Quote from: Solar on June 04, 2019, 05:00:57 AM
No doubt the heat is getting turned up on these people. My thought is, Hussein isn't the kingpin, he's merely a puppet for an even larger group of commie plotters.
The guy never had an original thought in his life, he's an empty vessel. Remember his speeches without a teleprompter? I used to crack up at just how stupid the guy really was.
That's why I don't see him as a real target, he's just a figure head, it's the people installed in his Cabinet who who did the real work to succeed the agenda.
Valerie Jarrett was probably the one doing his thinking for him, Eric Holder, another committed commie, Janet Napolitano.
These were the people doing the real work .
Even Hillary wasn't in the loop as much as the others, though corrupt as Hell, I don't believe his handlers saw her as trust worthy so she was allowed to run her little scam Foundation on the side, if anything, she was more a liability, a third leg with her own mind always tripping shit up.
Problem was, they couldn't get rid of her.

Personally? I think Trump and Barr want to expose the entire operation, proving the DNC had been taken over by actual Marxists.
People won't be pointing fingers at Obozo so much, as they will the party leadership, like Fuglosi and Perez.
Cracking this whole thing wide open will also effect local power, like Ca, possibly bringing the party to its knees to the point the people kick them to the curb.
This thing is far bigger than the puppet Obozo.

One group calling the shots for obama had to be the media. This whole russiangate lie was kept alive by the media. The whole damn thing from the dossier, to the collusion, even to the beginning that Trump was getting Russia to overturn the election ( when did Trump have time to meet with the russians, he was holding rallies across the country) was seen as a two bit hit job by anyone who had any common sense. In no time it began falling apart and fingers began pointing but the media kept pushing it, nightly. Obama and his group of cronies, mccabe, comey yates, clapper, all had high titles but ran this "probe" like a bunch of third graders. I do believe people would be in jail already but it seems like evidence has to convince the media first. As for the ones who were controlling obama, I am guessing they crawled back under their rock when this broke. Hope they are found.

Quote from: s3779m on June 05, 2019, 04:25:28 AM
One group calling the shots for obama had to be the media. This whole russiangate lie was kept alive by the media. The whole damn thing from the dossier, to the collusion, even to the beginning that Trump was getting Russia to overturn the election ( when did Trump have time to meet with the russians, he was holding rallies across the country) was seen as a two bit hit job by anyone who had any common sense. In no time it began falling apart and fingers began pointing but the media kept pushing it, nightly. Obama and his group of cronies, mccabe, comey yates, clapper, all had high titles but ran this "probe" like a bunch of third graders. I do believe people would be in jail already but it seems like evidence has to convince the media first. As for the ones who were controlling obama, I am guessing they crawled back under their rock when this broke. Hope they are found.

Barr is asking the same question and wants answers as to who was feeding the narrative to the LSM, who just so happened to be on the same page every given second.

Solar, I had a thought regarding our conversation on whether Obama would go to jail. We both agreed that he may not be the ring leader and if not then he would probably give up others and wont do time.

Question: What if in all the investigations it turns out that his birth certificate and college transcripts were forged, that he really wasnt a citizen? That would mean he was never eligible to be president in the first place. That might still not warrant prison but it certainly could warrant a post-presidency impeachment. Even if he's not the mastermind, that is still offensive to the office of the presidency.

Quote from: T Hunt on June 05, 2019, 12:12:04 PM
Solar, I had a thought regarding our conversation on whether Obama would go to jail. We both agreed that he may not be the ring leader and if not then he would probably give up others and wont do time.

Question: What if in all the investigations it turns out that his birth certificate and college transcripts were forged, that he really wasnt a citizen? That would mean he was never eligible to be president in the first place. That might still not warrant prison but it certainly could warrant a post-presidency impeachment. Even if he's not the mastermind, that is still offensive to the office of the presidency.

Agree. If he were Impeached, he would lose all the perks that comes from serving as POTUS, from SS protection to retirement benefits.
It also raises the question over the legality of all previous Bills signed.

Question is, does the country have the stomach if this were exposed? It opens up a whole other can of worms, like leaving the country in the hands of the GOP ,who has proven time and again, they do not have the Nations best interests at heart.
They want open borders and the list only starts there. Could the country best be served without a Dim party, one that actually keeps the Pubs in check, because the base demands it.

I'm just tossing out ideas that could result in exposing just what the Dim party is. I could be totally wrong, but the Dim party does cause a sort of Yin/Yang motion in politics.

Quote from: T Hunt on June 05, 2019, 12:12:04 PM
Solar, I had a thought regarding our conversation on whether Obama would go to jail. We both agreed that he may not be the ring leader and if not then he would probably give up others and wont do time.

Question: What if in all the investigations it turns out that his birth certificate and college transcripts were forged, that he really wasnt a citizen? That would mean he was never eligible to be president in the first place. That might still not warrant prison but it certainly could warrant a post-presidency impeachment. Even if he's not the mastermind, that is still offensive to the office of the presidency.

I am going to weigh in here if I might. Recognizing your question is purely hypothetical, the answer is nothing would happen. The GOP would obviously be in control and they would want no part of this can of worms. If we think what the house dems are doing now is distracting, trying to impeach Obama down the road would be the same in multiples. Solar does raise a valid question about bills signed into law by Obama, but these would be individual lawsuits.

I just read the Daily Caller article on the George Nader bust: https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/05/george-nader-mueller-child-pornography/

I just posted this on Gab:

QuoteI just read the Daily Caller article on what Mueller found on Nader's phone.  HOLY F*N S!  I think this is the first time I've been actually legitimately triggered to where I'm emotionally wanting to beat the life out of someone.

Y'all, if this is the start of the stuff that's going to start coming out, then Q is spot on that they won't be able to walk down the street.  I'm still processing what I just read as I type this.  Honestly, I might be one of the people who won't be able to handle what's coming out.  It was fun and games when it was speculation, but the reality might be too much for even me -- and it's impossible to offend me or get in my head.  I do the mind-fucking, not the other way around... but this? Good Lord.

This also explains Mueller's demeanor during his presser.  If I saw him or Weismann right now, I don't know what I would do.  He knew this was coming out and how people would react.

Quote from: taxed on June 05, 2019, 04:23:40 PM
I just read the Daily Caller article on the George Nader bust: https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/05/george-nader-mueller-child-pornography/

I just posted this on Gab:

I heard about this earlier, but I had no idea Nadler had this kind of background, but knowing he's a Dim, it really doesn't come as a surprise.
You're Right, Q said this was coming.

Quote from: Solar on June 05, 2019, 05:28:47 PM
I heard about this earlier, but I had no idea Nadler had this kind of background, but knowing he's a Dim, it really doesn't come as a surprise.
You're Right, Q said this was coming.

George Nader... not Nadler.... but yeah, connected to Mueller, Hillary, etc.

Quote from: taxed on June 05, 2019, 08:20:26 PM
George Nader... not Nadler.... but yeah, connected to Mueller, Hillary, etc.

Doh!

Guess who tipped Trump off? You know the Saudis have known about these scum for decades.

So, in the past few days, we've had two ex-congresspeople murdered, an ex-mayor, Hillary's brother, and this:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/commerce-official-killed-in-apparent-murder-suicide-dc-police

I'd hate to be Roger Clinton right now.

Too funny.  Roger Clinton?  Huh?  And wasn't George Nader a Trump advisor?  What does any of this have to do with the price of eggs in China? Sorry old joke. Government has replaced witches and devils in modern America. In a sense none of this speculative stuff matters for tomorrow the story changes and when there is no grounding in fact the fiction simply becomes another fiction. Imagine oneself in the 'dark ages', actually not hard to imagine.

Anyone check out the youtube by Caleb Cain on the alt-right?

https://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/why-your-brain-loves-conspiracy-theories

"I say it to you now, knowing full well that you will agree with me (that is, understand) only if you already agree with me." Stanley Fish

Quote from: midcan5 on June 09, 2019, 04:19:27 AM
Too funny.  Roger Clinton?  Huh?  And wasn't George Nader a Trump advisor?  What does any of this have to do with the price of eggs in China? Sorry old joke. Government has replaced witches and devils in modern America. In a sense none of this speculative stuff matters for tomorrow the story changes and when there is no grounding in fact the fiction simply becomes another fiction. Imagine oneself in the 'dark ages', actually not hard to imagine.

Anyone check out the youtube by Caleb Cain on the alt-right?

https://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/why-your-brain-loves-conspiracy-theories

"I say it to you now, knowing full well that you will agree with me (that is, understand) only if you already agree with me." Stanley Fish

It's funny, libs like you are in constant motion, usually throwing your own feces at the right hoping something sticks. You, yourself have poopooed reality claiming conspiracy crap, and when your media spreads a lie, you gullibly glom onto until the lie morphs just enough so that you don't catch on, and this process usually changes 10 times before the narrative changes, or is dropped altogether.
Think about that for a moment, every time the left gets caught, they simply rearrange the narrative, a sort of sleight of hand, and you just ignore the truth.
Why is that?

https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/why-do-so-many-people-actually-believe-this-about-trump/msg376666/?action=post;quote=376666

https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/clinton-foundation-donations-drop-almost-90/msg369996/?action=post;quote=369996

Quote from: taxed on June 08, 2019, 09:59:08 PM
So, in the past few days, we've had two ex-congresspeople murdered, an ex-mayor, Hillary's brother, and this:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/commerce-official-killed-in-apparent-murder-suicide-dc-police

I'd hate to be Roger Clinton right now.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/08/us/senators-killed-oklahoma-arkansas/index.html

That was two Republican State legislators.  Both were State Senators.  Two different States, and Senates..

Quote from: harry12 on June 09, 2019, 04:47:46 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/08/us/senators-killed-oklahoma-arkansas/index.html

That was two Republican State legislators.  Both were State Senators.  Two different States, and Senates..

Thank you for the correction.

Here's a list:

https://gab.com/NeonRevolt/posts/ZThaNzNzNnZoQ3grZ0NmTDNuVUp4Zz09

Quote from: midcan5 on June 09, 2019, 04:19:27 AM
Too funny.  Roger Clinton?  Huh?  And wasn't George Nader a Trump advisor?  What does any of this have to do with the price of eggs in China? Sorry old joke. Government has replaced witches and devils in modern America. In a sense none of this speculative stuff matters for tomorrow the story changes and when there is no grounding in fact the fiction simply becomes another fiction. Imagine oneself in the 'dark ages', actually not hard to imagine.

Anyone check out the youtube by Caleb Cain on the alt-right?

https://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/why-your-brain-loves-conspiracy-theories

"I say it to you now, knowing full well that you will agree with me (that is, understand) only if you already agree with me." Stanley Fish

Didn't your mamma ever tell you not to lie?