:12:44 PM
I will take a wild  guess and say she  is doing  just  fine, and will live a  long  life(unless a truck runs  over  her).

Im really  surprised the  usually  media  savvy people here seem to have  no clue. We  all know they like to hype  a story  for  ratings, We  know they desperately  want to use this to get Trump, and we  know  they will always  push the  worst case  hysterical scenario. How  many people got the flu today? We wont  hear a single story  about that.
The obvious went right over your head. She is being locked in quarantine, hasn't been heard from since the 17th.
Tell me, how many people with the flu get put in lock down?

I don't think you grasp the severity of this strain, one manufactured in a weapons lab that apparently escaped, forced the CCP to lock down the entire community of 20 million people.
What do you think China knew that they weren't telling the rest of the world at the time? Why did they quarantine all these people if it was only a "FLU"?
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