Quote from: supsalemgr on December 21, 2014, 08:30:34 AM
Does OR still not let folks fuel their own Vehicles? I love libs who do not think the citizens are smart enough to get out of bed.

No you can not put gas into your vehicles.  BUT you can put diesel in your vehicles.    Why I am not sure on the diesel.  I think it has something to do with over the road truck driver.  I have been told by more than one attendant that I can put diesel in my rig but I can not put gas in it. 

Quote from: european101 on December 21, 2014, 04:44:54 AM
Aha I see. Rules, standards, courage, integrity. The problem is that each political group has Its own view on what moral rules and standards are. Each political group see what you called moral decay from Its own perspective. Each individual has Its own view on what for him is moral decay.
We consider muslims as barbaric but they consider us as barbaric. Simple.

     That position is referred to in these circles as "moral relativism," a belief that morality is kind of like the shirt I put on in the morning. I choose the one that fits, fits in, suits the temperature and weather, and feels right on that day. 
       The reference to standards reflects a belief is what is called "cultural relativism." That is the belief that any or all cultures not only arise appropriately to suit populations, but if a person can convince himself that one is a good as another, a Universalist view, the he has no problem dropping his own culture, chameleon like, and going with the flow. Conservatives by and large have rejected that outlook.
        Oh, I absolutely believe Europe and America have been moving in the wrong direction. So do a lot of other people. We are seeing the century pendulum swing back towards the conservative
approach to life. The left is not happy about it.

Quote from: european101 on December 18, 2014, 07:50:38 AM
What do you suggest what EU should do to improve our economic situation? We have 26 mio. of unemployed people an weak economic growth.

New president of European commison says we will start a 300 billion infrastructre program. But is this the right way? 

I'd rather see lower taxes for private companies and people. That would attract foreign investments and strengthen economic growth.

Okay, I feel that this is the 600 lb gorilla sitting the middle of the room that nobody wants to talk about. Everybody has been dancing around the edges, but I'm going to lay it on the line.

Stop depending on the American taxpayer to subsidize your socialist economies!

Darth

Quote from: red_dirt on December 21, 2014, 09:14:15 AM
     That position is referred to in these circles as "moral relativism," a belief that morality is kind of like the shirt I put on in the morning. I choose the one that fits, fits in, suits the temperature and weather, and feels right on that day. 
       The reference to standards reflects a belief is what is called "cultural relativism." That is the belief that any or all cultures not only arise appropriately to suit populations, but if a person can convince himself that one is a good as another, a Universalist view, the he has no problem dropping his own culture, chameleon like, and going with the flow. Conservatives by and large have rejected that outlook.
        Oh, I absolutely believe Europe and America have been moving in the wrong direction. So do a lot of other people. We are seeing the century pendulum swing back towards the conservative
approach to life. The left is not happy about it.

You can call it moral relativism or anykind of relativism. The fact is we live in liberty and in liberty each indivdual has the right to its own opinion what for him is moral and what it isn't.

Immoral things, immoral life has been happening since ancient times. And it will happen in the future. Expecting the West will stop to do what you call moral decay is unrealistic. Becouse we are moral decay and becouse you won't ever find individual who would be morally perfect.   

Quote from: european101 on December 21, 2014, 10:11:40 AM
You can call it moral relativism or anykind of relativism. The fact is we live in liberty and in liberty each indivdual has the right to its own opinion what for him is moral and what it isn't.

     This is where we agree to disagree.  The debate really won't lead anywhere and Darth Fife is right: We are dancing around the issue. Your concerns should be aside from anything I or anyone else should be preaching about morality.
      I think the question is, from a European, "What do you Americans feel we should do?"
      That is a perfectly honest question.
      You know, Washington is trying to push a North American Union in much the same way
The European Union has been formed.  If you know Canada, and you know Brazil, you kind of have to wonder.
       The political development I see gaining steam in Europe are the Nationalist Fronts. 
       These, too, are critical times for the American left wing. If you have been reading the
American news, there is something of a crime wave here, but not your usual criminals.
More like a war. Obama has been accused of wanting to start a civil war.