Where does the Tea Party go from here?

Started by Dan, October 28, 2010, 07:17:06 AM

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Dan

The Tea Party has already made a big impact on the Republican Party. That much is already fact. It has made the party more fiscally conservative and probably a little less focused on being socially conservative and I believe this will broaden it's appeal especially in places like the west and northeast.

The Tea Party will likely have a big impact on the national elections too as the Tea Party is given much of the credit for the turnout advantage the Republicans will enjoy this election cycle and much of their renewed enthusiasm too.

And the Tea Party will likely have a bigger impact on the next legislative cycle than anyone is anticipating. The new guys will make common cause with guys like Jim DeMint and Tom Coburn and David Vitter in the Senate and guys like Ryan and Cantor in the House to form a formidable bloc of within the Republican caucuss. If things go according to plan then they will be able to keep the Republicans focused on moves to restore fiscal sanity in DC. There is already talk of going after Republican incumbants like Snowe, Luger and Hatch in the 2012 election cycle if they don't change their ways so they might even be able to intimidate some establishment guys into acting like conservatives for a change.

But the real question to me is where do we go from here. Now predicting what a decenttralized grass roots movement will do is like herding cats. So I won't even try to say I know what will happen. But I will say what I hope will happen and what I think is very achievable. I would like to see the tea party take their energy and passion and mission of restoring fiscal sanity to local government. City, county and even school board races won by Tea Party advocates could help this country just as much as the national efforts. Think of all the fraud and waste and graft that happens at the local level. Think of all the mismanagment that could benefit from greater transparency, accountability and focus on efficiency. To me it's a logical next step. But then again it just might be wishful thinking on my part too. Let me know what you think.
If you believe big government is the solution then you are a liberal. If you believe big government is the problem then you are a conservative.

wally

The future of The Tea Party Movement is really going to be determined by what our elected Leaders do next!  The Tea Party is a loosely associated network of conservative Americans who share common views centered around our being Taxed Enough Already and a desire for a smaller, less intrusive Federal Government (leaving more to the states and local governments and less to the overbloated bureauacracy which is our Federal Government).  The Tea Party is not a political party.  It's a grass roots political movement!   Again, what becomes of this movement wiil be determined by what is done by oure elected officials after the midterm; The ball's in their court!

I guess I can't honestly see the Tea Party dying off before 2012, unless Obama totally reversed his actions and CHANGED his agenda to support lower taxes, limited government and preserving, protecting and defending our Constitution, as his oath requires of him.  I think we'd have a better chance of seeing pigs fly, though; so the Tea Party Movement is destined to be a major force in the next election of a new POTUS!
The press is our chief ideological weapon.
~ Nikita Khrushchev

Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.

~Ronald Reagan

crepe05

Where does the Tea Party go from here?  To the polls on November 2, 2010.  First things first.

wally

The press is our chief ideological weapon.
~ Nikita Khrushchev

Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.

~Ronald Reagan

Pepe

If you read deep enough you will ferret out the fact that both Parties, the Neo-Marxists and the National Socialists are both deeply concerned over the question posed by the top post.

Will those newly elected with the help and financial support of the Tea parties have sufficient strength and cohesion to force one or both Parties to hold the line on spending and taxes?

Does the Tea Party Movement have sufficient support Nationwide to morph into a legitimate Third Party and become a threat to one or both of the establishment? This is the "main" question under review by both Parties.

How deep is the support of the Tea Movement and what is the measurement of anger of the general populace at the Incumbents and the Imperial Government in DC?

What steps can the Duopoly take to obstruct, delay and deny a Third Party to the Ballot Box in all 50 States?


wally

Aren't the Neo-Marxists and National Socialist pretty much the same thing? 

They certainly share a common belief that the nation ought to be ruled by Elite Oligarchs, who know best what  the people  their subjects really want and what  the people  their subjects really need!

Marxist and Socialist are have become merely synonyms for Communists!  (I think one could argue that Stalin's version of Communism, as well as Mao's, Ho CHi Mihn's. Fidel Castor and Kim Jung Il's are virtullay National Socialism in the way the state ruthlessly control(led) their people!)
The press is our chief ideological weapon.
~ Nikita Khrushchev

Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.

~Ronald Reagan

AmericanFlyer

The Tea Party needs to launch a massive voter fraud investigation after next Tuesday, when the Communist Democrats steal several elections and retain control of the House and Senate, and win other elections they shouldn't have won.

Dan

Quote from: wally on October 28, 2010, 07:30:09 AM
I guess I can't honestly see the Tea Party dying off before 2012, unless Obama totally reversed his actions and CHANGED his agenda to support lower taxes, limited government and preserving, protecting and defending our Constitution, as his oath requires of him.  I think we'd have a better chance of seeing pigs fly, though; so the Tea Party Movement is destined to be a major force in the next election of a new POTUS!

I agree. It's a spontaneous protest to Obama's overreach. But if could outlive Obama if the mission becomes one of fiscal discipline and accountability. But I would also like you to answer my question. Could you see the local Tea Party groups, at least some of them, morphing into organizations that also go after local issues within their communities? That could probably be a little more apolitical too.
If you believe big government is the solution then you are a liberal. If you believe big government is the problem then you are a conservative.

taxed

I think the Tea Party movement will be a new check and balance to the politicians.  It is driven by the passion for the country, so I think it will always churn and cleanse itself of imposters.  It will have staying power because everyone will tie it to the oncoming onslaught.
#PureBlood #TrumpWon

Dan

Quote from: Pepe on October 28, 2010, 08:50:19 AMDoes the Tea Party Movement have sufficient support Nationwide to morph into a legitimate Third Party and become a threat to one or both of the establishment? This is the "main" question under review by both Parties.

It's a question of numbers and will. The old guard on the conservative wing is people like DeMint, Coburn and Vitter. The new blood will likely be Miller, Buck, Toomey, Rubio, Paul, Lee and probably a few more I am missing. I could easily see these guys with a solid core of 14-16 Senators and probably another 10-12 that will float in and out on specific issues. With that sort of cohesion and common cause I think they could be a force. Basically McConnell won't be able to get anything through without these guys.

Also refer to my point about how they are already targeting Snowe, Luger and Hatch. If we are able to intimidate some establishment guys into acting like conservatives and voting like conservatives for the sake of self preservation then that will be an obvious force multiplier.  ;)
If you believe big government is the solution then you are a liberal. If you believe big government is the problem then you are a conservative.

Dan

Quote from: AmericanFlyer on October 28, 2010, 09:50:30 AM
The Tea Party needs to launch a massive voter fraud investigation after next Tuesday, when the Communist Democrats steal several elections and retain control of the House and Senate, and win other elections they shouldn't have won.

I agree. There need to be LOTS of investigations starting on November 3. And if the justice department won't do it's job then the state attorney generals can do it for them. ;)
If you believe big government is the solution then you are a liberal. If you believe big government is the problem then you are a conservative.

Dan

Quote from: taxed on October 28, 2010, 10:47:00 AM
I think the Tea Party movement will be a new check and balance to the politicians.  It is driven by the passion for the country, so I think it will always churn and cleanse itself of imposters.  It will have staying power because everyone will tie it to the oncoming onslaught.

Do you see it having an impact on local politics or do you think it will keep it's focus exclusively on national politics?
If you believe big government is the solution then you are a liberal. If you believe big government is the problem then you are a conservative.

taxed

Quote from: Dan on October 28, 2010, 11:31:18 AM
Do you see it having an impact on local politics or do you think it will keep it's focus exclusively on national politics?

I think both. I think the people participating in it are engaged in local politics, by default.
#PureBlood #TrumpWon

wally

Quote from: AmericanFlyer on October 28, 2010, 09:50:30 AM
The Tea Party needs to launch a massive voter fraud investigation after next Tuesday, when the Communist Democrats steal several elections and retain control of the House and Senate, and win other elections they shouldn't have won.
I'm thinking that the new majority in The House of Representatives will begin investigations into this and many other Democrat "Dirty Tricks", along with Public Hearings exposingf just what the former majority party has been doing in the darkness of Nancy Pelosi's reign of terror!
The press is our chief ideological weapon.
~ Nikita Khrushchev

Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.

~Ronald Reagan

Dan

Quote from: wally on October 28, 2010, 01:36:36 PM
I'm thinking that the new majority in The House of Representatives will begin investigations into this and many other Democrat "Dirty Tricks", along with Public Hearings exposingf just what the former majority party has been doing in the darkness of Nancy Pelosi's reign of terror!

You will learn to love the name "Daryl Issa".  ;D
If you believe big government is the solution then you are a liberal. If you believe big government is the problem then you are a conservative.