Quote from: Steel Shark on July 27, 2021, 06:20:44 AMSo facilities and states are starting to require masks ... sigh, again, because 20% of the population is so smart that it continues to put hospitals at max capacity.

Soon, the ER who has to attend to the 91 year old woman with breathing problems, will delay 2 minutes too long.

And, of course, we will blame the hospital ... not all of the smart people, too smart to get the "jab" and convinced that they are saving humanity, for the sake of knowing that they are smarter than the scientific community surrounding the jab.

Trump got the jab and it does not seem that his golf game has suffered.  Good thing the balls do not have metallic centers, and so far, the jab has not caused him to gravitate to the moon.

Get real, get vaccinated, quit telling people to die because it's the conservative thing to do

Why do people who are vaccinated need to wear a mask?

Quote from: Possum on July 27, 2021, 09:54:26 AMWhy do people who are vaccinated need to wear a mask?

To prove their status as sheep?

Quote from: Possum on July 27, 2021, 09:54:26 AMWhy do people who are vaccinated need to wear a mask?

Why? Because it's not really a "vaccination". Why? Because it's all political, it has always been political and it will always be political. Why? Because it was created in a lab, the Communists and the Democrats are in bed with one another. Why? Because the gullible will think that they are "protected" from the so-called "virus". Why? Because Democrats can claim that Beijing is doing so much more than President Trump ever did, (even though they know this is just another lie).

Why? Because the Democrats can claim "plausible deniability" for anyone who dies from either the "vaccine" or the "virus" claiming that somehow, someway, somewhere they didn't wear their mask enough. Why? Because the Democrats wanted to get rid of the older more conservative folks and this is one way to do it.

Why? Because Democrats are attempting to whip up the fear factor to make themselves look like heroes to the gullible. Why? To give an excuse for the massive deficits, unemployment and inflation that they are laying the groundwork for.

Why? Because it's all part and parcel of the "reset" that Democrats want, support, promote and secretly encourage.

Quote from: Possum on July 27, 2021, 09:54:26 AMWhy do people who are vaccinated need to wear a mask?

https://thelibertydaily.com/if-vaccines-work-why-is-the-cdc-reinstating-face-mask-guidelines/

QuoteWith so many breakthrough cases making the news and a vast majority of them that get no attention at all, this move seems to indicate the CDC quietly does not believe in the effectiveness of these "vaccines." Nor should they, and perhaps they never did.

So the cdc does not have the confidence in the very vaccine they are telling us to get.  I guess the question should be why should anyone take the vaccine?  Right now, we do not, repeat, do not know the long term effects. This is not a "vaccine".

Here is another article along the same lines.

 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cdc-expected-to-reverse-policy-on-face-masks-later-tuesday-amid-reports-of-breakthrough-infections-with-delta-variant-of-covid-19-11627399505?mod=home-page

As I used to get told, "pay attention to this part" it's a good one,

QuoteThe U.S. is sticking with travel restrictions on international travel as long as delta is spreading around the world, the Associated Press reported. And some federal agencies are moving to mandate vaccines for healthcare workers, including the Department of Veterans Affairs, which announced its decision on Monday.

Does the CDC not know about our open border policy? These are the people we are to be trusting for information about the virus?

Quote from: Possum on July 27, 2021, 12:56:42 PMHere is another article along the same lines.

 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cdc-expected-to-reverse-policy-on-face-masks-later-tuesday-amid-reports-of-breakthrough-infections-with-delta-variant-of-covid-19-11627399505?mod=home-page

As I used to get told, "pay attention to this part" it's a good one,


Does the CDC not know about our open border policy? These are the people we are to be trusting for information about the virus?

           

Quote from: Possum on July 27, 2021, 12:56:42 PMHere is another article along the same lines.

 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cdc-expected-to-reverse-policy-on-face-masks-later-tuesday-amid-reports-of-breakthrough-infections-with-delta-variant-of-covid-19-11627399505?mod=home-page

As I used to get told, "pay attention to this part" it's a good one,


Does the CDC not know about our open border policy? These are the people we are to be trusting for information about the virus?

I DON'T trust ANY of them! They have lied to us so many times that I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw a Moose!

Remember this on come winter

Quote from: Possum on July 27, 2021, 09:54:26 AMWhy do people who are vaccinated need to wear a mask?

Because even if vaccinated, you can develop Covid.  When I recieved my shot, I signed the paperwork that said so.  It included the caveat that "no vaccines were approved to fight Covid".  Very upfront.

I raise bees and many people buy local honey because the bees feed off of local plants that people are allergic too (myself included).  By using the honey, some believe that you develop a resistance to those allergies due to the small doses received in the honey.  Medical professionals do not prescribe honey, but may suggest it and labelling prohibits any reference to medical benefits.

Doctors have, for some time, given small doses of "poison ivy" to people who once developed extreme reactions.  The small dose does not prevent poison ivy rashes and itches, it only minimizes those and makes it so that you can do your daily stuff without much interference.

Which brings the topic back to the Covid vaccines.  They do NOT prevent Covid, and they are not "vaccines" in the sense of smallpox or polio.  They introduce your body to something resembling Covid and allow your body a chance to build up a defense.  In the process, you may hurt and develop minor symptoms.  Then you recover, usually without hospitalization and you live to tell the story about how that vaccine put you down for 2 weeks, and get to report that to VAERS.

I am a poor example.  I have not had so much as a cold in 5 years (I do have allergies).  I get the flu shot every year.  I got the Covid vaccine as soon as I was eligible.  It worries me that educated people fear those shots.  Why am I not dead instead of in great health?

If this is a serious question, not a setup for some man losing both testicles after the "jab" I would be happy to share what others have experienced in my realm.  I can do a quick count of 20 people who had nothing beyond a sore arm, and 1 who was very tired (80 years old) for two days after the vaccine.

I also had to convince Mom (89) to get the "jab", despite my brother.  She is a smart woman.

Bad mouth POTUS Trump all you want.

At least Trump got the vaccine.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/01/politics/trump-melania-vaccinated-white-house/index.html

Wow ... this woman was years before her time and developed an adverse reaction to Covid 5 years before we even knew Covid existed.

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/09/16/woman-recalls-losing-all-limbs-to-kidney-stone-complications/

Answer:  Never see a doctor, they give you bad news and cut stuff off.  That seems in line with the medical advice given by the experts on this page.

When I was in San Dog, there was a group in Ocean Beach called OMBAC.  Technically Old Mission Bay Athletic Club.  Locally known as Old Men Behaving as Children.

This thread .... well, just ask yourself if you are a "Baby Daddy" or "Baby Mama" or if you are really a Dad or a Mom.  Do you care?  If you care, get the "jab" and the 3rd shot when available, to teach your children well and let them live to 100.

Quote from: Steel Shark on July 28, 2021, 05:25:59 AMBecause even if vaccinated, you can develop Covid.  When I recieved my shot, I signed the paperwork that said so.  It included the caveat that "no vaccines were approved to fight Covid".  Very upfront.

I raise bees and many people buy local honey because the bees feed off of local plants that people are allergic too (myself included).  By using the honey, some believe that you develop a resistance to those allergies due to the small doses received in the honey.  Medical professionals do not prescribe honey, but may suggest it and labelling prohibits any reference to medical benefits.

Doctors have, for some time, given small doses of "poison ivy" to people who once developed extreme reactions.  The small dose does not prevent poison ivy rashes and itches, it only minimizes those and makes it so that you can do your daily stuff without much interference.

Which brings the topic back to the Covid vaccines.  They do NOT prevent Covid, and they are not "vaccines" in the sense of smallpox or polio.  They introduce your body to something resembling Covid and allow your body a chance to build up a defense.  In the process, you may hurt and develop minor symptoms.  Then you recover, usually without hospitalization and you live to tell the story about how that vaccine put you down for 2 weeks, and get to report that to VAERS.

I am a poor example.  I have not had so much as a cold in 5 years (I do have allergies).  I get the flu shot every year.  I got the Covid vaccine as soon as I was eligible.  It worries me that educated people fear those shots.  Why am I not dead instead of in great health?

If this is a serious question, not a setup for some man losing both testicles after the "jab" I would be happy to share what others have experienced in my realm.  I can do a quick count of 20 people who had nothing beyond a sore arm, and 1 who was very tired (80 years old) for two days after the vaccine.

I also had to convince Mom (89) to get the "jab", despite my brother.  She is a smart woman.

No set up at all, but the correct answer is the cdc does not have confidence that the "vaccine" will prevent anything. As for side effects, this vaccine has not had enough time for any study to be done on long term effects. Let that sink in. Makes you wonder why they want masks, they do not work either.

By the way, didn't our president guarantee that if you get the vaccine YOU WILL NOT GET THE COVID?

Quote from: Steel Shark on July 28, 2021, 05:25:59 AMBecause even if vaccinated, you can develop Covid.  When I recieved my shot, I signed the paperwork that said so.  It included the caveat that "no vaccines were approved to fight Covid".  Very upfront.

I raise bees and many people buy local honey because the bees feed off of local plants that people are allergic too (myself included).  By using the honey, some believe that you develop a resistance to those allergies due to the small doses received in the honey.  Medical professionals do not prescribe honey, but may suggest it and labelling prohibits any reference to medical benefits.

Doctors have, for some time, given small doses of "poison ivy" to people who once developed extreme reactions.  The small dose does not prevent poison ivy rashes and itches, it only minimizes those and makes it so that you can do your daily stuff without much interference.

Which brings the topic back to the Covid vaccines.  They do NOT prevent Covid, and they are not "vaccines" in the sense of smallpox or polio.  They introduce your body to something resembling Covid and allow your body a chance to build up a defense.  In the process, you may hurt and develop minor symptoms.  Then you recover, usually without hospitalization and you live to tell the story about how that vaccine put you down for 2 weeks, and get to report that to VAERS.

I am a poor example.  I have not had so much as a cold in 5 years (I do have allergies).  I get the flu shot every year.  I got the Covid vaccine as soon as I was eligible.  It worries me that educated people fear those shots.  Why am I not dead instead of in great health?

If this is a serious question, not a setup for some man losing both testicles after the "jab" I would be happy to share what others have experienced in my realm.  I can do a quick count of 20 people who had nothing beyond a sore arm, and 1 who was very tired (80 years old) for two days after the vaccine.

I also had to convince Mom (89) to get the "jab", despite my brother.  She is a smart woman.

If as you claim, there is no "vaccine" effective and if as you claim, a "mask" is still viable, why get the "vaccine"? It apparently does nothing to stop the spread, will not prevent the person from contracting it so, what does it do? I would ask the same things about a "mask" which also does not stop the "virus", won't stop it's spread, will not prevent anyone from contracting it so, what does it do?

I can tell you what it does! It gives the Democrats an excuse to stop church services. It gives the Democrats an excuse to close businesses. It gives the Democrats an excuse to stop worship of almighty God. It gives Democrats an excuse to "mandate" apparel for EVERYONE.

It gives Democrats an excuse to suspend the Constitution. It gave Democrats an excuse to steal a Presidential election. It gives Democrats an excuse to steal trillions of tax payer dollars under the title of "Covid relief". It gives Democrats an excuse to funnel trillions of tax dollars to their failed liberal bastions (i.e. New York, Commiefornia, etc.) It gives Democrats an excuse to make all the liberals scared out of their wits. It gives Democrats an excuse to force the country toward socialism, communism and a more Democrat elite rule.

Quote from: Steel Shark on July 28, 2021, 05:25:59 AMBecause even if vaccinated, you can develop Covid.  When I recieved my shot, I signed the paperwork that said so.  It included the caveat that "no vaccines were approved to fight Covid".  Very upfront.

Yet you still took the jab? And you think you're the smart one?