What do you consider conservative to you?

Started by justme21, April 01, 2016, 07:14:47 PM

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justme21

I'm just wondering. I've been told I'm a true conservative. I thought true conservatives have 100% conservative beliefs. I am a bisexual guy so I do believe in marriage equality. But I'm also prolife like 100%!!! to an extent where many may not relate to like I don't even like abortion in the case of life. My beliefs are similar to Malta's. I don't believe in a penalty for the situation of a life threatening situation. But I don't want it legal. I believe in suicide being a personal choice. And I am also in between on religious rights I side more with the businesses though. I am against raising a minimum wage believe in deporting illegal aliens and I think we should ban all immigrants until isis is figured out from anywhere. Not just muslims or anything. I am a big believer in the death penalty and tough drug sentences and banning marijuana. But I think welfare should exist just drug test them and charge them if they fail. I am about like 75% conservative on the issues not like 100% I know like my whole family is conservative like right of me. I also have a lot of libertarian beliefs as well. I thought that was true conservatism I thought I was moderately conservative. I vote for the most conservative always too but have less conservative beliefs at the same time yet I get called right wing. What's conservative to you?

Solar

Conservatism is a way of life, not an political ideology.
Keeping your word, doing the right thing when no one is looking, knowing and practicing right and wrong, understanding that not everything in life is political, and knowing when you're falling for the Marxist tactics of divide and conquer.

Not a lot of what you posted defines you as Conservative, rather, just not a leftist.
Think long and hard on what I wrote and then feel free to ask questions.
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justme21

Quote from: Solar on April 01, 2016, 07:35:10 PM
Conservatism is a way of life, not an political ideology.
Keeping your word, doing the right thing when no one is looking, knowing and practicing right and wrong, understanding that not everything in life is political, and knowing when you're falling for the Marxist tactics of divide and conquer.

Not a lot of what you posted defines you as Conservative, rather, just not a leftist.
Think long and hard on what I wrote and then feel free to ask questions.

Outside of politics I'm also religious. But honestly didn't get to post all of my beliefs there. Mainly though the ones I disagree on with conservative politics. Abortion and gay marriage and the right to end one's life tend to be the things I agree with on many conservatives other than that I normally don't. I've always seen myself as more center I am the centrist of my own family as well or liberal in comparison.

justme21

I didn't really have anything to debate about though...

justme21

I am also pro guns and don't like unions. I'm for obamacare if theres a better idea I'm open to it. I'm for lower taxes as much as possible

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Quote from: justme21 on April 02, 2016, 10:40:03 AM
I didn't really have anything to debate about though...

Well I'm glad we cleared that up.
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Solar

Quote from: justme21 on April 02, 2016, 10:46:33 AM
I am also pro guns and don't like unions. I'm for obamacare if theres a better idea I'm open to it. I'm for lower taxes as much as possible
You're young, but I think you're on the Right track.

Commiecare was designed by Marxist as a power grab over liberties.
The more you focus on freedom and personal liberty, the more you'll see just how much of a cancer the left is on this great nation.
So is the Establishment that stole the GOP.
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Quote from: justme21 on April 02, 2016, 10:46:33 AM
I am also pro guns and don't like unions. I'm for obamacare if theres a better idea I'm open to it. I'm for lower taxes as much as possible

The one thing about liberals is they will never tell you what their real agenda is as it would be rejected outright. They will do everything they can to disguise the facts and real impact on individuals. Case in point, "The Affordable Care Act". There is nothing affordable about it. BTW, have you seen the $2,500 savings on your health insurance premiums as Obama promised you?
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Charliemyboy

Quote from: supsalemgr on April 02, 2016, 11:08:13 AM
The one thing about liberals is they will never tell you what their real agenda is as it would be rejected outright. They will do everything they can to disguise the facts and real impact on individuals. Case in point, "The Affordable Care Act". There is nothing affordable about it. BTW, have you seen the $2,500 savings on your health insurance premiums as Obama promised you?

Obamacare is not a health care system.  It is Obama's method of income redistribution.

supsalemgr

Quote from: Charliemyboy on April 02, 2016, 11:21:54 AM
Obamacare is not a health care system.  It is Obama's method of income redistribution.

Exactly, and desire to control the folks.
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Dori

Quote from: justme21 on April 02, 2016, 10:46:33 AM
I am also pro guns and don't like unions. I'm for obamacare if theres a better idea I'm open to it. I'm for lower taxes as much as possible

Obamacare isn't about healthcare.  It's about control over a large part of our economic system.  The goal of Obamacare is to eventually get to a one payer system, putting insurance companies out of business, and where the whole medical profession is under the control and dictates of government.  Government has already taken over student loans.  How long before they decide who can and can't be a doctor or nurse or tell them where they have to work?  That's communism 101.  Obamacare is just one of the many Marxist liberal programs headed down that slippery slope to a dictatorship and one party rule. 

The danger to America is not Barack Obama but the citizens capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.

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Quote from: Charliemyboy on April 02, 2016, 11:21:54 AM
Obamacare is not a health care system.  It is Obama's method of income redistribution.

A swath of urbanites just wanted the money.  The 'slave reparation' money. 

You know that bunch couldn't give a rat's petunia-pot about affordable healthcare.  That's why they're still not signed-up.  They wanted a $5,000.00 check.

 

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Quote from: Dori on April 02, 2016, 11:57:52 AM
Obamacare isn't about healthcare.  It's about control over a large part of our economic system.  The goal of Obamacare is to eventually get to a one payer system, putting insurance companies out of business, and where the whole medical profession is under the control and dictates of government.  Government has already taken over student loans.  How long before they decide who can and can't be a doctor or nurse or tell them where they have to work?  That's communism 101.  Obamacare is just one of the many Marxist liberal programs headed down that slippery slope to a dictatorship and one party rule.

I am fine with social programs I just think they're run awfully. And I think it's a bit sad that if you kill someone you can live off a welfare that takes care of you for the rest of your life and live better than many in poverty. They get lifetime welfare for breaking the law yet the welfare for poor laws abiding citizens is meant to hold them down and previously many people couldn't get any healthcare. But our prisoners have healthcare. I think the answer is to eradicate the problem that costs tax payers so much. That's why I believe in the death penalty and a limit on time that appeals can take. I think after a person is sentence the death penalty they should be executed within 3 years in the most least expensive manner and the benefits prisons have now should be minimized as much as possible I don't think anyone should
pay for someone else's crime. I think if prisoners have access to healthcare so should all law abiding Americans. And on the topic of social programs I think there should be more incentives to actually uplift the poor not hold them down. I think liberals policies hold the poor down and hurt them in the long run. Not actually encouraging the poor to enhance skills to extend benefits etc... I think the conservative ideology is better though than liberal because at least the policies don't hurt I don't think it helps either though.