Quote from: elmerfudd on March 29, 2012, 02:30:52 PM
Merriam Webster's definition is indeed accurate, but not necessarily applicable to Obama. Yet.  If he gets unelected in November, definition 2 will fit.  Definition 3 is somewhat nonsensical.  Under that definition, every officeholder becomes a lame duck at some point.  But you'd have to know the time period contemplated by "term of office will soon end."  Under that definition, even St. Ronald was a lame duck. Twice.

The fact is, the term lame duck in American politics was coined to refer to officeholders who meet definition 2 in cases where the incumbent sought, but did not win, re-election.  Taxed and solar will argue that, but that does not change anything.

You're wrong. Every president within my life time serving his second term has been refereed to as a lame duck. I've heard the congress being refereed to as a lame duck congress after congressional elections also, but I've never heard the term applied to a particular congressman.

Quote from: Harry on March 29, 2012, 05:26:29 PM

You're wrong. Every president within my life time serving his second term has been refereed to as a lame duck. I've heard the congress being refereed to as a lame duck congress after congressional elections also, but I've never heard the term applied to a particular congressman.

Okay.

Quote from: elmerfudd on March 29, 2012, 05:07:27 PM
Really?  The president of the united states is "without power?"

You really believe that, too.  That's the funny part.

His party abandoned him, which left him powerless.
Of course he still has what are referred to as dictatorial powers of the office, but without the backing of his party, he is powerless to push anymore of his Marxist agenda upon the nation.

But you knew that, you just wanted to be a dick head regardless.

Quote from: Solar on March 29, 2012, 06:50:35 PM
His party abandoned him, which left him powerless.
Of course he still has what are referred to as dictatorial powers of the office, but without the backing of his party, he is powerless to push anymore of his Marxist agenda upon the nation.

But you knew that, you just wanted to be a dick head regardless.

Thanks for your insight. It is truly breathtakingly amazing. 

OK FUDDY
Lame duck (politics)
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A lame duck is an elected official who is approaching the end of his or her tenure, and especially an official whose successor has already been elected.
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    1 Description
    2 Origins of the term
    3 Examples
        3.1 Australia
        3.2 United States
            3.2.1 Examples
        3.3 Canada
    4 References
    5 See also

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The status can be due to

    having lost a re-election bid
    choosing not to seek another term at the expiration of the current term
    a term limit which keeps the official from running for that particular office again
    the abolishment of the office, which must nonetheless be served out until the end of the official's term.[1]

Lame duck officials tend to have less political power, as other elected officials are less inclined to cooperate with them. However, lame ducks are also in the peculiar position of not facing the consequences of their actions in a subsequent election, giving them greater freedom to issue unpopular decisions or appointments. Examples include last-minute midnight regulations issued by executive agencies of outgoing U.S. presidential administrations and executive orders issued by outgoing presidents.[2] Such actions date back to the Judiciary Act of 1801 ("Midnight Judges Act"), in which Federalist President John Adams and the outgoing 6th Congress amended the Judiciary Act to create more federal judge seats for Adams to appoint and the Senate to confirm before the Democratic-Republican Thomas Jefferson was inaugurated and the Democratic-Republican majority 7th Congress convened. In more recent history, U.S. President Bill Clinton was widely criticized for issuing 140 pardons and other acts of executive clemency on his last day in office, including two former close colleagues, donors, fellow Democratic members and his own half-brother.[3]

Quote from: REDWHITEBLUE2 IRISH REBEL on March 29, 2012, 08:42:07 PM
OK FUDDY
Lame duck (politics)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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A lame duck is an elected official who is approaching the end of his or her tenure, and especially an official whose successor has already been elected.
Contents
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    1 Description
    2 Origins of the term
    3 Examples
        3.1 Australia
        3.2 United States
            3.2.1 Examples
        3.3 Canada
    4 References
    5 See also

[edit] Description

The status can be due to

    having lost a re-election bid
    choosing not to seek another term at the expiration of the current term
    a term limit which keeps the official from running for that particular office again
    the abolishment of the office, which must nonetheless be served out until the end of the official's term.[1]

Lame duck officials tend to have less political power, as other elected officials are less inclined to cooperate with them. However, lame ducks are also in the peculiar position of not facing the consequences of their actions in a subsequent election, giving them greater freedom to issue unpopular decisions or appointments. Examples include last-minute midnight regulations issued by executive agencies of outgoing U.S. presidential administrations and executive orders issued by outgoing presidents.[2] Such actions date back to the Judiciary Act of 1801 ("Midnight Judges Act"), in which Federalist President John Adams and the outgoing 6th Congress amended the Judiciary Act to create more federal judge seats for Adams to appoint and the Senate to confirm before the Democratic-Republican Thomas Jefferson was inaugurated and the Democratic-Republican majority 7th Congress convened. In more recent history, U.S. President Bill Clinton was widely criticized for issuing 140 pardons and other acts of executive clemency on his last day in office, including two former close colleagues, donors, fellow Democratic members and his own half-brother.[3]

I pointed this out earlier, explaining the the term Especially is a qualifier.
But the first part of the sentence explains where he is wrong.
As usual, he ignored it.

A lame duck is an elected official who is approaching the end of his or her tenure, and especially an official whose successor has already been elected.

The numbskull in cheif is trying his damndest to step on his own d..er I mean toes.

Now he's after fossil fuels again even as gas prices increase....stupid.


Billy

He will be going into full Executive Order mode very soon.   

Quote from: Bad water BILLY on March 29, 2012, 08:57:13 PM
The numbskull in cheif is trying his damndest to step on his own d..er I mean toes.

Now he's after fossil fuels again even as gas prices increase....stupid.


Billy

Yet the left claim high gas prices are a good thing.

http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/high-gas-prices/

Quote from: Solar on March 29, 2012, 09:05:34 PM
Yet the left claim high gas prices are a good thing.

http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/high-gas-prices/

The idiot forgot to mention that anyone with Gas and oil companies in their 401 K is going to see a rise in their stocks.

An Amazingly stupid bit of spin.


Billy

Quote from: elmerfudd on March 29, 2012, 03:15:46 PM
His party had it in the Senate but not the House. Similar to Obummer's situation, where his party has the Senate but not the House. No, I did not mess up. But you (and others) are eloquently proving that TEA partiers cannot admit any sort of error, even a minor one.  It goes against their DNA.

Yep and we see what it got him in the end for not abiding by the accepted norms in politics..............bad press and very little outgoing support.

I am not a TEA party member yet cause I have found ways to hide that precious resource the goobermint wants to take from you......your money. So yeah.......Uncle Sam can get the hell out of my back pocket.

Quote from: Bad water BILLY on March 29, 2012, 09:40:47 PM

The idiot forgot to mention that anyone with Gas and oil companies in their 401 K is going to see a rise in their stocks.

An Amazingly stupid bit of spin.


Billy

I guess they can get away with saying stupid stuff because their constituency is too stupid to understand basic economics.
You and I catch it, but the left eats up the sound bites, with no understanding of the mechanics of the issue.

Quote from: Solar on March 29, 2012, 08:47:36 PM
I pointed this out earlier, explaining the the term Especially is a qualifier.
But the first part of the sentence explains where he is wrong.
As usual, he ignored it.

A lame duck is an elected official who is approaching the end of his or her tenure, and especially an official whose successor has already been elected.

Didn't ignore it.  I pointed out the meaningless of it.  If a lame duck is any official approaching the end of his term, then Ronald Reagan was one twice.  He had two terms, each had an end, ergo he was a lame duck twice.

But the origin of the term lame duck clearly indicates it is a pejorative term.  I do not believe lame duck would be an apt description of the Gipper for either of his terms. 

A

Quote from: elmerfudd on March 30, 2012, 12:18:00 PM
Didn't ignore it.  I pointed out the meaningless of it.  If a lame duck is any official approaching the end of his term, then Ronald Reagan was one twice.  He had two terms, each had an end, ergo he was a lame duck twice.

But the origin of the term lame duck clearly indicates it is a pejorative term.  I do not believe lame duck would be an apt description of the Gipper for either of his terms. 

A

A lame duck is one without power, Reagan was never without, except towards the end of his last term.
Hussein is already without power, and we have yet to name a successor.
That's the epitome of lame duck.