What We Don't Know if Donald Trump Becomes President
But we have a good idea which way he leans and it isn't pretty...

If he wins the presidency, we don't know if Donald Trump would crush domestic dissent by rolling tanks over American citizens. 

We don't know if he would actually create the junta-like deportation force that he's promised. 

We don't know if he would hand all of our secrets to the Russian government in exchange for the right to develop condos in St. Petersburg.

We don't know if he would let nukes fly because he could. 

We don't know if he would also occupy the role of John Barron, White House press secretary. 

We don't know if he'd end-run the First Amendment's freedom-of-religion clause by banning travel to the U.S. from particular regions of the world. 

- See more at: http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/donald-trump-president-american-law#sthash.qsZOmtZA.dpuf

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But I should vote for Trump because he has an R after his name? 

Trump the RINO.

Quote from: walkstall on September 20, 2016, 06:45:13 AM
Trump the RINO.

That's for sure. I'm glad I am not a republican.

Quote from: tac on September 20, 2016, 06:54:25 AM
That's for sure. I'm glad I am not a republican.

Vote for the Statesman!

Quote from: tac on September 20, 2016, 06:39:19 AM
What We Don't Know if Donald Trump Becomes President
But we have a good idea which way he leans and it isn't pretty...

If he wins the presidency, we don't know if Donald Trump would crush domestic dissent by rolling tanks over American citizens. 

We don't know if he would actually create the junta-like deportation force that he's promised. 

We don't know if he would hand all of our secrets to the Russian government in exchange for the right to develop condos in St. Petersburg.

We don't know if he would let nukes fly because he could. 

We don't know if he would also occupy the role of John Barron, White House press secretary. 

We don't know if he'd end-run the First Amendment's freedom-of-religion clause by banning travel to the U.S. from particular regions of the world. 

- See more at: http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/donald-trump-president-american-law#sthash.qsZOmtZA.dpuf

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But I should vote for Trump because he has an R after his name? 

We do know we will not have a conservative in the white house.

Quote from: s3779m on September 20, 2016, 07:32:30 AM
We do know we will not have a conservative in the white house.

Regardless of who wins.

Quote from: tac on September 20, 2016, 07:45:23 AM
Regardless of who wins.

Winning is one thing.  Winning by a huge margin gives one a "mandate", stamp-of-approval for every statement and policy they espouse.

After all the words of division and harsh political rhetoric, we know the division we have today, though it may be slightly different, morphing into something more disgusting - division is here to stay.  "WHY" I ask, are the Conservatives the "default" fall-guys for every ill?

We know the next president will not be interested in uniting the nation, under themselves, or God.

Quote from: tac on September 20, 2016, 06:39:19 AM
If he wins the presidency, we don't know if Donald Trump would crush domestic dissent by rolling tanks over American citizens.

He let Ted Cruz speak at his convention even though Cruz hates him and refused to endorse him.  What has he done that give you reason to think he's against free speech?

Quote from: tac on September 20, 2016, 06:39:19 AM
We don't know if he would hand all of our secrets to the Russian government in exchange for the right to develop condos in St. Petersburg.

Good grief.  How would that make America great again?  Have you forgotten who he's running against or her track record on handling government secrets??

Quote from: tac on September 20, 2016, 06:39:19 AM
We don't know if he would let nukes fly because he could. 

That's exactly the same kind of insult that was hurled at Ronald Reagan, the cowboy that would surely indiscriminately bomb everybody.  Sad, because if ever there was a President that wanted to remove the scourge of nuclear war it was Reagan.

Quote from: tac on September 20, 2016, 06:39:19 AM
But I should vote for Trump because he has an R after his name?

Grief no.  Vote for him because the alternative is a totally amoral idiot that will get us all killed.

Well said  Ken. Its the  political class from both parties who have gotten us  trillions  in debt and in endless wars  in the  middle east yet most  here seem to want  more  of the same. I dont.

Quote from: ldub23 on September 20, 2016, 03:56:22 PM
Well said  Ken. Its the  political class from both parties who have gotten us  trillions  in debt and in endless wars  in the  middle east yet most  here seem to want  more  of the same. I dont.

Excellent point about the debt. Here
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/11/king-of-debt-donald-trump-now-is-the-time-to-borrow.html
I guess 22 trillion in debt ain't enough for the trumpster. 

Quote from: ldub23 on September 20, 2016, 03:56:22 PM
Well said  Ken. Its the  political class from both parties who have gotten us  trillions  in debt and in endless wars  in the  middle east yet most  here seem to want  more  of the same. I dont.

Here's more of the same..what say you...?

http://therightscoop.com/uh-oh-report-says-trump-used-charitable-funds-to-settle-business-disputes/

Quote from: KenJackson on September 20, 2016, 01:41:47 PM
He let Ted Cruz speak at his convention even though Cruz hates him and refused to endorse him.  What has he done that give you reason to think he's against free speech?
Good grief.  How would that make America great again?  Have you forgotten who he's running against or her track record on handling government secrets??
That's exactly the same kind of insult that was hurled at Ronald Reagan, the cowboy that would surely indiscriminately bomb everybody.  Sad, because if ever there was a President that wanted to remove the scourge of nuclear war it was Reagan.
Grief no.  Vote for him because the alternative is a totally amoral idiot that will get us all killed.

Watch and listen to a true Statesman.

http://therightscoop.com/awesome-ted-cruz-blasts-obamas-un-speech/

Quote from: KenJackson on September 20, 2016, 01:41:47 PM
He let Ted Cruz speak at his convention even though Cruz hates him and refused to endorse him.

He let Ted speak? Since when did Trump set the rules for the RNC?

QuoteWhat has he done that give you reason to think he's against free speech?

So far he's banned certain urinalists and news outlets from his speeches, threatened to sue 'The New York Times' for "Irresponsible Intent"
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/donald-trump-threatens-sue-new-929907

QuoteGood grief.  How would that make America great again?  Have you forgotten who he's running against or her track record on handling government secrets??
That's exactly the same kind of insult that was hurled at Ronald Reagan, the cowboy that would surely indiscriminately bomb everybody.  Sad, because if ever there was a President that wanted to remove the scourge of nuclear war it was Reagan.

Reagan didn't ask why we can't use nukes. How is it Trump isn't smart enough to know that all weaponry is available, regardless?

QuoteGrief no.  Vote for him because the alternative is a totally amoral idiot that will get us all killed.

If a pedophile was asking for donations to open a home for orphans, are you obligated to support him because it may benefit the children?
Point is, Conservatives do not put their values aside out of fear of the "Maybe, or What If".

You see, we already know how the GOP will act based on everything they gave the Marxist over the last 8 years, so why would you even think that having a lying lib in the GOP is somehow a guarantee it won't be worse?

Quote from: Solar on September 20, 2016, 06:37:24 PM
He let Ted speak? Since when did Trump set the rules for the RNC?

Trump is the party's nominee.  As such, he got to decide who spoke at his convention.

Quote from: Solar on September 20, 2016, 06:37:24 PM
So far he's banned certain urinalists and news outlets from his speeches, threatened to sue 'The New York Times' for "Irresponsible Intent"
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/donald-trump-threatens-sue-new-929907

He has every right to ban sleazy journalists from his event.  That's not a restriction on free speech.

This is a long video in which Stefan Molyneux walks through what Trump said and then what the sleazy media reported.  You don't have to watch the whole thing.  Just a few minutes shows that the media really IS irresponsible as Trump claimed.
Even More Untruth About Donald Trump

Quote from: tac on September 20, 2016, 06:39:19 AM
What We Don't Know if Donald Trump Becomes President
But we have a good idea which way he leans and it isn't pretty...

If he wins the presidency, we don't know if Donald Trump would crush domestic dissent by rolling tanks over American citizens. 

We don't know if he would actually create the junta-like deportation force that he's promised. 

We don't know if he would hand all of our secrets to the Russian government in exchange for the right to develop condos in St. Petersburg.

We don't know if he would let nukes fly because he could. 

We don't know if he would also occupy the role of John Barron, White House press secretary. 

We don't know if he'd end-run the First Amendment's freedom-of-religion clause by banning travel to the U.S. from particular regions of the world. 

- See more at: http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/donald-trump-president-american-law#sthash.qsZOmtZA.dpuf

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But I should vote for Trump because he has an R after his name? 

Roll Call was fine with shutting off travel to Cuba. Hypocrisy, anyone?

As for their points about Trump, we also don't know if he is Hillary's way of draining votes to help push her diseased and debilitated self into office. We don't know if Trump's even a Republican --- a higher-dollar version of that clown running on the Klan ticket, I forget the loser's name. The one who had plastic surgery to endear himself to fellow skinheads. The one endorsing Trump.

We don't know Trump WON'T be a racist. We'd be damned fools if we bet against it, based on the bilge he's spewed thus far.