My only comment is that the War of Independence was, indeed, fought
against England and English troops, but the real war was against the
central authority of European monarchy and the State Church who had
residence in England and whose colony of "heretics" was on the rise.
       
        Charlatans would like to have us think of Independence as a War
with England; it was, in fact, a total rebellion and victory over the
central authority, the 17th century version of Global Domination,
the 16th Century edition of religious genocide.

        It is well stated in Thomas Paine's "Common Sense."
       
          By painting this as a war with England, the deposed tyrants are
able to focus our attention and our resentment on Mother Europe,
Mother England, our culture and our spirit, and, away from the true
enemy, which is the willful and calculated suppression of free people.

              God Bless America. God Save the Queen!
              America, Land of the Free, Home of the Brave.
              Columbia, Gem of the Ocean. Long may she reign!

       At the time of 1776, he grip of those forces who worked in tandem to control
the wealth of  both Europe and the New World, had not yet been cemented. Likely
those forces  would prefer nothing better than to re-establish control of the
hemisphere. Some among us would  delight in delivering us to the forces of
global power, should we be slothful enough to permit it.

        The Industrial Revolution, access to resources, inventiveness and technology
created the wealth that allowed America to remain free and independent. Central
banking, Jesuit hogwash, hidden tyranny, and the rise of evil political schemes
such as Communism, Islam, and Nazism all conspire to capture North America,
like so many chess pieces on a board.

         South and Central America are already in tow. They are eager to extend the reach. The  absolute worst of it is the complete ignorance of the American people. The combination  of domestic, home grown ignorance  with the cultivated feigned ignorance of co-conspirators, formally known as the liberals, the Democratic political machine,  or the sympathizers, to name three, presents a formidable challenge.

         Are we able to see, yet, how capturing the White House is tantamount to
turning a pawn into a Queen?

Wake up, America, you are being had.

         Senator Cruz for President, 2016!

Hm........................red-dirt, not so sure matters are as frantic as you assert!!!
We rebelled against the British Crown for economic reasons (taxation) as we
had no say in either Commons or Lords; as Burke astutely observed. Bye the
way, neither the Jesuits nor Islam played a role in the American Revolution.

It may have been as simple as deciding not to be anybody's colony, and a country instead.

Call me crazy.

That AMC TV show was awesome, in showing the iconic, almost biblical stories of the revolution........in terms and pictures that could be us.

Quote from: Walter Josh on August 13, 2014, 09:33:09 PM
Hm........................red-dirt, not so sure matters are as frantic as you assert!!!
We rebelled against the British Crown for economic reasons (taxation) as we
had no say in either Commons or Lords; as Burke astutely observed. Bye the
way, neither the Jesuits nor Islam played a role in the American Revolution.

     The Plymouth Bay Colony, near Salem, was a popular destination for, among others,
people seeking to escape persecution in England and Europe by enforcers sworn to
eradicate the heretical religion of Protestantism, in the service of royalty and the State Church.  Chief among these enforcement  contractor was Loyola's Society of Jesus., founded 1530, but there were several more.
     
In this way, the Jesuit army was directly connected to both the development of the colonies, the War of Independence,  and, very important to us, the framing of the U. S. Constitution.  The connection is in the form of religious persecution, well established
as history.

        Two very good resources that contribute to understanding of events shaping early
America and the ongoing discussions of economics, sovereignty, and world order are
Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations" and Peter Marshall's "The Light and the Glory."

      ( I know of no connection of Islam to early America, other than extensive writings and quotes from America's principle founders and observers over the year which echo the sentiments of European military,  political, and religious leaders, including many a Pope, that Islam is a very dangerous, conquest oriented, political ideology which free Western civilization absolutely must keep at a distance or pay the consequences.
            Islam is cited in my post as a dangerous political ideology in the same vein as communism and nazism.)

         Yes, we went to war with England in order to achieve independence. Still, it
is important to recognize the important factors that distinguish American independence
from the usual breaking away of a colony from the mother ship, as, say, Aruba or Jamaica. Not only did the victors establish American sovereignty economically and politically, but they created a document that assured freedom from the tyranny that had marked Europe for centuries, unraveling with the French Revolution.    That is, the United States Constitution.

        Walter, my friend, passionate I may be, but I guarantee, but frantic is not something I need assurance to refrain from.
         My current comment to anyone I am fortunate enough to gain the ear of, if only briefly, is to Google the item, "Has America become a lawless nation?" 

       

       

I grasped  "Senator Cruz for President, 2016!" The rest not so much. I'm a bumper sticker kind of gal.

Quote from: red_dirt on August 14, 2014, 07:01:39 AM
     The Plymouth Bay Colony, near Salem, was a popular destination for, among others,
people seeking to escape persecution in England and Europe by enforcers sworn to
eradicate the heretical religion of Protestantism, in the service of royalty and the State Church.  Chief among these enforcement  contractor was Loyola's Society of Jesus., founded 1530, but there were several more.
     
In this way, the Jesuit army was directly connected to both the development of the colonies, the War of Independence,  and, very important to us, the framing of the U. S. Constitution.  The connection is in the form of religious persecution, well established
as history.

        Two very good resources that contribute to understanding of events shaping early
America and the ongoing discussions of economics, sovereignty, and world order are
Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations" and Peter Marshall's "The Light and the Glory."

      ( I know of no connection of Islam to early America, other than extensive writings and quotes from America's principle founders and observers over the year which echo the sentiments of European military,  political, and religious leaders, including many a Pope, that Islam is a very dangerous, conquest oriented, political ideology which free Western civilization absolutely must keep at a distance or pay the consequences.
            Islam is cited in my post as a dangerous political ideology in the same vein as communism and nazism.)

         Yes, we went to war with England in order to achieve independence. Still, it
is important to recognize the important factors that distinguish American independence
from the usual breaking away of a colony from the mother ship, as, say, Aruba or Jamaica. Not only did the victors establish American sovereignty economically and politically, but they created a document that assured freedom from the tyranny that had marked Europe for centuries, unraveling with the French Revolution.    That is, the United States Constitution.

        Walter, my friend, passionate I may be, but I guarantee, but frantic is not something I need assurance to refrain from.
         My current comment to anyone I am fortunate enough to gain the ear of, if only briefly, is to Google the item, "Has America become a lawless nation?" 

       

     

red-dirt, fair enough and indeed you are passionate; a positive attribute.
Yet a quibble over the role of the Jesuits. Agreed, your timeline is correct.
However the Jesuits were an instrument of power for the Spanish Habsburg Monarchs
who smuggled then into England post-Reformation to foment rebellion and subvert the
English Crown, making them anathema to the English people until the 20th century.
So how did they become a catalyst for our Revolution???????????????

Quote from: Walter Josh on August 14, 2014, 10:39:56 AM


   However the Jesuits were an instrument of power for the Spanish Habsburg Monarchs
who smuggled then into England post-Reformation to foment rebellion and subvert the
English Crown, making them anathema to the English people until the 20th century.
So how did they become a catalyst for our Revolution???????????????

      Through ongoing persecution of Protestants, especially Huguenots, Calvinists, in France.
The Plymouth Bay Colony, Jamestown, and many other towns and  villages in early America
were settled by Protestant refugees.

1521    Martin Luther proclaims documents of Reformation.
1525    John Calvin led Protestant Reformation in France and Switzerland.
1534        Jesuit order  founded on a hilltop outside Paris called Montmartre.
1535    Edict banning all heretics in France. First refugees leave France.

Reference: Saint Bartholemew's Day Massacre.
St Bartholemew's Day massacre of Protestants in Paris, 1572. About 20,000 Huguenots were killed, on the orders of the Queen Mother, a catholic who feared the influence of Protestants over her young son, the king.
http://www.theotherside.co.uk/tm-heritage/background/refugees-protestant.htm