Quote from: Solar on December 31, 2022, 08:39:51 AMAll you have to do is open  your eyes!
They've admitted the Jabb doesn't not stop transmission, does not stop infection, has no effect on the virus, we know 1.7 million Americans are now on disability from the Jabb, and you want evidence?

Wake up kid, they want you dead!

saying that a vaccine does not, with 100% efficiency, stop transmission or infection is not anything surprising. To my knowledge, there is no vaccine that is 100% effective, that's why there is such a push to get as many people vaccinate as possible, not only for COVID but for any dangerous, transmittable virus.  My wife, kids and I all got vaccinated and got one booster. We traveled extensively during COVID because prices were so cheap and we never got infected. Within the last 6 months, we have all had COVID. My daughter got it first, then my son and I and my wife was last.  It seems highly likely that the vaccine and booster wearing off contributed to all of us getting COVID.

Making the jump from "the vaccine is not functionally perfect" (universally known in the medical community) to "the government is trying to kill you with the vaccine" is where you lose me and where I am asking for evidence to support the claim.

Quote from: ZenMode on December 31, 2022, 09:46:40 AMsaying that a vaccine does not, with 100% efficiency, stop transmission or infection is not anything surprising. To my knowledge, there is no vaccine that is 100% effective, that's why there is such a push to get as many people vaccinate as possible, not only for COVID but for any dangerous, transmittable virus.  My wife, kids and I all got vaccinated and got one booster. We traveled extensively during COVID because prices were so cheap and we never got infected. Within the last 6 months, we have all had COVID. My daughter got it first, then my son and I and my wife was last.

Making the jump from "the vaccine is not functionally perfect" (universally known in the medical community) to "the government is trying to kill you with the vaccine" is where you lose me and where I am asking for evidence to support your claim.

Nice attempt at obfuscation.                
 
No one here is so stupid as to not see through your complete BS!

Not one person ever said anything about 100% effectiveness, that number sir, you pulled straight out of your ass!

In Fact! The exact truth is opposite! It is proven 100% that the Jabb does absolutely nothing, out side of making people sick, or dead!

Quote from: Solar on December 31, 2022, 09:52:57 AMNice attempt at obfuscation.                
 
No one here is so stupid as to not see through your complete BS!

Not one person ever said anything about 100% effectiveness, that number sir, you pulled straight out of your ass!

In Fact! The exact truth is opposite! It is proven 100% that the Jabb does absolutely nothing, out side of making people sick, or dead!

You apparently put more weight on the anecdotal comments of random people on Twitter than I do.

Quote from: ZenMode on December 31, 2022, 09:46:40 AMsaying that a vaccine does not, with 100% efficiency, stop transmission or infection is not anything surprising. To my knowledge, there is no vaccine that is 100% effective, that's why there is such a push to get as many people vaccinate as possible, not only for COVID but for any dangerous, transmittable virus.  My wife, kids and I all got vaccinated and got one booster. We traveled extensively during COVID because prices were so cheap and we never got infected. Within the last 6 months, we have all had COVID. My daughter got it first, then my son and I and my wife was last.  It seems highly likely that the vaccine and booster wearing off contributed to all of us getting COVID.

Making the jump from "the vaccine is not functionally perfect" (universally known in the medical community) to "the government is trying to kill you with the vaccine" is where you lose me and where I am asking for evidence to support the claim.

There is an abundance of evidence that the vaccine does harm. From blood clots to death. Do you think the vaccine should be halted until more research can be done on it.

Quote from: ZenMode on December 31, 2022, 10:21:44 AMYou apparently put more weight on the anecdotal comments of random people on Twitter than I do.

Random? She is an expert in her field, as is Dr. Naomi Wolf.
Why is it you only believe leftist propaganda?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1608625401009700865

Quote from: Solar on December 31, 2022, 11:04:36 AMRandom? She is an expert in her field, as is Dr. Naomi Wolf.
Why is it you only believe leftist propaganda?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1608625401009700865

I don't see multiple studies, that showed the effectiveness of the vaccine, as "leftist". Data has repeatedly shown that the vaccine works.

Quote from: ZenMode on December 31, 2022, 12:04:35 PMI don't see multiple studies, that showed the effectiveness of the vaccine, as "leftist". Data has repeatedly shown that the vaccine works.

PROVE IT!!!
VAERS data proves the contrary!
I get it, you stupidly got the Jabb, and refuse to accept you were just another gullible lab rat.
All you libs are in complete denial of all the information proving you were used.

Quote from: ZenMode on December 31, 2022, 12:04:35 PMI don't see multiple studies, that showed the effectiveness of the vaccine, as "leftist". Data has repeatedly shown that the vaccine works.

This is really a simple question, " Do you think the vaccine should be halted until more research can be done on it." Why don't you use the date that shows the vaccine works to answer it. We would sure like to see it.  While you are looking up data that shows it works, here's some to also read.
https://thelibertydaily.com/they-knew-dr-aseem-malhotra-says-who-warned-of-dozens-of-major-adverse-reactions-before-the-jabs-were-rolled-out/

Quotes more people become aware of the massive number of adverse reactions that come from the Covid-19 "vaccines," the powers-that-be tend to claim they are just now coming around to the conclusions that many of us have known for two years. Among those are doctors with the World Health Organization.

Unfortunately for them, it turns out they endorsed a list of adverse reactions BEFORE the jabs were rolled out. As Dr. Aseem Malhotra pointed out, "anything and everything that can go wrong with the heart is on that list from heart attacks, pericarditis, arrhythmias, heart failure and that's what we're seeing."

https://noqreport.com/2022/12/31/dr-joseph-mercola-shocking-lab-investigation-of-covid-vaccines/

QuoteA recent laboratory investigation by The Highwire reveals the only consistent thing about the COVID shots are their inconsistency. There is no quality control. Some appear clear like saline, while others are loaded with contaminants
In August 2021, Japan rejected 1.63 million doses of Moderna's mRNA shot due to contamination. Last year the European Medicines Agency (EMA) also expressed concern over vials that were only 50% to 55% pure
The vials also contain massively inconsistent amounts of polyethylene glycol (PEG). PEG can cause anaphylactic shock in some people. PEG also gets in the way of proper immune response
If you are unfortunate enough to get a vial that is loaded with PEG, your risk of adverse effects such as anaphylactic shock and dysregulated immune response is greater than if you get a vial with lower amounts
According to Dr. Ryan Cole, a pathologist, what looks like microchips or nanotechnology in the liquid are actually stacked cholesterol, sugar and salt crystals, and what has been described as parasites are stellate trikons, found on the bottom of leaves. They're likely a contaminant picked up at some point during the lab investigation

QuoteCole describes the white elastic clots as "an amyloid-type of material" induced by the spike protein, which is actually a glycoprotein. He cites a paper2 from August 2021 by Etheresia Pretorius and her team, in which she describes finding "persistent circulating plasma microclots that are resistant to fibrinolysis" in long-COVID patients and those who have received the COVID jab.

There is a whole category on this forum devoted to the virus and the vaccine. There are countless articles about the dangers from the vaccine, the lack of research, and the thousands of deaths of what were young healthy adults. So, once more, " Do you think the vaccine should be halted until more research can be done on it."

Quote from: Possum on December 31, 2022, 01:14:38 PMThis is really a simple question, " Do you think the vaccine should be halted until more research can be done on it." Why don't you use the date that shows the vaccine works to answer it. We would sure like to see it.  While you are looking up data that shows it works, here's some to also read.
https://thelibertydaily.com/they-knew-dr-aseem-malhotra-says-who-warned-of-dozens-of-major-adverse-reactions-before-the-jabs-were-rolled-out/

https://noqreport.com/2022/12/31/dr-joseph-mercola-shocking-lab-investigation-of-covid-vaccines/
There is a whole category on this forum devoted to the virus and the vaccine. There are countless articles about the dangers from the vaccine, the lack of research, and the thousands of deaths of what were young healthy adults. So, once more, " Do you think the vaccine should be halted until more research can be done on it."

He doesn't want the truth, no lib wants the truth. Ignorance is bliss.

Quote from: Solar on December 31, 2022, 01:29:43 PMHe doesn't want the truth, no lib wants the truth. Ignorance is bliss.

He doesn't care to answer what should be a very easy question. Easy enough for any human being, who can see evidence, who can see both sides, who can see the wonders medicine can do, to know there is something wrong here. Covid did not turn out to be the mass killer we were warned about, hell liberal states had to infect nursing homes to get the count up, anyone with half a brain should know now is the time to start the research that should have been done at the start, before it was handed out to millions. There is no way to convince people like Zen that this vaccine is all about control and not health care, he is too far gone in being brainwashed to ever admit that. But even he should be able to see the evidence and come to the conclusion that if you want to save lives, the vaccine needs to stop, and people need to be held accountable. Everything about this vaccine needs to heard in court.
Your chart nailed it! 

Quote from: Possum on December 31, 2022, 02:17:40 PMHe doesn't care to answer what should be a very easy question. Easy enough for any human being, who can see evidence, who can see both sides, who can see the wonders medicine can do, to know there is something wrong here. Covid did not turn out to be the mass killer we were warned about, hell liberal states had to infect nursing homes to get the count up, anyone with half a brain should know now is the time to start the research that should have been done at the start, before it was handed out to millions. There is no way to convince people like Zen that this vaccine is all about control and not health care, he is too far gone in being brainwashed to ever admit that. But even he should be able to see the evidence and come to the conclusion that if you want to save lives, the vaccine needs to stop, and people need to be held accountable. Everything about this vaccine needs to heard in court.
Your chart nailed it! 

Well said!!

I think the drug companies are in for a world of hurt. They thought they had blanket immunity from all lawsuits, but only if they were honest.
That immunity disappeared nearly immediately the moment Fauci got caught with gain of function and everyone involved stayed silent.

Heads are going to roll!

Quote from: Solar on December 31, 2022, 02:54:00 PMWell said!!

I think the drug companies are in for a world of hurt. They thought they had blanket immunity from all lawsuits, but only if they were honest.
That immunity disappeared nearly immediately the moment Fauci got caught with gain of function and everyone involved stayed silent.

Heads are going to roll!

They need to roll. As of now we have no idea how bad the vaccines are. Miscarriages are up, people who want to get pregnant are having a harder time, the list keeps going and we do not know, or even have an idea where that list will end. But hot damn they told us to wear masks. Our government knows whats best.       

Quote from: Possum on December 31, 2022, 03:23:45 PMThey need to roll. As of now we have no idea how bad the vaccines are. Miscarriages are up, people who want to get pregnant are having a harder time, the list keeps going and we do not know, or even have an idea where that list will end. But hot damn they told us to wear masks. Our government knows whats best.     

They must suffer!

Why is it no one is talking about the obvious, that vaccines do not work on Corona viruses anyway.  Covid, Flu, and the Common Cold are all Corona.
Evil, Pure Evil!!!

Quote from: ZenMode on December 31, 2022, 12:04:35 PMI don't see multiple studies, that showed the effectiveness of the vaccine, as "leftist". Data has repeatedly shown that the vaccine works.

How about a doctor explaining how it works, will that suffice?


https://twitter.com/NewsNancy9/status/1609335372823011330